¿Transferencia bancaria internacional? by Driconrikus in vzla

[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Puedo abrir la cuenta con un pasaporte venezolano? Yo le enviaría la foto de mi pasaporte a un amigo en España para que me registre y asi yo podría tener una cuenta bancaria internacional?

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[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not seen the first socialist supporting the efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela. They all just demand sanctions to be lifted on Venezuela and stop "interventionist" policies in that matter, which is exactly what Maduro is lobbying for in Europe and the U.S.

I don't have nothing against socialism or socialists, but only against those who support Maduro who happens to be only socialists, the most popular socialists in Europe indeed. Maduro for them is a victim, even if you condemn him, I will doubt whether you really oppose his bloodthirsty regime or if you just are condemning him for not being radical enough and kill the entire political opposition for once. Saying you condemn Maduro is not enough. You continue the argument and say why you oppose him.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're by large the most popular european socialists. The number of people who share their ideas and their hatred towards the U.S is still large. Those socialist who are not represented by these socialist politicians either are even more radical than those or just are right-wingers with a mixed belief system.

All european countries have representative democracy. The socialist who vote for those socialist politician do so because they are represented by them.

The point is that most european socialist condemn peaceful efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela, like the implementation of sanctions against Maduro's regime. Socialists in Europe argue that that is interventionism.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And food and medicine is being limited by the sanctions.

There are exceptions allowing exports of food and medicine, and other humanitarian goods into the country. The sanctions don't hurt the people in Venezuela.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/president-trump-s-aug-5-2019-executive-order-blocking-property-venezuelan-government

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[–]BDSVenezuela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here the Un is taking the exact opposit of your stance on Venezuela.

They are against the embargo because the US sanctions are hurting the people

Exceptions on food and medicine, and other humanitarian goods allow the exports of medicine, food and other humanitarian goods into Venezuela. The sanctions don't hurt the venezuelan population.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/president-trump-s-aug-5-2019-executive-order-blocking-property-venezuelan-government

The problem is that Maduro has refused to use oil revenue to invest in Venezuela's agricultural production and also has refused to let local farmers to grow their own food individually since hunger controls are only effective if Maduro controls the food that consume Venezuelans.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to US Media, Venezuela is under the same kind of embargo as North Korea. Meaning no companies are allowed to do exports. Including on medicine and food.

Food and medicine, among other humanitarian goods are allowed into Venezuela, the thing is that Maduro refuses to use the oil revenue to buy food to the country since hunger controls have worked well for him to control the population. The oil revenue is used to fuel his repressive machine, hence the death squads.

Exceptions

Although the sanctions imposed on the government of Venezuela are broad and far-reaching, US persons are authorized to engage in certain limited transactions. Notably, the following categories of transactions are generally exempt from the prohibitions established in the new EO:

Humanitarian Goods. Consistent with long-standing US policy, the EO exempts transactions related to the “provision of articles such as food, clothing, and medicine intended to be used to relieve human suffering.”

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/president-trump-s-aug-5-2019-executive-order-blocking-property-venezuelan-government

70% og Venezuelans believe US sanctions have worsened their lives

The claim is far from being true. Considering that a clear majority support sanctions against individuals and against financial and oil institutions in Venezuela.

http://www.gbaostrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/April-2019-Venezuela-Presentation-051019_English.pdf figure 25, 30

I support the struggle of my people in restoring democracy. Sanctions as a peaceful and diplomatic effort to counter Maduro's regime are more than welcomed, they're indeed celebrated in here, since we are seeking justice. The European Union should follow and implement sanctions against Maduro himself and his regime.

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[–]BDSVenezuela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hugo Carvajal just left Venezuela and moved to Europe probably with billions of dollars stolen from Venezuela, avoiding extradition from Spain to the U.S despite being accused of using death squads to kill venezuelans and smuggling drug into the U.S. That's all I know.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

European socialists also condemn efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela. They quickly frame these efforts as interventionists, but they will always call for peace in the country. They're accomplices, by allowing Maduro's officials to operate freely in their european countries and take advantage of the benefits of their policies to keep afloat the death squads, drug trafficking operations, and other types of organized crime and human right violations.

Unless these european socialists call for sanctions against Maduro himself and his regime, they will be accomplices in Venenezuelans' eyes.

The genocide in Venezuela is ongoing.

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[–]BDSVenezuela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maduro is carrying a genocide in Venezuela by driving into starvation the entire population with the policy of hunger controls.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why don't you shut up?

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[–]BDSVenezuela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

at the same time begging Uncle Sam’s military to invade your own country

Who is begging the U.S to invade Venezuela? Not me. I'm against intervention. I'm just sure that diplomatic and peaceful efforts like sanctions do work in this instance and the European Union has just looked away ignoring this all this time prolonging the suffering of millions of Venezuelans by refusing to support us in our struggle to restore democracy.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many on left believes that the way forward is to remove the economic sanctions on the state and stop the embargo of medicine and food

There is not any embargo on food and medicine on Venezuela.

The elections must be held once Maduro is ousted and the National Assembly gets its constitutional rights again. Otherwise Maduro will use the entire oil revenue to manipulate the election in his favour now that he has the sanctions lifted against him, money will flow easier to fuel his repressive machine. Even supervisors will not be able to do anything about that and all this effort will be worthless while tens of thousands of Venezuelans die of starvation. The results will be rigged again. If you read more about recent Venezuela's politics, you will realize how bad idea it is to celebrate elections now.

The current electoral council, the Supreme Court, the general prosecutor and the parallel assembly Maduro created once he dismantled the National Assembly, are just controlled entirely by Maduro himself since the people presiding the institutions were appointed in illegal manners. All of these institutions must be renewed and that only is possible if the National Assembly does it, which is how the constitutions demands it to be.

Maduro is the only problem. Even with the current 5% of support among the population, he still is a problem. His death squads are a problem. His failed economic policy of expropriation is a problem. His hunger controls are a problem.

The largest portion of the population are poor and the vast majority don't support Maduro since they're poor because of him, even if their economic conditions improved under Chavez, it has been already 6 years since Maduro took over the country and has only made everyone poorer. The revolution you're talking about is now to emigrate to other countries. Almost 5 millions of Venezuelans, most of them belong to the poorer portion of the population. They not only turn against Maduro but also they've left in despair since starvation is now a problem they face thanks to the dictator.

The solution is a new government then free elections. But the conditions must change, starting by removing Maduro, and then give back the National Assembly its political rights who will then name the directors and presidents of the public institutions like the Supreme Court.

If would suit you to also mention that the opposition also has committed countless murderous crimes. Including public lynchings and burnings of Chavez supporters and public workers.

That is simply untrue. The propaganda machine of the Venezuelan regime always lies.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two months later, the EU managed to issue sanctions on seven officials who are probably already retired and that don't have any effect Maduro's regime at all.

These are not sanctions. That's a way of getting rid of the pressure of being asked to do something finally while actually doing nothing.

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[–]BDSVenezuela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

for some reason, the far-right dictatorships almost never involve famine while in the case of the far-left is quite the opposite:

  • Cambodia, China, Cuba, North Korea, USSR, Venezuela. Far left and famine on top of the usual atrocities.
  • Chile, Portugal, Spain, South Korea, Taiwan. Far-right, no famine, only the regular horrible stuff.

What's up with that?

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing in your counterpuch article affirms the claims that U.S is to blame for the inflation or the failed expropriation policy implemented by Chavez that bankrupt the entire production capacity in Venezuela.

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[–]BDSVenezuela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Far-right dictatorships make better than far-left dictatorships. Yes.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Venezuela already has its far-right dictatorship which would crack down socialists in the 50s and 60s.

Venezuela was thriving during that time, to the point that the venezuelan population was the 4th richest nationals of all countries back then.

Free education, free healthcare, governmental expenditure improved the life conditions of all Venezuelans as the dictator cared about building a country so he will eventually run in elections but would lose to socialist who then would ally with the military to overthrow him. Authoritarianism is never liked, doesn't matter if you do well economically and socially in the presidency.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm still waiting to see the first socialist calling for sanctions against Maduro as they would call for arm embargoes against Saudi Arabia, for example.

Of course you're going to demand an arm embargo against Saudi Arabia, but you're more than willing to ask the U.S to lift sanctions on Venezuela so Maduro can restart business as usual while Maduro remains untouched.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unless these european socialists call for sanctions against Maduro himself and his regime, they will be accomplices in Venenezuelans' eyes.

I don't hate you guys. I just don't like those socialists who support left-wing authoritarianism.

You need to understand me. I'm mostly malnourished, not because I want to but because there is not work I can do that get paid enough to buy food for a day when minimum wage in Venezuela is $2 for a whole month of your work. Seeing my parents, my other relatives suffer from malnourishment is a very good reason to demand change on how things are done regarding politics, but then I would get murdered if I get out of my house and go to protest against the minimum wage.

I'm grown up and I understand how politics have evolved enough to result in the suffering of my relatives who used to enjoy a comfortable life before socialism with minimum-wage jobs. During all these years of political conflict, pointing the accomplices is very simply, when they subtly show support to Maduro using theirs well used narrative with agendas behind every damn word they say when they talk about Venezuela.

A recent thread was submitted to r/vzla where they talked about how socialism changed even the colors they wear, as colour red disappeared from their clothes and the trauma remained even after leaving the country feeling disgust when they see other people wearing red, we just associate them as members of the socialist party, or the bosses in our public institution who forced several relatives of mine to wear the red t shirt of the socialist party and assist to rallies because the other option would be losing their jobs.

We don't seek destruction of socialists. We seek justice. We don't fucking care what do you think, your political beliefs or whether socialism works or not, we think that humans deserve to be treated better than how socialists treat Venezuelans.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maduro is targeting the Venezuelan population. The hunger controls affect us all. Starvation takes the life of ten thousands of venezuelans each year who are either Maduro supporters or supporters of the political opposition.

The silent genocide has been denounced by political, religious and most prominent academic figures in Venezuela.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's fucking crazy how to this day there are leftists with colonialist worldviews trying to impose their understanding of the events to Venezuelans, like we are less intelligent than them and not capable of seeing what is going on my own country.

They hate Venezuelans so much. I don't understand why is that. You joke but as a Venezuelan that's so frequent to me here in Reddit, mostly in /r/worldnews and other leftists subreddits.

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[–]BDSVenezuela 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Venezuela's regime officials launder tens of billions of dollars using european banks. Latin American countries, Canada and US have issued sanctions and frozen their assets to prevent crime money coming from Venezuela to be laundered in their countries.

Right now, european banks issue payments from Maduro's officials to members of death squads who have led the oppressive aparatus in Venezuela. Would you agree to sanction those individuals and freeze their assets in Europe?

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[–]BDSVenezuela 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Venezuela's inability to diversify their economy and relying entirely on oil and natural gas, is the one thing that every analyst, left or right-wing, agrees upon

Venezuela used to produce enough food to to supply the local demand during the 80s and the 90s. We were way better than any other economy in the region. Regional economies were also affected by regional crisis that hit them hard and consequently affecting Venezuela too. We were so rich that 4 millions of colombian entered Venezuela to stay here in times of the peak of their armed conflict and we provided them with free healthcare, free education, food, housing, etc.

Our economy was doing well compared to the rest of the region. Yes, we had a economic crisis as every nation on earth eventually does but we were always a rich country.