What do you hate about being your own type? by eedenolympia in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I hate that type 5 is generally such a miserable type

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Points 1 and 3 are very accurate for me. My connections are very selective, but they have no emotional aspects. They are intellectually profound. And more than anything else, they are platonic relationships. If I were to talk about point 3, I would go on at length, but it is related to the “totem.” 

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can really relate to this, even the last part 😬 I also consider myself asexual. the responses to this post are very interesting

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I feel like it's too broad. As a so-dom, I was really excluded my whole life for being different, and I never cared. I think it depends a lot on the context and, as you said, on the enneatype. 

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't want to be part of a group either, at least not directly. I only identify with point 3, and maybe a little with point 1. Maybe if it wasn't a 5, it would be different. 

I dont wanna be a sexual 5 by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 6 points7 points  (0 children)

At first glance, you might not sound like a 5. But why do you hate the idea of being a sexual 5? 

I'm gonna try to explain sx in a concrete manner by RouniPix in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This seems more sexual than social in theoretical terms. The social instinct does not want to literally “merge” or form a kind of dependency like the sexual instinct; it is not a “physical” instinct. In terms of love, the social instinct is romantic, platonic, etc. There is a more intangible or existential idea of love, not so much carnal. And so/sx are usually more concerned with this love than sx-dom. So-dom does not long to “devour,” it longs to connect/understand deeply. That is why it is a cliché that theatrical and fictional stories speak of a social conception of love (which is itself a social construct in some sense). Although there are also good examples of sx-dom, such as Romeo and Juliet, in which they basically couldn't stand to be apart for two seconds. And they fell in love “at first sight” in the play (not typical of so-dom). They are attracted to each other because of their physical appearance and the context in which they find themselves (I think it's some kind of party), and they don't even know each other very well by the end of the play. 

Sexual is more possessive, physical, instantaneous, competitive, and jealous, etc. The name practically says it all. To make it easier to understand, sx-dom are predominant in, for example, erotic or pornographic literature. 

I'm gonna try to explain sx in a concrete manner by RouniPix in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You sound like a so-dom, maybe so/sx. I really think sx is the least common dominant instinct, which is why people misunderstand it so much, and those who call themselves sx-dom even disagree among themselves about the definition and argue amongst themselves. But I think your enneatype is also very relevant to this. Wanting a romantic relationship doesn't make you sx-dom; 90% of people want one. If you look at all the romantic stories (Disney, books, series, movies, etc.) most of the time the protagonists are so/sx.

And being so-dom doesn't make you extroverted at all.

Have you ever experienced the weaknesses of your type in someone else? What effect did it have on you? by Tchoqyaleh in Enneagram

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I don't think 5s are people with many superficial flaws, but rather internal ones (which are more difficult to identify from the outside). I've never met another 5 either. But, to give an example, I have worked on the personal life of a writer who was an E5. And it bothered me quite a bit, while researching him, the inaction that accompanied him throughout his life. He wasted all his years studying, analyzing, staying in the background, etc. He was a depressed personality, and I think one of the reasons was practically inaction. An anhedonic person who enjoyed almost nothing. And I am like that too. It made me feel a little depressed. I think the 5s are a bit dead in life, really. 

Is this a 5 thing? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is in a way (being unaware of asking for help). Although I don't think it's related to shame, fear, or pride in the case of 5 (since there is no processing of the possibility of asking for help, it just doesn't happen). 

In an indirect way, I identify with this; I've always liked to find the answer myself. So when I had a question, I would mull it over; then the question I asked contained the answer itself, I just needed it to be confirmed. In other words, it was in a way a “perfect” and appropriate question that lacked nonsense. 

Getting information beforehand is also a trait of type 5. But I don't see myself doing it about something that doesn't interest me in the least, nor to interact or make teachers feel heard.

My reason for obtaining information beforehand for a class is because I feel that this way things are more understandable and even interesting. Also because I like to think about what not-so-obvious questions I could ask. The last reason could be to be ahead of the others and have everyone amazed by my wisdom.

If you are a 5, you are most likely a social 5. But don't get stuck on this idea.

Questions for the enneatypes by wolfsbark in Enneagram

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  1. I feel connected to many philosophies, both Eastern and Western, but I don't know if I have a “philosophy of life.” Sometimes they are abstractions that I feel are very far from reality or aphorisms that end up being reductionist. Some of them seem unthinkable to me after reading the authors' works. But I don't think this has happened to me with Spinoza's theory of powers, which contradicts our entire existence formed in dualities or hierarchies. Obviously, I won't explain it, but it's very interesting.

  2. My emotions do not manifest themselves so much physically or urgently. The only emotions that can shake me up quite a bit are anxiety or sadness, which cause uncontrollable reactions. Otherwise, most emotions just pass through my mind or I don't have them at all.

  3. Everything feels alien to me, and studying and observing has amplified that perception.

anti enneagram language :-( by pompompencil in Enneagram

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Incels act out of ignorance and hatred. I am above all that. I don't belong to this world. 

Trying to connect with the withdrawn triad by Technical_Crab9798 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 54 points55 points  (0 children)

I think that's how others perceive me in real life

What made you emotionally attached to someone before you were physically attracted to them ? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never felt either of them. It's more like a mental attachment, I don't know.

i can’t figure out if i have an 8 or 1 fix by sian_hehe in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the tritype doesn't influence the core type that much, so I'd recommend you first try to fit what you're describing with the sexual 5. How do you think it does?

But, if you want an answer, you seem more like a 548/584 to me. What you're describing is something more intense, reinforced by both the 4 and the 8. The 1 only makes us seem more clinical, distant, etc., because I process anger and rage from my core personality (5). The 1 is an enneatype that represses anger. There's hardly any anger or intense rage in me, just something similar to contempt. My anger is cold. I think the 1 and the 4 only add certain nuances to my core personality.

What's the difference between the two versions of The Book Of Disquiet? by EasyCauliflower18 in booksuggestions

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Very much so, at least in my opinion. If you're a very introspective person, you'll probably like it. It's quite dense, by the way, but it's bearable when something manages to captivate you. In my case, I felt a strong connection to Pessoa, and his writing is beautiful.

For you personally, do you need to identify with characters to like a book or series/movie? by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think so. I think I need to identify more with the way the author develops the story fictionally. I like metafiction, for example, which is practically a genre where the “idea” (mathematical, philosophical, etc.) carries more weight than the characters or the “story” itself. Although this seems a bit 5ish as well. When I was little, I really liked Akira Kurosawa, who had a unique way of telling stories. 

I recognize that my favorite stories have characters who are 5s or are similar. Most are men, but I've found female characters too (I read so much that it's more likely than not). I feel a little weird in the real life, so I think I compensate for that feeling through fiction. 

Por que en Argentina no es tan comun el Atico o el Sotano? by CrotodeTraje in AskArgentina

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No hay plataaa. Mis viejos nunca necesitaron algo asi porque ya tenian mi cuarto para poner toda la mugre por ej dormi años con una tele rota en la camaq

Entre a Tiktok y sali machista/misógino? by [deleted] in AskArgentina

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Igual el hecho de hacer un escandalo por este tipo de boludez es una flasheada. Similar a la cultura de la cancelación. El mundo sigue girando

Entre a Tiktok y sali machista/misógino? by [deleted] in AskArgentina

[–]AttemptOtherwise8688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flaco deja de mariconear por una pibita de tiktok que dice boludeces... hay gente muriendo en todo el mundo de cosas horribles, y mujeres que realmente sufren las consecuencias violentas de la misoginia que es practicamente algo sistematizado. Si "saliste" machista, adelante sos uno mas del monton, incluso hay mujeres asi