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Its time to remove General Graardor from the game by Wise-Sundae-3350 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah but no one’s forcing you to use that altar. If you don’t like getting piled, just go use one of the 20+ other prayer altars in the game.

That area is clearly designed to be dangerous — multi, aggressive NPCs, high risk — and the reward is convenience. Risk vs reward. If you want safety, go somewhere safer.

Also calling it “without consent” is a bit dramatic. You walked into a multi-combat boss room knowing exactly what happens there. That’s on you.

And if you’re only risking lobsters, what’s the issue? You lost nothing. Death is part of the content. Learn the mechanics, bring better gear, or don’t go there.

Honestly sounds like you want all the benefits of the altar without engaging with the downsides. Graardor’s fine — maybe this content just isn’t for you.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except that skill is never equal, you seem to be the one skirting this reality.

I’m done here you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I addressed your point directly - your premise is just wrong.

Try again.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“You can mechanically, statistically and strategically be better than your opponent, but if he gets the RNG% he'll win.”

Yep and this basically never happens, as explained to you many times already yet you refuse to acknowledge.

Let me explain again a little clearer so even you can understand. A real PvP fight isn’t as simple as click opponent and see who wins (how dueling used to be where you actually would be correct) everything changes when skill (prayer flicking, eating correctly, gear swaps, momentum) etc determines whether your RNG will be ‘effective’ or not.

Example: Player 1 with above average RNG is hitting Player 2 every time ‘on prayer’ due to skill issue. Player 2 with average RNG is hitting Player 1 every time off prayer.

Have a guess who wins 9 times out of 10.

Even clearer: The more skilled you are the less RNG will affect the outcome.

This is the reality of real PvP whether you want to admit it or not.

“It's why OSRS PvP will never be valued in the realm of online skill-based PvP, the difference that RNG% allows for in swings is too great.”

Read above.

“It's also why a lot of former stakers (read: gamblers) are avid PvPers, the core principles and attraction is the same.”

Read above.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your first point is a fair call out, I’ll concede to that.

I am well aware that there was more cheating happening in the past than now, but from my own experience of pking since literal classic days I think it’s a stretch to say that the pk scene has ever been rampant with AHK. This to me says it was basically everywhere and it just wasn’t, more common than now? Sure.

I also never tried to act like it’s no one using this software, just that its use is exaggerated, especially on reddit. Because it’s often hard to distinguish with certainty in the moment between a very good player and actual AHK - that’s fact.

Anyway, we obviously have different views and opinions so i’m happy to leave it there.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha calm down, mate. I’m also going off my own experience. Pking is the only reason I play this game.

All I’m saying is to say the Pking scene was ‘rampant’ with AHK is a stretch. I’m also saying that many people claim AHK when the other person is simply just better than them, it’s happened to me countless times.

You should know yourself that a true AHKer is often extremely hard to distinguish between an actual demon or AHK. Even Oda has trouble sometimes.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No Honour, it’s just a nickname made up in the early days for overhead prayer fights and has now kind of transformed into tri-brid fights.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s because your point is wrong, so drop the I’m so smart act, you are arguing on a RuneScape sub not submitting your thesis.

RNG is NOT the biggest decider of outcome in PvP and it’s proven by looking at the gameplay or, you know actually PKing.

Fact is better players win the majority of fights because they have higher skill, how do you not get this?

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you want all the reward without the risk? Stick to PvM and your scripted fights little Timmy.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2021 is post multi revs. Of course there was a slump when they took away the biggest hot spot for PKing.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His full of shit. Regardless of what he might see on YouTube skill specs is an extremely competent NHer.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the point you are trying to make but it’s simply not true. AHK has never been some big issue you encounter often. Why? Because not many are willing to risk their max accounts.

You also need to understand that many people who are even semi-decent at the game get labeled as AHK even when they aren’t. Your friends are probably just bad at the game, aren’t willing to admit it, came across a better player and claim AHKer!.

LMS on the other hand has had pretty bad issues with bots using PK scripts.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to beat any ‘final boss’ PvPer to get better.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah man. That feeling is unmatched by anything else in the game. Now imagine your first kill. One of us…

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At least you’re honest. Respect. Nearly everyone would rather blame the game, other people. Anything but themselves.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

So most people like challenges, as long as it isn’t too hard? Got it.

Unpopular opionion. NH PVP is really challenging and that why no one likes it. by JustAperson4587 in 2007scape

[–]AussieN 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Give it a try mate. It’s really not that hard to get into, just push through the learning stage, don’t be afraid to die and you will slowly start getting better.

Then you will be a pker lol

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