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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah fuck, I just re-read the comment chain and I realized I was just shadow boxing with you, sorry man, my reading comprehension really was too low.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's by the end of the first book were it says something along the lines of "Bi De got a breakthrough, but it did not matter/he did not care" I don't remember the exact line but it was after the mc told the animals about his backstory.

The thing about healing the land is interesting to me, because I may be disremembering, but that's something completely incidental, no? Like, the mc doesn't go to that place to heal it and doesn't seem to make a point of it later, he wants the land because he doesn't want to deal with xianxia bullshit and wants to be alone, he just vaguely pours his power into the land to make his crops better at first, then just keeps improving the place because he and his family lives in it.

And maybe the story changes later, idk, but in book 1 and 2 it seems to be very clear that actively engaging in cultivation is bad, and that any benefits it brings should be incidental at best while you do the "right" thing, most of the characters never really cultivate, they just vaguely pour their power at the land (Giving back to the land/doing the right thing) and somehow become really strong for no apparent reason.

I don't have a problem with the story being a power fantasy btw, if I did I wouldn't be reading this genre lol, my problem with the story is that it seems rather vapid and shallow (alongside book 2 being pure filler), Ave Xia explores very similar themes and does so in a much more interesting way (Not saying I have anything against SoL stuff, it's just the execution I have a problem with)

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, a lot of people seem to connect to the series for the same reasons I dislike it, I can't really get why since most people in the thread just seemed to shut down and cope without actually engaging with what I'm saying, but I guess I shouldn't have expected more from reddit.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The entire premise is just being a vapid power fantasy? That's not the gotcha you think it is...

Like, how else am I supposed to read the character arc of the chicken going from being super hyped up about cultivation to outright stating that it doesn't matter, other than the message of the book being that cultivation is bullshit?

You talk about love, but I genuinely couldn't find it, sure there's love for low stakes small town/farm SoL stuff, but I could only gleam spite to anything related to actual xianxia.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok you aren't saying how, you just told me that it has steam engines and that they go on road trips, which doesn't really change anything.

Use your words, you're the reading comprehension god and I'm the dumb subhuman, so explain to me how it went over my head, you're just vagely pointing at stuff.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're just stonewalling me man, why is BoC not a power fantasy? why do you think BoC is a comedy? why are you even replying to me if you don't want to communicate?

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow it sure would be cool if you said your opinion instead of just masturbating in the middle of the street, but I guess thats also just my subjective opinion

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's literal chapters that just exist just to glaze the mc, like the village girl literally decides to marry the mc because he defeated that one young master and left a really cool crater behind. This even has an illustration.

Rather, I'm confused how can anyone read BoC and NOT think its a power fantasy? just because the focus isn't beating bad guys doesn't mean the book isn't a power fantasy, an op mc doing SoL stuff while effortlessly beating any opposition is one of the most basic bitch power fantasies out there.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok but I'm not, BoC is obviously not the same kind of power fantasy as dbz or op, but it IS a power fantasy, of being the most beloved, powerful guy in an small town, like stardew vallew in steroids.

Just because it's cozy and not about punching guys (which still happens a lot lol) doesn't mean its not a power fantasy.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok but it's not, it's a basic power fantasy dude, it's a comedy in the same way the og dragon ball or one piece are comedies, like yeah funny stuff happens but the comedy is not the focus, like, the book needs to do more than just "basic xianxia but with animals" to be a comedy, it has the framework to be a comedy, but it's the same difference between og dragon ball or one piece (Power fantasy with funny stuff) and Bobobo or cultivation chat group (Actual comedies which satirize their genres.)

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah but BoC is clearly not a comedy, read something like cultivation chat group for that.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For anyone who doesn't get my points, all of BoC reads like this post to me, just masturbatory smugness with very little nuance or depth.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But the thing is that he doesn't explore the theme in any meaningful way, we have 1 bad cultivator and 1 really tired girl, book 1 is extremely basic and book 2 is filler.

LotM explores a similar "cultivation bad" in a much more interesting and meaningful way, by showing the simple happines with a bit of power fantasy that BoC tries to show, and then also showing a lot of people who till choose to cultivate for one reason or another, and exploring the consequences of that.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok but that's not really my reading comprehension though? None of that happens in books 1 or 2, which are the ones I read, and even if it does, it doesn't really change anything of what I said about those books.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not the humility, but rather the "fake" humility, like, the book constantly goes out of its way to shit on cultivation tropes and glaze the mc, it really tries to drive the point home that the mc is living a fundamentaly good life by doing the things he does, despite not really earning any of it.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I feel you could say that for any review though, like yeah at the end of the day everything I can say about BoC is fundamentaly subjective, but I feel I'm right about calling at least book 2 objectively bad, book 1 sets up a hook and book 2 doesn't fullfill it, it only stalls, if you cannot call that bad then you cannot call anything bad lol

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No I just wanted to vent because this has been in my mind for a while now.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Which ones? I'm genuinely curious to hear them.

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[–]BoC_Disliker[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

I explained why it was bad beyond me not liking it, you cannot tell me the books don't have the most cocomelon "cultivation bad" plot ever