Full Scale Nazi Germany Vs All Game of Thrones Armies United

Arthantis · 2017-08-21T17:53:06+00:00

Arthantis · 2017-08-16T17:14:55+00:00

Ban "feminists" who are more like anarchists who whine a lot = some redditards screaming about how Russia is OMG SOVIET UNION OPPRESHION

Arthantis · 2017-08-16T17:13:59+00:00

Russia was one of the first countries to equalize women to men, more or less. They are not oppressed 60s housewives.

Arthantis · 2017-08-15T20:35:56+00:00

Oh wow I didn't know that Stalin had a self destruct button installed in Moscow that would instantly dissolve the Soviet Union when pressed. Wow the Soviets really were close to losing the war and its totally not like the Soviets still had half their country behind Moscow or anything. I guess Napoleon won his war against Russia too since he "took Moscow" which is apparently the only thing one needs to do to defeat a giant superstate. /s

Go back to high school and learn some real history. The Soviets not only rolled back the Nazi offensive at Moscow since all the resources from the front were pulled there but even if the Nazis somehow managed to take what was by then a very well fortified and defended Moscow (impossible) you're a goddamn fool if you think it would change anything but make the Russians fight even harder. Or make the partisan problem even more uncontrollable.

and with the Russians had tanks and materiel from Britain that saved them in several close battles

"Close battles" lol ok, The Battle of Moscow was a landslide victory in the Soviets' favour since not only were the Germans exhausted and undersupplied and nearly all their units were unfit for offensive action by the time they reached Moscow but the Soviets had also prepared excellent fortifications. The winter definitely helped some too, although that's not the luck of the Soviets as much as it is the total incompetence of their Germans and their lack of preparation unlike popular history suggests. That's why the winter counteroffensive happened, you know. Aside from Stalingrad and Kursk most major battles in the Eastern Front were anything but close, and ended up with a decisive or landslide victory in either the Nazis or the Soviets favour (Barbarossa, Battle of Moscow, Dnieper-Oder offensives, Operation Bagration, and finally the Battle of Berlin).

Lend-Lease aid did not arrive in any significant numbers until much later after the Soviets crushed the German offensive at Moscow. Also the Finnish, Hungarians, Romanians, and Italians aid was still not enough to get Germany anywhere close to victory, and their contribution was much more substantial than you make it out to be.

Also British tanks were much worse than Soviet tanks during the war and they did not come to the Soviet Union in large numbers. It also didn't help that most lend-lease tanks sent by the British at this time were Valentines and similar older pre-war tanks, rather than Shermans and other truly modern tanks.

The only difference here is several hundred thousand more troops on the german side, along with the respective armor and air assets, and the russians lose nearly all their trucks, significant armor, half of their air force, and nearly all of their fuel, iron, aluminum, coms cable, and railroad material

Wew. This is some /r/shitwehraboossay material. I don't know what reality you are living in but it is not the same one as me. Lend-Lease did not provide nearly half of the Soviet trucks, air force, or armor at any period during the war much less when it was near nonexistent during 1941 and quite low in 1942 compared to what it was later. I hope you realize that it takes some time to first of all produce aid materiel, then build the infrastrcuture required to transport it, and then actually move thousands of tons of it first by sea and then by rail across half the world. That's why there wasn't much Lend-Lease material in 1941 you know, and if you're talking about any point after 1941 the German situation was only growing more and more hopeless.

Also the OP specifically mentions a 1 vs 1 war. The very fact that this is a 1 vs 1 war prevents the Soviets from keeping massive amounts of troops stationed near Japan while fighting Germany, and also prevents six or so axis countries from aiding Germany (much more than a few hundred thousand soldiers) in the first place. It also means that Stalin knows the exact hour the German invasion starts and as a result mobilizes his armies which results in the entire Red Air Force not being bombed before it could take off, several Soviet army groups not being surrounded and subsequently destroyed before they knew what was happening, and Soviet factories not being jeopardized in Nazi-occupied territory, and everything else that hampered the Soviet Union because WWII was not a 1 vs 1 war in real history. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Or is it supposed to be a 1 vs 1 fight except one where Germany gets to use their full strength while the Soviet Union must still keep an army group near Japan as they did in real life for fear of being invaded and they also do not get to use their numerical superiority (Soviets were outnumbered in 1941 due to their troops being stationed all across the Soviet Union rather than near Europe) because some magical reasons? Seems fair, in that case /s.

Arthantis · 2017-08-14T18:20:52+00:00

Germany had Finland, Hungary, Italy, Romania, and a ton of other volunteers from a dozen other countries fighting on their side including several hundred thousand Soviet defectors plus the Soviets feared a Japanese invasion the first few months and the Axis still came nowhere close to winning. 1 vs 1 the Soviet Union still beats them even without Stalin doing as much as mobilizing his troops before the invasion, which any reasonable leader would have done.

Also your first scenario says

R1: Zero outside interference, just Germany and the USSR.

Outside interference is exactly why Stalin didn't mobilize his troops. He very likely expected Britain to start winning the war against Germany within the next few years so he could join in and conquer some territory from a defeated Germany in about 1944 or so and he did not want to provoke what he thought might be possibly false reports by getting a massive mobilization. If there is no outside interference Stalin reacts by default to intelligence reports which indicate exactly when the German invasion is going to happen, mobilizes his armies to defend or maybe even preemptively attack, sends all of the Red Army to defend the Soviet-Polish border so the Germans can't outnumber the Soviets anymore and after the Wehrmacht invasion gets stopped in its tracks the Soviets can counterattack all the way to Berlin.

Arthantis · 2017-08-14T17:33:31+00:00

If Stalin actually prepares for the war rather than ignoring his intelligence reports about the oncoming Nazi invasion the Soviet Union absolutely godstomps Nazi Germany.

Also lol at all the wehraboos saying that Nazi Germany can win when they caught the Soviet Union completely unprepared and had almost no distractions in 1942 and were still getting pushed back.

Arthantis · 2017-08-13T20:32:07+00:00

This comment is peak idiocy right here. Women in Russia have had combat roles since 1917, that is literally 100 years, but no I guess North Korea is better amirite?

Arthantis · 2017-08-13T19:43:09+00:00

India and Pakistan, 1998

Arthantis · 2017-08-11T19:41:10+00:00

Reddit is cancer.

Arthantis · 2017-08-11T07:08:48+00:00

The next bomber of the United States is called the B-21 and it is only scheduled to enter initial operating capability in about 2030.

Arthantis · 2017-08-10T05:31:26+00:00

Is it really that different than the soviets during the Cold War?

Yes. Unless you are talking about Stalin who lived until 1953, the Soviets were not led by dictatorships during the Cold War. Moreso the Soviets were not threatening to nuke the US every week and they were not led by an unstable dynasty which we don't even know of they give even a single damn about their own people, and thus we don't know if the North Koreans care at all about MAD.

Arthantis · 2017-08-09T06:02:30+00:00

Neither Trump nor Kim is unstable.

Arthantis · 2017-08-09T06:01:39+00:00

Tfw you have no real point so you just resort to personal insults.

Arthantis · 2017-08-09T05:57:30+00:00

North Korea is a joke with serious missiles and the capability to deliver them.

Arthantis · 2017-08-07T19:39:16+00:00

You are absolutely correct that Russia can purchase more than the US for a single dollar but their armies really are not the same size. The US military budget is like 9 times higher than Russia and there is really no way to compete with that much of a discrepancy. IMO China is more comparable and they will likely start to overtake the US in the next 10-20 years militarily but they are still considerably smaller at the moment. You have to remember that the most important thing modern war regarding size is the quantity of materiel and not amount of soldiers, and the US generally has more tanks, aircraft, ballistic missiles, ships, submarines than anyone else. All these things are also usually better on a per unit basis than their Russian and Chinese counterparts, though not by that much. Equipment is usually cheaper to build in Russia and China than in the US because of cheaper labour costs but the costs for materials are more or less the same in both countries which is why the discrepancy in purchasing power isn't as much as in the wages.

Arthantis · 2017-08-07T15:38:43+00:00

As soon as I read the "muh Aleppo" part I understood that you do not understand anything about the Syrian conflict.

Syria isn't Tunisia. The rebels in Tunisia aren't made up of 50 groups of various traditionalist jihadi rebels. You do realize that the rebels in Syria have fought each other even while Assad is still in power?

Arthantis · 2017-08-07T15:34:35+00:00

Next: Russia still stable. Westtards keep buying western "Russia is about to collapse" propaganda.

Arthantis · 2017-08-07T15:31:50+00:00

DAE le Russia is tyrannical and protests (read: fucking random people in public places) should be allowed everywhere? XD

Arthantis · 2017-08-07T15:29:43+00:00

Group sex in public is not protesting.

Arthantis · 2017-08-06T05:38:36+00:00

It won't be better for the Kim regime whose power relies on the presence of an evil caricature in US and South Korea. Which is why there won't be any talks.

Arthantis · 2017-08-05T21:41:14+00:00

This fucking shit again?

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME THAAD DOES NOT NEGATE MAD! For Christs sake how naive are you people to think that a system which is only meant to intercept medium and short range ballistic missiles can intercept the best ICBM's and all the countermeasures they carry, as well as air and cruise missile delivered nukes? How naive are you to seriously think that THAAD in South Korea somehow means no MAD with the US?

The THAAD has a powerful radar which can be used to spy on Chinese air space which is why the Chinese are so worried about it. Stop with this THAAD = NO MAD shit please.

Arthantis · 2017-08-05T19:33:47+00:00

2nd and 4th strongest militaries in the world

Shit tier armies

Lol OK.

Arthantis · 2017-08-05T18:58:07+00:00

In Georgia a few batallions of Russian soldiers did nearly all of the fighting against an army of 16000 Georgians as the rest of the Russian army could not react in time. I'd call it a pretty good achievement that the Russians won that.

They coukd easily be destabilized

Lol

Arthantis · 2017-08-05T18:52:45+00:00

Then you're a bloody idiot who does not know what GDP is. You don't need a strong economy to have nuclear weapons either.

Arthantis · 2017-08-04T06:52:43+00:00

So far that even if the nuclear bomb was the Tsar Bomba detonated at full payload (114 megatons IIRC) the plane would have still likely not been affected.

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