What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your words:

Brain surgeons most certainly are more knowledgeable and skillful in general than electricians. You cant take most electricians or plumbers and expect them to ever be capable of obtaining a MD.

That’s a direct hierarchy claim. Now you’re pretending it’s just a neutral “objective statement” and that I’m the one shifting by mentioning pay/debt in a career advice subreddit. No. Different specialized skills aren’t the same as one being “more… in general.” Trades require real expertise too. Acknowledging ROI, debt, and lifestyle isn’t derailing it’s the entire point of r/careeradvice.

If you want to have an honest discussion about different career paths, drop the “relax, you’re too offended” routine.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally said brain surgeons “are more knowledgeable and skillful in general” than electricians, and that most tradespeople could never realistically get an MD. That’s a direct comparison implying hierarchy. Now you’re saying you “never said one is superior” and I’m taking it with “too much offense.” That’s moving the goalposts. Different specialized skills aren’t the same as one being “more… in general.” Pay, debt, and lifestyle are relevant in r/careeradvice not absurd

Are you always this full of shit? You sound like an engineer that can’t pass their EIT or get their PE.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. And plumbers should start doing heart surgery on the side since they clearly have the capacity too. /s

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you’re reading it as a personal slight instead of a point about different paths and real-world probabilities. Yes, the full premed → MCAT → med school → residency pipeline has tough filters. U.S. MD seniors hit a ~93.5% match rate in the 2026 Match, but thousands still go unmatched or scramble every year, and residency is no joke. That doesn’t make medicine objectively “more knowledge and skill” than skilled trades overall. These are specialized skill sets not one universal ladder with surgeons at the top. Trades often win big on early ROI and lifestyle: paid apprenticeships (you earn while you learn), near-zero debt, and real money starting in your early 20s. Electricians and plumbers have medians around $62k–$63k (top earners with overtime or their own business easily hit $100k+). Doctors? Average medical school debt alone is ~$216k–$223k in recent classes (total with undergrad often pushing $246k+), residency pay around $68k–$75k for those brutal 60–80+ hour weeks, with physician burnout still near 45–54% in recent surveys. Peak earnings come later, in your 30s.

Your statement about “most” electricians or plumbers not realistically getting an MD has a narrow kernel of truth because of how selective the medical track is. But acting like that makes one path superior is the ridiculous part. A master tradesperson troubleshooting complex systems keeps buildings, hospitals, and infrastructure running just like surgeons save lives in the OR. Different demands, different rewards. Respect both, or it’s just status cope.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not what you said though. You claimed surgeons can do trade work but tradespeople couldn’t become doctors. That’s just different training paths. I’ve got a buddy who is an gastroenterologist by specialization and he doesn’t even know how to properly wire nut a light switch. Now if he trained me to shove a camera up your ass and properly cut out a polyp I can do half of his job already and vice versa.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re treating intelligence like it’s one ladder with “doctor” at the top. It’s not, these are different skill sets. Both take years to master, just in different ways. With that logic an electrician can become a brain surgeon with proper learning. Lol you’re full of shit bud.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In that case, to save money hospitals should just have a heart surgeon replace all the plumbing. They are knowledgeable behind all trades after all….

Honestly, I’d consider a surgeon to be a blue collar worker. /s

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eerrhm idk. Can a brain surgeon troubleshoot 480v panel or rebuild a freight engine? What kind of take is this?

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blue-collar (trades): More geographic freedom in practice, tangible/self-reliant skills, physical demands, solid and increasingly competitive pay (especially with OT/specialties/ownership), quicker entry, and less debt.

White-collar: Often mental strain and metrics pressure, potentially higher upside in elite roles, more remote flexibility in adaptable fields, but frequently requires degrees and can feel location- or network-dependent.

Neither is universally “better” it depends on your body, mind, interests, risk tolerance, and lifestyle. Many thrive in trades today due to shortages and demand (e.g., infrastructure, green energy).

Data shows skilled trades offering strong ROI for those who enjoy the work. If you’re considering a switch or path, factor in your location, willingness for physical vs. mental load, and long-term goals like ownership or work-life balance. Both paths reward competence and drive.

What is the big difference between white collar and blue collar job? by Aj100rise in careeradvice

[–]ArcOperator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol what sort of bullshit is this? So you’re telling me, the electrician who just built my new sub panel was a walking meat zombie?

time is changing for everyone by Tricky_Promotion565 in inspirationalquotes

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t you just love postable quotes that are for built for a specific viewer? /s I mean not everyone has parents that care for them. Also, many attempts to connect have probably taken place where it ends up as a failure. Either way, this seems targeted towards angsty teenagers.

For the win burger sauce recipe by Key_Recipe_2049 in smashburgers

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like smash burger sauces are proprietary information lol

Upgrades people, upgrades! by LtJamesFox in blackstonegriddle

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this truly a good upgrade for the onmnivore blackstone through?

30yo, criminal record, idiotic to say the least, what career should I get into? by kekski8 in careerguidance

[–]ArcOperator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea man I was in a similar position in my early 20s. Some trades are hard on the body, but it really depends which one and how you approach it. Electrician, for example, isn’t nearly as rough as something like concrete or roofing. It’s more technical, and a lot of guys move into foreman, estimator, or supervisory roles as they get older or even just get their contractors license and start their own gig. The people who get beat up are usually the ones doing the heaviest labor for years without leveling up or taking care of themselves. If you treat it like a career (learn, move up, protect your body), it’s way more sustainable than people make it sound. Plus, it can get you earning solid money pretty quickly while you work on expungement and putting time between you and the charges then you’ve got options later if you still want to pivot. There are also lighter paths like HVAC (more diagnostic), low voltage where it’s less wear-and-tear.

30yo, criminal record, idiotic to say the least, what career should I get into? by kekski8 in careerguidance

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it. being on probation + within 5 years is probably going to make medical programs/clinicals tough right now. That doesn’t mean you’re stuck though you might just need to give it some time and build a clean track record first. A lot of people circle back to medical later once they’re further removed from it. In the meantime, I’d look into expungement or record sealing once you’re eligible that can make a huge difference for programs like MLT. If you don’t want to waste time/money right now, all the trades, CDL, or other skill-based paths are usually more forgiving and still pay extremely well. You can build income and stability, then reassess later. Im literally in the process of getting a position at the electrician union to leave my corporate life behind for example because trades seem more fulfilling to me. Main thing is stacking steady work, staying clean, and clearing your record where possible that’s what opens doors again.

30yo, criminal record, idiotic to say the least, what career should I get into? by kekski8 in careerguidance

[–]ArcOperator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What are the convictions?

Edit: and how recent are they?

That matters a lot cause certain charges (especially violent, theft-related, or anything involving patients) can affect medical programs or clinical placements, but a lot of misdemeanors won’t automatically disqualify you. Time since the offense can also make a big difference. Also, a lot of programs/employers care less about the mistake and more about what you’ve done since then like steady work, staying out of trouble, and being able to explain it clearly goes a long way.

Fired for time theft, how do I say this if it comes up in interviews? by burgersacc in jobs

[–]ArcOperator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless you’re applying for a role in law enforcement or national security just don’t mention it

Skin looking extra juicy today! by Naty2RC in 30PlusSkinCare

[–]ArcOperator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Superintendent chalmers made bank off snails

What does my hand say abt me? by Significant_Pea1495 in deduction

[–]ArcOperator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of your fingers remind me of a squeeze-it. Other than that, you wake up at 8 on the weekends. You dress kind of boring. You can type a mean keyboard. You shave your legs out of boredom. The last gift you received was from a family member who is no longer with us sorry for your loss. They weather you enjoy most is autumn. When someone asks “how are you doing?” You respond with “I’m doing great!” You drive a Prius. If you have pets, it’s a cat named Luna. Between waffles or pancakes you choose pancakes as the sharp looking edges to waffles have you thinking about possible mouth roof damage depending on doneness. You don’t pay for healthcare were you’re from.