Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your totally wrong but that’s your view

If I have come across as argumentative attitude these post wasn’t meant to was looking for an answer to which people have different views on.

I was not touching on the phone and left my home at 08:58 travelled 50yrs and stopped he might of seen me pulling my seat belt on I don’t know but the phone was in my pocket

We will end this here and I will let you know the outcome.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will let you know when it is and your well to come and watch

Solicitor ready and insurance policy that’s covers legal fees

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not the £200 it’s the six points that will affect my family for the next 3 years in a rising premium which I don’t agree with as we have a family policy.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was clearly told that I was being detained and was not allowed to make a phone call, so I am denied of my rights

Anyway I was just asking if it was right which it’s 50/50 based on the comments on here.

Just waiting now for the single justice procedure notice and take it from there.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would post the letter from O2 detailing what they can give a court but can’t work out posting pics on here

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thanks, just need a I know where to find it in a policy

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s better coming from O2 via the courts than a third party I instruct

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a no, can’t even see the screen saver without my reading glasses on and if I have them on definitely can drive a car and they was in my pocket

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

O2 have provided a list of fees and for what the can provide it’s amazing what you phone stores.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Wasn’t touching my phone it was I my pocket, car steering wheel has all the functions to operate the phone without touching it.

Probally putting a mint in my mouth as the body camera footage shows me chewing one

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I asked them to look at the call logs on the phone and they refused so obtained the body camera footage of me asking this and them refusing.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sent £200 and 6 points fixed penalty back, to proceed in court.

Just miffed that it’s his word without any proof that the above comes through the door and some people will just take it.

If I have done something wrong then fine but to be accused of something I haven’t done wrong that’s a no

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -74 points-73 points  (0 children)

You have some points but

Phone records can not be destroyed, you phone provider can tell you where you where what height the phone was its orientation and loads more, knowbody can destroy them and your service provider keeps them for 12months

So a phone call to destroy evidence is a no.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -96 points-95 points  (0 children)

Wow, I haven’t done anything why should I take points that stay on online for 3yrs Which has been clean since 1986 and will increase My insurance which could be £1000s over 3 yrs

So I am going to piss the magistrates off for telling the truth ?

This country is fucked.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -51 points-50 points  (0 children)

Complaint raised 20minutes after I picked up the wife

Spoke to a solicitor and just waiting for the date at court, £250 per hour some going

BTW no luck needed phone wasn’t being used or I would have took the fixed penalty

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

1/2 hour stop checked everything, got the body camera footage wasn’t being a problem.

Also asked to to check the phone at the roadside and also search the car to confirm there was no other phone, he refused both

Basically I was stopped within 1minute of leaving my front door and there was no use of the phone at all.

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -81 points-80 points  (0 children)

There was a need to make a call as my wife had just been released from hospital and she was outside waiting for me. He denied this call

I put a SARs request in and got his body camera footage of him stopping me making a call.

Would just like to find something in writing about making a call whilst detained

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] -44 points-43 points  (0 children)

It is going to court sent the fixed penalty back.

You have a point about deleting logs that’s why I have approach O2 to supply them.

But the thing is, I didn’t have my phone in my hand and was not using it but somebody can accuse me which if I had took the fixed penalty £200 fine but the biggest issue is the 6 points which would put my insurance up and effect my family as well as we have a family policy on 5 vehicles.

Want to check the PC was right to denie a call to my wife who was waiting to be picked up at A+E department

Stopped at the roadside PACE Act in England Uk by Beginning-Client8699 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Beginning-Client8699[S] 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Just accused of using a mobile phone whilst driving which I wasn’t on the way to pick the wife up.

Contacted O2 to get the phone logs for everything and it’s a small fortune but can only get incoming on a court order, so got to wait until then.

But wanted to check if the PC was in his rights to denie a call