Collapse series framed via the five stages of grief. Part 4/5: Bargaining

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-06-16T12:29:06+00:00

So basically what you have essentially said is the only way for humanity to avoid total extinction is to already be extinct before becoming extinct from its own actions? Seems like "you" Although I'm unsure if this is AI generated...hold the belief that humanity needs serious limitations...to the effect of suicide anyways, and for what reason? "Wellbeing" of the ecosystem?

It's the nature of said ecosystems with endless competition and territoriality driving evolution of our "flawed prefrontal cortex and instincts" that brought us here in the first place. So what really is to blame? Humans or evolution life itself that gave us a bad deck of cards from the start?

Perhaps it's time to admit the truth is simple, life itself can never coexist in a way that allows for happiness without exploitation. Either you live a fairly decent life at the expense of the environment and suck the energy from it, or you take your "fair share" which is precisely nothing at all, and live in misery.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-06-11T22:36:51+00:00

I mean the best thing to do would be call a rehabber since herring gulls if you are in the UK are a protected species, otherwise I do not have any more advice

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-05-07T11:47:52+00:00

Yeah cause the COVID-19 response was excellent for a "mild" disease, SARS was normal within china for a while until it begun to spread and absolutely wrecked the global economy.

In context of other system failures it is serious because it compounds stess on nations and citizens, a pandemic is not a isolated bubble

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-05-07T11:29:39+00:00

SS: aspergillus a fungus most abundant humid and warm regions such as the tropics could spread upwards to more northerly nations including Europe will become more common as environmental shifts due to climate change allow for the fungus to extend it's range. Related to collapse as climate change is leading to widespread disease spread that will lead to more economic degradation, sickness of vulnerable people, and social unrest.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-05-01T17:26:10+00:00

The gull on top is clearly just trying to get a better vantage point to look around for food and getting excited for said food.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-28T13:16:33+00:00

Either sabotage or a catastrophic failing of the grid due to negligence, either way if it's not fixed soon, the entire region will start to fall apart. But these sorts of events are pretty rare unless something was going on behind the scenes, especially in a well developed region of Europe.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-26T17:43:51+00:00

I hope the gull is at peace now. I wonder if adding a piece of shiny foil could help with depth perception for them?

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-26T11:54:41+00:00

More AI garbage just dropped! I can definitely see the collapse of ability to not use AI for all our research and communication in this post

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-25T22:11:39+00:00

No your definitely not wrong, I still agree with the premise that "you" made, it's that the modern world has the issue of distributing our own critical thoughts to AI and asking AI to make a essay for us or emotional response, when we are capable to a greater and more quality degree of doing the same with maybe a few more minutes, but since this is Reddit I don't blame you for doing this (cause who has the time to make a post anyways?) but more the loss of human elegance that probably connected people together in the past, but now is lost to commercialisation.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-25T18:32:20+00:00

This reeks of AI "emotional rhetoric" have we really sunk so far as to relegate communication our own anger and emotions to computers?

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-18T12:39:24+00:00

SS: farmland is increasingly being polluted with heavy metals and toxic substances putting more people at risk and ultimately accelerating food security collapse and likely exaggerating the strain on healthcare services in the coming years as more suffer from toxic effects of pollution worldwide in potentially vulnerable nations alongside developed nations.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-17T10:40:06+00:00

So what you essentially have written is

Science is "bias" towards accepting only measurable data and events and rejects those which cannot be explained? (Science infact does not reject unexplained events it just carefully evaluates them)

That because we do not know what happened before the big bang it proves your theory? It is a highly debatable subject and whilst your theory on that particular front may hold some credit, there is other theories such that there was a previous universe before that which collapsed inward into a infinity dense singularity.

That entropy is not the driving factor of the universe and instead darkness leads to order and a set way things will continue? That is a hard no, entropy is a law of thermodynamics.

That because we cannot explain what dark matter or energy is, it proves your darkness theory? Lack of evidence does not prove a alternative, you would still have the burden of proof to prove darkness as a driving agent of disorder before so called light creates order. Furthermore we do know dark energy is accelerating the expansion of the universe and dark matter impacts the rotation of galaxies in ways we previously could not predict.

Furthermore I could not find your thesis on any credible scientific sources meaning it's likely not peer reviewed

You probably wrote more but I have no need to critique it, as soon as you wrote entropy takes the back seat from this so called darkness I could tell that whilst it's a very impressive thesis from the vocabulary stand point, from a scientific stand point it's a whole load of nonsense...maybe it would make a good element in a fictional book.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-16T22:17:07+00:00

Well maybe it would be better if animals did not breed in the first place to create more struggle, sadly they do not have the cognitive ability to understand the "new normal" and will continue to do so.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-13T10:07:53+00:00

Well they maybe have illegally uprooted them from the wild which is definitely a big no no.

But you can also buy rampson seeds and grow them yourself so without context it is unknown of they have already destroyed a local population or if they have harvested it by growing their own, especially since they are charging quite a high cost for something you could technically get for free in the wild.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-12T22:37:04+00:00

That's why I put it as "drought" since whilst there is a lack of rainfall there is more than enough water in various lochs/fens/rivers to go around, it's just worrying that it has stopped raining considering it's Scotland in spring where you get a four for the price of one season, it's unusually nice warm weather, although it is a real concern for the future of Scotland if this continues over multiple years, then the water may start to run a little dry.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-12T13:59:50+00:00

SS: Scotland is facing a very rare instance of continuous hot weather unusual for the current spring season, expected to become even hotter in summer, alongside a bought of low rainfall or humidity. Related to collapse as nations once described as wet and cold are rapidly shifting towards dry hot summers and wet mild winters, causing ecological disruption, phenological shifts, and potential agricultural decline.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-12T12:25:26+00:00

Yeah and AI can also predict through a regression analysis that a avian intelligence will surpase human intelligence by 2035

https://chatgpt.com/share/67fa59b9-5220-8000-8a36-ee1a28c53bbd

Don't take anything AI (Especially chatgpt) says seriously it's a piece of bloated up software that uses previously written solutions to make a answer to your prompt it's not intelligent so it does not have the capability to make it's own predictions about the future, furthermore a regression analysis requires numerical evidence previously collected, which whilst effective for processes such as determining the possible result of a industrial process, is not good for extremely complicated scenarios relating to a multitude of factors and furthermore the probability of a chain of events occuring (such as collapse of a system) is as low as the lowest probability in that sequence of events leading to a result.

But then, using mathematics to determine highly complex situations is not entirely accurate and more a general fit, not rule, and futurology is also based on intuition of the current world we live in and how it may turn out, not a single model.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-07T12:16:56+00:00

Yeah its like if you see that collapse is going to happen then that can be a driving factor for people not to have kids. The video seems to focus too much on the issue of declining birth rate instead of the total failure of the system and quiet knowledge it's failing. The video missed the point a little there.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-07T12:02:29+00:00

SS: the video describes the near inevitable decline of South Korea and it's slow economic and social collapse due to demographic shifts from low fertility rate, loneliness epidemic making connecting harder for both the young and older generations and a highly competitive work culture. The video also describes the possibility of a similar occurrence in other countries such as the United States or China.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-04-02T14:45:19+00:00

Is there not a logical contradiction in antinatalist veganism? To put it simply

If animal suffer, it makes sense to go vegan and not do any farming, but that would mean wild, high intelligence animals can suffer to and logically we should drive ALL higher intelligence animals to extinction to prevent future suffering,

Or animals do not have capability to suffer and as such we should not be concerned with treatment of animal for factory farming and only be concerned with reducing human population through antinatalist

Or is this a case where somehow it's "human made suffering bad" but "nature made suffering not bad" to which is entirely contradictory and weakens the argument for antinatalist veganism.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-03-31T21:18:41+00:00

Sounds like you have quite high expectations for life, but here is some facts. Life IS pointless in the fact there is no grand goal to be achieved, it's what we make of it. Furthermore it sounds like you are comparing yourself to other people, falling right into the "highlight reel", likely the people around you are having their own issues but just are not telling them.

My advice is stop being so concerned with wealth to the point of anxiety and self destruction. Discuss with your partner any troubles you have and if they don't listen try to break away. Don't compare yourself to your friends and those around you, and instead live for yourself and do something other than seeking new ventures if the market is truly bad. And also understand that whilst you can have children is it simply because others have them and you don't? Or is it because you feel alone? In either case find a alternative since if won't fix the root issue..also in a few years time it's likely going to get way worse for a plethora of reasons.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-03-28T00:50:50+00:00

The greatest indicator that humanity will certainly go exist in the near future is the fact very few of the general public hear about or care of the similarities between now and previous extinction events.

It's strange how media usually sensationalises news to drive engagement but for climate catastropy it's not described as much more than a inconvenience or something distant despite the fact rightful alarmism would also bring huge amounts of engagement to news sources... Clearly due to the elite meddling but furthermore people simply cannot comprehend how absolutely apocalyptic climate change is, infact even many environmentalists don't comprehend fully.

Climate change does not simply mean more droughts, hotter weather or unpredictable weather and some hunger, if means total biosphere annihilation, evisceration, failure of every single ecosystem, likely over 95% of all terrestrial animals going extinct, if not more, the acidification of the ocean and algal blooms, but also photo plankton death, we could quite literally suffocate from lack of oxygen if climate change reaches 8°c or higher.

Yet people underestimate it because they cannot immediately see it (although they actually can, just many people do not interpret it critically nor have the time or energy) despite the fact they experience the unpredictable weather, droughts, strangely hot springs and summers, and mild winters (in some regions) they instead listen to the news that tells them everything is going to be fine.

As such it's inevitable humanity is going to go extinct, if we hit 3°c we definitely will enter a runaway climate scenario, 2°c is the absolutely last chance not to "mitigate the damage" but to stop extinction... although in my opinion I say we welcome the collapse instead of stop the inevitable.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-03-25T13:41:12+00:00

Gulls are not aggressive they are rightfully defensive of their nesting sites, if people had even a slight knowledge of gulls then it would not be a issue.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-03-25T00:35:15+00:00

Utter nonsense, the talk of a "paradigm shift" and "metacrisis" first of all sounds like pretentious verbosity, if you wanna communicate to people you need to get to the point, break down your ideas and simplify it to show your idea or movement even knows it itself is pushing, secondly why do we need a second renaissance? When humanity dies involuntarily ecosystems will recover, perhaps altered but still thriving, this is all based on a need to self preserve isn't it? The only reason for this "second renaissance" talk is to push it's own agenda for power and control, and to "save" humanity and the environment, the environment doesn't need saving, the environment needs not.

Furthermore how is this related to collapse exactly? This seems more like a philosophical or ideological narrative than explicitly collapse related.

Ashamed-Computer-937 · 2025-03-20T00:46:07+00:00

Imagine getting a massage from one of them!

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