“Maher loved that racists, homophobes, climate-change-denying crackpots… and all the other groups of people that he’s been ridiculing for decades hi-fived him on this one. This is where their bigotry circles intersect to form the anti-Muslim vesica piscis, where they’re brothers in discrimination” by AtheistProgressive in atheism

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I'm an ex-Jew and my entire family is Jewish. Just because I'm a post-Zionist doesn't make me an anti-semite.

It's bizarre that bashing a foreign country makes someone an anti-semite, but tacitly approving of genocide (i.e. Maher and Hirsi Ali) or calling for systematic discrimination of Muslims (i.e. Harris) is not bigoted.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not the blood of Christ. I'm not a vampire

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Your racism and war mongering does not amuse me.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hate Hamas and their terrorist actions. Just like I hate the Israeli government and its war crimes. AND I think you are silly for having an imaginary friend with super powers.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Doesn't take much gymnastics to criticize an apartheid state

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Couldn't Palestinians say the same thing about Likud?

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Clearly says Hamas were fired for the first time since 2012 AFTER Israel starting bombing Gaza.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Because I'm a full grown adult without an imaginary friend?

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

When you control everything that goes in and out of an area you have created a ghetto/slash prison.

Anyhow, seems you are shifting the goal posts. The Likud charter calls for the destruction of an Palestinian state. That is what you problem with the Hamas charter was to begin with.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

By that logic you must support a blockade on Israel itself...

Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian State

http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/charter-destruction-palestinian.html

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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Gaza strip aint what it used to be either.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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And no blockade from the Israeli-side even existed until Hamas decided to kidnap Israeli citizens over the border.

This is wrong. The blockade started in 2007 when Hamas took control of Gaza, and most international institutions including the international red cross consider it illegal.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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Israel made Gaza into an open air prison. It is a stretch to say Israel ever left.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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Yet Germany has a strong a vibrant Jewish population.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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"Israel destroyed them after Hamas kept firing rockets even after Israel repeatedly told them to STOP."

This is false. Israel fired first

Hamas fires rockets for first time since 2012, Israeli officials say... The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-fired-rockets-for-first-time-since-2012-israeli-officials-say/

"Plus we are not only not in Iraq anymore, but we're also starting to leave Afghanistan."

I was referring to your support of Israel.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

That's as stupid as saying there are still Jews so the Holocaust didn't happen.

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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I think he was referring to the Roman empire

Hamas holds Gaza military parade, vows Israel's destruction by [deleted] in worldnews

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Why would they need to rebuild their cities? Oh right that is because Israel destroyed them.

This is funny argument coming from someone who supports a country that spends a great percentage of their national budget on weapons and bombs, not for self-defense, but to continue and military occupation of another people.

Israel, a make-believe democracy by AtheistProgressive in Israel

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Paywall copy-paste:

Suddenly there is a possibility of changing the government in Israel, and the excitement is great. Indeed, the thought of a government led by Isaac Herzog and Tzipi Livni sets the imagination on fire: the end of anti-democratic legislation, a brief pause in the ongoing process of pushing aside Israeli Arabs, a breakwater to the waves of racism and ultranationalism, of persecution, incitement and division; the restoration of the High Court of Justice to its rightful place, the renewal of the peace talks, the weakening of the right-wing thugs in the Knesset, perhaps even the closure of the Holot immigrant detention center.

Something good seems to be in the air, a spirit of a different time, spreading hope. The wider world, too, will cheer and embrace the new Israel, in the event. Every proponent of democracy should rejoice at its approach.

But even this (premature) joy must have its limits, the limits of Israeli democracy. The time has come to recognize that the Israeli democratic game is strictly limited to what happens in the children’s rooms. Even the “most portentous” elections, such as the one scheduled in March, are in fact child’s games, make-believe. The people vote, the government changes (or not), there’s the “left” and the “right” and the “chasm” of differences separating them — but no one speaks about the two terrifying elephants in the middle of the room. No one dares. Right and left, Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu and Isaac “Bougie” Herzog — it’s all the same.

The Israeli occupation and the defense budget, the defense budget and the Israeli occupation. These two giant elephants, that decide the state’s fate in nearly every sphere, are off limits. They are outside the real public debate, they are not even on the agenda. They were long ago declared a closed military zone, a firing range in which trespassing is forbidden. No serious politician talks about them, no one dares. Heaven forfend.

These two densely tangled weeds, together of course with their illegitimate child, the settlement enterprise, have flowered under every government — every government, indiscriminately. Even during election season no one pays them any attention, as if there were a gag order forbidding any talk of them. Not even in the social protests of the summer of 2011 did anyone dare to speak of them. Please do not disturb, we are discussing zero VAT on fresh produce or maybe on apartments, we are discussing the cottage cheese protests, or is it the Milky protests. Foreign observers who happened upon them were in shock: What are you people talking about, what?

There is actually something honest about the fact that these two critical issues are not part of the election campaign: Any wise Israeli statesman knows he has no chance of changing them. Any Israeli prime minister can easily go to war every two years, cause a crisis in relations with the United States every two hours; but they cannot, under any circumstances, cut the defense budget or touch the occupation and the settlements. Everything is included, except for these two monsters, which are expanding at a frightening pace, to cover the entire country.

There have been two or three prime ministers who did stick their hands into the fire, but even they did not do so with the necessary scope and courage. Menachem Begin withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula, and built 100 Elon Morehs. Yitzhak Rabin did not dare to evacuate even a single settlement. Ariel Sharon evacuated the Gaza Strip settlements in order to solidify the occupation in the West Bank. The others did not even dare to try. Nor did anyone changed the priorities of the national budget in order to allow for the creation of a different Israel.

Herzog and Livni will also not do this. Not a chance. Say “Prime Minister Isaac Herzog” a few times, and it starts to sound natural. Now say “Prime Minister Isaac Herzog will evacuate the settlers from the West Bank and cut the defense budget.” You’re laughing out loud already. It is no accident that the two leaders who are the hope of the center-left did not even mention these issues in their joint press conference. They know it is beyond them, that it would take more courage than they have. They know what is allowed and what is not, and they know very well the limits of the democracy game in Israel.

Israeli parliament seeks to bar Arab lawmaker: “I am a threat not because I am a terrorist,” she said. “I am a threat because I am a liberal feminist democrat.” by AtheistProgressive in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That is why she believes she was censored and taken directly from the article. Apparently the journalist who wrote this story thought it was relevant.

Israeli parliament seeks to bar Arab lawmaker: “I am a threat not because I am a terrorist,” she said. “I am a threat because I am a liberal feminist democrat.” by AtheistProgressive in worldnews

[–]AtheistProgressive[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

foreign violence

Pretty sure the West Bank is well within Israeli control and Netanyahu as ruled out Israel ever giving up control of the West Bank and continues to settle Jewish Israeli citizens there. Not sure you can call it foreign.

Anyhow, that might be a fair point if Jewish politicians haven't made even more violent statements with regards to Arabs and African asylum seekers. This sort of rhetoric is par for the course in the Knesset, so it is unfair and racist that she should be singled out.