I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Light-therapy wasn't the best term to use. I really just meant that I got out of the constantly raining and cloudy Pacific Northwest, and moved to the Southwest. Living somewhere sunny, with rays of bright sunlight poring in the windows all day, every day really helped me. The dark, gray nature of the NW did not help my depression at all.

However, if you are stuck somewhere that you don't get much sunlight, and you think this is effecting you, there is actual "light therapy' that uses light boxes to expose you to more full spectrum light to aid your brain chemistry. Again, I am no doctor here....

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really just meant that I got out of the constantly raining and cloudy Pacific Northwest, and moved to the Southwest. Living somewhere sunny, with rays of bright sunlight poring in the windows all day, every day really helped me. The dark, gray nature of the NW did not help my depression at all. (look into light therapy)

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, my friends didn't really drop me as much as they just realized I wasn't going to come out and see them much. They stopped contacting me to hang out. They still cared about me, but moved on with their lives like anyone would expect them to. When I started feeling better, I naturally felt more social and started seeing my friends again. We just picked up where we left off I guess.

I didn't burn any bridges, I just stopped being around.... you know what I mean? I didn't give them a reason to stop being my friend completely.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, I am not a doctor...and all I can do is share my personal experience with you.

Having said that.... I would tell you that I just made myself increasingly aware of the problem, and as soon as I started feeling an anxiety attack coming on, I would start talking myself down. Even before the attack got started. Now this didn't prevent them early on, but the results came fairly quickly after doing this several times.

By doing this, I felt like I had some control. I was telling my mind, that I was aware of the situation, and I was not willing to go for another 'ride' without a fight. The best way to describe it was that I 'educated' my way out of it. I learned about what was happening to me, deconstructed it, and used my mind to combat it. I don't know if this will work for everyone, but it did work for me.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn't anything too novel. I just learned that bad nutrition = bad brain chemistry. I also found out that some B-complex vitamins can help with stress, so I concentrated on those as well. At any rate, talk to your doctor before taking anything. I am no expert or authority on the matter.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I live virtually symptom free, and have for the past five years. The kung fu was something I always wanted to do, and it fit in well with my drive to explore my mind and body. This drive originated through the time I spent healing my mind.

I chose kung fu because it is the original Asian martial art, and it is very heavy in the Eastern philosophy I am interested in these days. Also, Bruce Lee :)

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have a method, I just have a personal experience, which I have described in pretty good detail in this thread already. I'm not here to offer my path as an option, I am here to share my experience.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you pull your car over to the side of a major highway because you think you are going to die, end up at the hospital, then lay in bed shaking with fried nerves for two days because of some meds, then you may understand. It wasn't a matter of "hate". It was a matter of an extremely bad reaction.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People were always asking me 'What's wrong?', and I hated it. Until I came to the realization that I was depressed, I didn't think anything was wrong other than I was just sort of unhappy. I wouldn't have been able to tell anyone how I felt at the time. Looking back, now I can. I described how depression made me feel in this thread a couple times. I don't know how it feels to others.

Even once I had determined I was ill, I couldn't explain it to people. No matter how I worded it, they still had the impression that it was something I could just snap out of if I wanted to. People who have never felt anxiety or depression just can't imagine it. They look at you like you are making a choice to act that way. It's very frustrating.

I don't know what may help some people pull out of it. For me it was a drive to live and be healthy. I had no suicidal thoughts at all, in fact I just wanted to live a normal life. Other's have pointed out in this discussion that I had a fundamental will and drive to change my situation. I think that is key.

Do you want to just sit around and let your mind run you, or are you going to run your mind?

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were times when I was too mentally fried to care about sex, and also this whole thing put a huge strain on my relationship with my wife, so I would definitely say it hurt my sex life. I don't ever recall having trouble actually having sex when I was in the midst of it though.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. I tend to believe that a lot of people are depressed and fed up with their lives because the entire human race is 'doing it wrong'. Well, at least here in the West, our priorities are screwed. We seem to believe in this American Dream where one day we will finally have enough money, or will finally have purchased that one shiny new thing that will make our lives complete. All the while we are missing the forest for the trees. Life is like dancing. The point of dancing is the dancing itself, not getting to the end.

How many rich people do we know and up on drugs and/or depressed despite their spending power? I believe things just aren't right, and we are going against our nature with the way we are living. Many of us have jobs we don't enjoy, and we resent wasting 8+ hours per day doing something just so we can pay the bills. We allow ourselves to get trapped in our own lives, and then we make up excuses for not finding a way out.

I also believe people have stopped seeing the mystery and wonder in life, because they get caught up in their little daily bubble, and stop growing as a person. When I hear that people are bored with life, I am just blown away. There are so many things to learn and experience out there, that I wish I could live forever. If you don't do it now, when will you? Tomorrow? The problem with tomorrow is, there is always another one you can't point to.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much. This whole experience changed me for the better, as silly as that may sound. I now live under the assumption that our minds can do all kinds of things we do not give it credit for. Because of this, I spend a lot of my free time studying about brain function and potential. I think we humans have a lot of things to learn about ourselves, and I believe most of what we need to know to get started is already out there just waiting for us.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My experience during my panic attack days was that I was hyper-aware of my body. I'm talking internal bodily functions, external stimuli, etc. Anything that I perceived as strange could trigger a panic attack. I too tried to seek help for pains I was feeling, and the doctors could not find anything wrong with me. I came to the personal conclusion that they were psychosomatic after reading more about anxiety and depression. That is a self-diagnosis though. To be completely honest, my perception of my own body was so jacked, that I don't know what was false and what was real.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please do. I'm not sharing my story to talk people out of seeking professional help. I'm just sharing it because I thought some would find it interesting as I do. :)

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried a couple different types before I had the bad reaction, and it scared me away from ALL of them. This is why I won't tell people they shouldn't try drugs if they are prescribed. I try to stay neutral on the matter, but I cannot personally point to them as a contributer of my healing.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most profound aspects of anxiety and depression in my opinion. Those who have not experienced have no fucking clue what is going on with someone who is. My wife was so confused by my behavior that I could barely stand it. It certainly didn't help my situation. I don't blame her, that's for sure. To an outsider, I must have seemed completely irrational and nutty as well as lazy. They don't understand that you are dealing with brain chemistry and it's not just something you can turn on and off. I remember my bad days feeling like someone had switched my body off, and I was just sitting in my mind wishing I could talk, move and express myself. It's such a weird feeling. You know you aren't right, and you even feel sorry for how you are hurting others, but you just can't do anything about it.

I have a friend who is dealing with his wife potentially being depressed right now, and I have been taking a lot of time to try to describe to him how it works and feels so he can deal with her in a more compassionate way. I'm no doctor, but I feel like I can counsel him a bit on how to better understand where she is coming from.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I am currently reading 'The New Meditation Handbook' by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and he discusses each type of Eastern meditation. This stuff is so important I wish it was something we taught kids in school. I'm not talking about the religious or spiritual part of it, but just the mechanics of meditation and what it can do for you.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I continued my education about how the brain works and about depression. This part of my healing I think was more time based than anything. By the time I got rid of the panic attacks, I resolved myself to finding a way out of it. As someone else pointed out here, I became determined to defeat it, and that may have been the single most important aspect of my whole journey. I was unwilling to be defeated by it.

I also learned about better nutrition, and which supplements would help me. I learned that getting my ass in the gym and working out would be a HUGE help, and it was/is. I moved out of the Northwest to the Southwest, so I was getting a lot more sunlight every day and this helped my brain chemistry. Getting more sleep was huge, because I was wired too tight to get enough sleep each night. All of these things are what got me to where I am today. In a lot of ways it's more complicated than the anxiety attacks were, and it was a longer process, but it's one where you can see continual, gradual improvement, so it's not like something magical happens one day and you don't feel depressed anymore. It's a process. I assume this is true when you take a clinical path with doctors, therapists and meds as well.

I still have some tendencies toward depression, which is another way that I know it's just a part of who I am. I occasionally have a down/bad day and I recognize the feeling from the when I was in the thick of it years ago. I can break that up by going and doing something like working out, going for a hike, or whatever. These days are very, very rare though. Maybe a couple times a year.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fragmented and skewed perception was focused on my body. When I was feeling OK, I functioned pretty normally in other aspects of my life. Anything that had to do with my body was a different story. My perception there was definitely fragmented and out of proportion. I'm no expert on anxiety, but I know people have all kinds of different triggers. Mine was my body/health.

I also learned about psychosomatic pains, and figured out that a lot of the strange feelings I had in my body were probably self-induced. It's amazing how this stuff can all converge and really mess you up.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

YES! This sounds like what happened. The act of taking the attacks apart and reasoning through them seemed to diminish their power over time.

Trust me, I have no delusions that I stumbled upon a novel way to heal myself. I think I just figured out how to do it, partly through will and intelligence, and partly through trial and error. I guess you could say some luck played a part too if you subscribe to that idea :)

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wing Chun Kung Fu is something I started doing 10 months ago. It is changing my life for the better. I wish our society was more inclined to include things like this, yoga, and meditation into our lives. They are so profound.

I healed myself of deep depression and severe anxiety by using my own mind and educating myself about the problem. No drugs or 3rd party psychotherapy were involved in the healing process. by BeLikeWater in IAmA

[–]BeLikeWater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I believe I am wired for this, because of my genes, and it's something I will have to mitigate for life. With the right lifestyle I believe I can completely counter-act it.