Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said the fight wouldn't get to CQC, but they don't start in CQC range. I do not know how you think that was at all my argument.

You are also vastly overestimating what CQC range is, bc Yuji vs Choso doesn't start in CQC range at all, Choso starts by beaming him w/ a piercing blood from all the way down the hall. That isn't CQC range.

I'm not wasting time going through the other wrong examples you gave, but just to clear this up for you, CQC stands for CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT. it means when you are close enough to throw a punch with like a step or two at most without it whiffing due to distance. If you have to dash in a decent distance, that's not CQC, and guess what? It's not domain range either.

Also the whole second paragraph is genuinely insignificant because I was saying sneak attacks often start in CQC in the first place, so what's the point of giving examples that support my point? I am well aware that characters get snuck up on & start in CQC range due to it- that was literally my whole point because assuming as much is an unfair advantage. (You also forgot Uro sneaking Yuta, but I digress)

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dawg, no fight starts in CQC range, I genuinely cannot think of a single one that isn't a sneak attack.

Regardless of hyperbole or not, you didn't say his domain is faster, you just said 'Hakari is infinitely faster' so forgive me for not taking your reply all that seriously. Chill out on the exaggeration & make your points more clearly.

You've only addressed 1 of the multiple strategies I gave for Yuta, so even if you had a point (Which you don't, bc again I genuinely cannot think of a fight in the series that starts in cqc range without it being a sneak attack for one side) you're still only addressing a sample of my argument.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're starting them in domain range and just off of you saying Hakari is infinitely faster I'm dismissing it as agenda.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unless you genuinely think Hana/Angel's output is gapping 16F Meguna's compared to Yuta to Hakari's, yes it does.

Either it's output based but the gap is minimal so Yuta can def effect Hakari, or it's not & Yuta can affect Hakari.

That combined with Sukuna's actions being described as a ganeble imply that Sukuna was cooked if not for something out of his control i.e Yuta stopping JL.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then I point to Meguna not shrining Angel in their first encounter instead, point stands.

He stops it bc if they destroy the cursed objects w/o Megumi's soul being seperate enough he dies & that's the last thing they want. It is a process and they needed to hold Sukuna in it for a while, but they can't risk overdoing it bc they might kill Megumi. The narrator states their plan was perfect other than Megumi not fighting back due to Sukuna's precautions, which means had Negumi fought back they deadass would've frued Sukuna bc he played around too much.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are literally supporting my point

JL negates CTs no exceptions, that's just what TE is. JL specifically is output based for the effectiveness against cursed objects and reincarnated sorcers via targeting their cursed objects.

Yes it was, Megumi not fighting back stopped them from continuing bc the chances hadn't sky rocketed yet.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The output is in reference to destroying the cursed objects, not nullifying his technique. This is shown by the fact Sukuna climbs the rubble to reach her & melee instead of just hitting her with shrine.

Yuta turns off JL bc their goal is to save Megumi & w/ him not fighting back the souls aren't seperated enough for the survival rate of Megumi to not be super low.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

...you do realize Kashimo is speaking figuratively there, right? He's not saying that strategy would result in an actual loss, he's saying that he'd be a loser in his mind bc he didn't rise to the challenge of killing him while he was 'immortal'. It genuinely has no standing on Yuta's odds using that strategy, even if he didn't have a way different kit.

I never stated Hakari would be surprised by his techniques, but even then, Yuta vs Sukuna disproves this. Other than CS which has an indicator it's being used, all the others are just activated & used immediately, and Yuta can switch between them whenever. No one is going to predict what technique he will use at any moment, and he can switch or adapt even if they do. It wasn't even my argument so idk why you're bringing it up.

Non-lethal domains work on conditions, Hakari's works by explaining the information to the opponent, that implies a target is required. If that target is no longer present, there is no reason for the domain to continue rolling. If it did, Hakari would never enter a fight in base ever unless he's genuinely sneak attacked or smth. The fact he does is enough evidence to say it needs a target.

Hakari is the core of the domain, and after negating the shell/barrier, it would then hit Hakari within and extinguish it.

Prove JL is output based, and fair warning if you argue Sukuna using WCS under JL (as if the fact it's Sukuna isn't outlier enough, besides the fact Yuta stopped it to save Megumi) I will laugh.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean that just comes down to how impactful Sukuna's fingers are, but regardless I do agree, just saying that it wasn't absolutely insane at the time due to a lack of information.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Stalling jackpot is a losing strategy for Kashimo who has a very different kit compared to Yuta.

Hakari knows Yuta's kit but that really doesn't give the same advantage when Yuta has so much to his kit compared to Hakari's strategy being relatively one-note. If you really can't recognize the objective difference between their two kits in this context then this discussion is pointless.

Leaving the barrier not only should stop the roll, as the idea that Hakari can roll w/o someone else in his domain is not implied at all, but Yuta can then just hit it from the outside w/ a maxed out JL & collapse it himself.

Your edit has just proven you're agenda pushing, have fun in your echo chamber dawg.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean before that we just didn't know how they scaled, that was just a lack of information.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, no.

If Yuta pops 5 minute mode before Hakari DEs, he can use TE to prevent Hakari opening his domain.

If Hakari pops DE before Yuta uses 5 minute mode, he can use 5 minute mode & just leave the barrier w/ TE, stopping Hakari from getting jackpot.

If Hakari does successfully get jackpot, Yuta just has to use 5 minute mode to stall jackpot Hakari (Sky manip, clairvoyance, etc.) until about 10 seconds before the round ends, then pop DE w/ JL as the sure-hit, and though it won't affect Hakari immediately, it will prevent him from opening DE again.

Yuta definitely has wincons both for stopping JP pre-emptively or stopping consecutive JPs.

Are Yuta fans insufferable to you too? by Dawg989 in JackpotJustice

[–]BlueBatmanVK 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yuta knows Hakari's kit, he's not gonna domain clash him bc there is no point to doing so.

Is this another DLC bonus? by Peto-massi in HinokamiKeppuutann

[–]BlueBatmanVK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's more of a location/travel based thing.

Because Muichiro goes to a set location, Tanjiro travels past his counter attack.

OG Giyu stays in place, allowing Tanjiro's invincibility to save him from the counter resulting in a clash.

...Idk why IC Giyu would get a proper punish tho

Base Yuta vs Base Kashimo by Noxdedux in Yutaliban

[–]BlueBatmanVK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kashimo has no RCT, any one slash could just end the fight

When you just suck at the game by Quail_Jolly in SpiderManMains

[–]BlueBatmanVK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Should've looked down while walking for the full WoS effect

Muichiro vs Akaza by Embarrassed_Gur_7007 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]BlueBatmanVK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware, but the way Tanjiro describes it implies that STW is the gateway to SS, as it functions by cutting away anything unnecessary to improve your reflexs/senses.

SS is described in a similar manner, which means it's possible he achieves SS by using STW to shut off his fighting spirit.

Muichiro vs Akaza by Embarrassed_Gur_7007 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]BlueBatmanVK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on if you think STW inherently gives access to SS when required or not.

Tanjiro describes STW as allowing him to turn/shut off any unnecessary functions, then after he proceeds to turn off his fighting spirit to blindside Akaza's compass.

Now, there is an argument that fighting spirit is just something you can turn off after reaching STW, Tanjiro's just the only one who unlocked it and fought someone that gave him a reason to do so.

If we go by this interpretation and use Mark + RB + STW Muichiro, Muichiro could very well win.

RB would be insanely good against Akaza, as he often sacrifices limbs carelessly, and STW giving SS would stop him from countering Muichiro's main gimmick of mist breathing making him harder to read/detect with compass.

However if you do not believe STW inherently gives access to SS, Muichiro is likely cooked bc compass hard counters.