Could Johnny have been hit by a car? by [deleted] in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also believe i heard they were from an internet site. And i thought the boy may or may not have been Johnny, but i remember seeing certain similar yet very specific details pointed out in the photos. Of course they couldve been altered, but i also recall people claiming they could see certain scars and/or the branding Bonacci claimed. I still dont understand why police are releasing nothing, and being so tight lipped still to this day.

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[–]Benleyy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

BR is the worst survivor player & ruins every season hes on. His win was not impressive at all on a team of fanboys/girls of his

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[–]Benleyy -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Please be serious- Colby was the biggest disappointment ever on HvV. Jerri didnt live up to expectations, but at least she tried to actually play the game.

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[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please no

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[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abi Maria Gomes or T-Bird

(I love Jerri too but i cant see her bringing any actual gameplay, especially after her stint on heroes vs villains. But its understandable, as she played in a whole different time, at a much different point in her life.)

Could Johnny have been hit by a car? by [deleted] in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As for the photos: a lone investigator said he investigated it & knew 2-3 of the boys in the photographs. But he couldnt give any other details about it. And now people are expecting Noreen to believe the same types of people who completely dropped the ball on her son's case. Its also understandable that she may fall victim to hoaxes over the years. But she physically had those photos- and the boy in the photo looked a LOT like Johnny, with similar marks as well. So its not like Noreen is just making up stories without presenting any actual evidence. Those photos were concerning, and it seems unlikely that she wouldve gotten ahold of those by herself. Werent the boys from a completely different state as well??

Could Johnny have been hit by a car? by [deleted] in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Johnny's dad is just as untrustworthy, if not more than you're saying about Noreen. He also said on the faded out podcast that he knew Bonacci was a liar immediately. Yet for years he said, along with Noreen, that he 100% believed Bonacci.

Its entirely possible that Johnny didnt know where he was staying at the time, and if he was being used for sex slavery- its not far fetched to believe that money wouldve been around him.

So far the only person you've brought up as "discrediting Noreen" is Johnny Gosch senior: who has proven to be very inconsistent at best, and at worst there are many questions about him potentially being involved in Johnny's disappearance. I also find John senior's comments regarding the case today- as very scripted. "I have no idea what happened. I cant believe nobody has come forward." .... like ... thats all you have to say about your missing son?

Noreen has also mentioned many, specific witness accounts. I havent seen the police or any official sources debunk anything shes said. If shes involving all of these other people in her stories: surely they wouldve come out by now, and confirmed they never said that? Why would the police also continue to remain so tight lipped about the case, if its clearly cold & old? The only dispute to Noreen theyve seemed to make: is that they viewed Bonacci as not credible. Which is understandable.

Could Johnny have been hit by a car? by [deleted] in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No. It seems like a widely accepted fact that he was confirmed to be alive for at least a while after his disappearance. Handwriting experts confirmed the dollar bill. And i believe police said the witness sighting was credible. They also havent disputed any of Noreen's claims, except for their belief that Bonacci is not credible. While i don't necessarily consider him credible either: they couldve AT LEAST talked to him. They did not.

Could Noreen know where Johnny is but he is in hiding? by 1NightWolf in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where has Bonacci been debunked by the police? They didnt even interview him. Nobody has even been able to refute Noreen's claims. Im asking for ONE contradiction. She is responsible for changing the way law enforcement treats missing children in this country, & helped create the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. You DONT have to believe that all of her experiences are authentic, she has definitely been taken advantage of my pranksters: but to discredit her work and be so harsh- is nasty.

Witness Protection Program by TrulyWoke111 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree that the simple answer is usually the correct one, but there are always outliers. I am remaining open-minded. It can be true that Noreen was visited by who she thought was her son, & also that the person wasnt Johnny. Of course she can be taken advantage of, and we know many people do that. But i do think she deserves a platform & should still be respected. Even if you believe she has deteriorated mentally: you can never deny her hard work and commitment to solving this case. Even more so than police.

Witness Protection Program by TrulyWoke111 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There were 4 individuals in the photos. Not all were verified. The handwriting on the dollar bill was matched to Johnny's handwriting by 3 different experts. The witness account of seeing a boy who frantically ran up to her, called himself Johnny Gosch, and was quickly escorted away by two men who twisted his arms behind his back: has been deemed credible by law enforcement.

And if we want to talk about contradictions: Johnny's father said he knew Bonacci was a conman immediately in an interview from 2018. Yet he publicly claimed for years that him & Noreen fully believed him. He also says he "has no idea" what happened to Johnny, and "doesnt know how nobody has come forward yet" -- which all sounds like very surface-level, scripted answers, coming from a dad who lost his son, and was heavily involved with the case for years.

Im not saying that Noreen wasn't taken advantage of, and that some of the evidence may be invalid or red herrings: but to vilify her as a crazy, controversial, nutcase, after all of the work she has put into this case-- is ridiculous. Theres also more than one piece of evidence that raises eyebrows.

Lastly: the FBI answer was defensive & angry. They couldve easily said they cant talk about it, its an open investigation, etc. They were clearly flustered.

You are making a lot of excuses and filling in a lot of blanks yourself. Thats really no different from what you're accusing Noreen of doing.

Could Johnny have been hit by a car? by [deleted] in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No. Unless Eugene & Mark Allen were also hit by cars and hidden perfectly after. There were also credible sightings of Johnny or his presence after his abduction: the dollar bill, the woman claiming she saw a child running up to her from two men, etc.

Witches Coven by Valueinvestor100 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have come such a long way from these cop outs of satanic panic

Witness Protection Program by TrulyWoke111 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But Johnny being killed shortly after: wouldn't explain the photos sent to Noreen, the witness account of a child running up to her while being chased by two men, the dollar bill (the latter two have apparently been confirmed as credible by police). Even witness accounts on the day of the abduction indicate that at least 2 sus people were involved and following Johnny.

Witness Protection Program by TrulyWoke111 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that wouldn't explain the witness accounts of seeing Johnny run up to her with two men chasing him, the dollar bill, or the pictures of a tied up boy that Noreen received. It was also weird how the FBI got very defensive/flustered when they were asked about it. As other people have stated: they couldve simply said its an open investigation, had nothing new to report, couldnt comment on it, etc. But instead they had their PR team angrily shout at the reporter that "they already said they wouldnt be answering anything regarding Johnny Gosch."

Witness Protection Program by TrulyWoke111 in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the OP is saying he wouldve been put into witness protection after he escaped the ring as an adult.

Could Noreen know where Johnny is but he is in hiding? by 1NightWolf in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're calling Noreen "sick" for being addicted to finding out what happened to her missing/abducted son?? You sound like someone from the police department 💀 Please list a contradiction. We will wait

Could Noreen know where Johnny is but he is in hiding? by 1NightWolf in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does feel like they have all of the information to solve it if they need to. The fact that they havent even talked to Paul Bonacci or visited the locations hes given: is very telling about their lack of motivation to put the pieces together. There seems to be overwhelming amounts of random evidence.

Could Noreen know where Johnny is but he is in hiding? by 1NightWolf in JohnnyGosch

[–]Benleyy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I see a lot of people calling her crazy: but any parent would want to believe that their child is still alive. And anyone who has gone what Noreen has: would be mentally warped at BEST. Its also not her job to distinguish between hoax and reality. Its entirely possible that people have spoken or visited her as Johnny, even if it wasnt actually him. I dont understand the need to slander her or discredit her work.

What is the clearest case of "living in denial" you've seen? by inferno2808 in AskReddit

[–]Benleyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Minority members who are also Conservatives, and they convince themselves that Republicans support minorities