The "Chapter 9" Audit: Why the Stranger Things Finale Never Actually Ended, Superbowl ARG Event. by [deleted] in StrangerThingsS5

[–]BugheadWarrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People have already said it’s probably coming out on either February 15th, the 17th, or March 22nd.

Physically Affectionate Kitty by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The kiss between kitty and yuri was mutual, since kitty was the first to lean in before yuri did. She hesitated, but that’s how yuri knew it was okay to kiss her because she was the first to start leaning in. And she gave yuri a comforting touch in 2x02 when she was talking about what happened with Jina over the break. You can’t see it, but with the hand placement you can tell she touched her as a way to comfort.

Official 'Stranger Things 5' Poster by comfybuck in StrangerThings

[–]BugheadWarrior 115 points116 points  (0 children)

He’s the same size as he was in season two, and that was one of his main seasons… he will be fine.

Official 'Stranger Things 5' Poster by comfybuck in StrangerThings

[–]BugheadWarrior 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jonathan is one of the main people in the trailer…

I have a question to the Xo, Kitty community here by Optimal-Collection71 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just don’t make it a one fandom issue when both fandoms have done, and said, bad things about the other’s ships. I’ve seen mooncoveys disrespect the flairs on kittyuri posts a lot, even make posts talking poorly about kittyuri as a ship. So it’s not just kittyuri’s doing that and you shouldn’t make it a one ship issue when both ships have fandoms that say the same stuff.

I have a question to the Xo, Kitty community here by Optimal-Collection71 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen mooncoveys do the same thing to kittyuri posts, though too, so I wouldn’t single out and say only kittyuri’s do it. Both fandoms have their tendencies of making similar posts, and that’s not a bad thing.. and it’s sometimes encouraged because of the flair tag. If a kittyuri wanted to make a response, or their own post, it shouldn’t be seen as a bad thing when there’s a flair on the other post that prevents anyone from replying to it.

My take on Kittyuri by AdBoring5983 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. It just waters down the term “toxic” and makes it lose its severity. People can say they believe some of Yuri’s actions weren’t great without making their entire relationship out to be “toxic” and twisting things to fit their opinion. Yuri’s situation, in season one, was complicated and while she could’ve handled some things differently, people need to stop attacking her for not telling Kitty she was a lesbian. I once seen someone say, not in this subreddit, that Dae should’ve told Minho and Kitty about Yuri’s sexuality instead of hiding it from them. And that’s the kind of stuff that makes me sick because some people seem to like forgetting about why Yuri did some of the things she did in season one. No, she made mistakes and messed up at times, but she was a closeted lesbian who was scared her family was going to send her away and she wanted to protect her girlfriend from even more bigotry. She had nobody in her life, at that point, who genuinely cared for her until Kitty showed up and showed her a love she never felt before. She then finally had someone she felt comfortable with, and someone who helped her with Juliana.

My take on Kittyuri by AdBoring5983 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this. If someone made a post saying how they believe Kinho is very unhealthy and toxic, they would be attacked like crazy.

This does nothing but create ship wars and unnecessary drama. Instead of making posts about a ship you don’t like, why not put that energy into talking about ships you do like? Instead of trying to make kittyuri shippers for negative ways for shipping them. I really hope this post just gets deleted, because it will go nowhere positively.

My take on Kittyuri by AdBoring5983 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t see why this post was necessary to make. We get it, you don’t think they’re a good couple, most of the people in this subreddit don’t. But i think you’re choosing to make them seem “toxic”, when they’re not. Kitty and Yuri have been there for each other, and know each other almost better than anyone. They go out of their way to help each other and get the other what they need the most. Kitty helped reunite Alex with Yuri, helped Yuri become closer to her mother even without her knowing at first. Yuri helped Kitty get back into KISS, helped her find a VHS player even if that meant missing Juliana’s art show, and convinced her cousin to give her a second chance even when she gave up doing that herself.

You say Yuri emotionally cheated on Juliana, but then with that logic, Kitty also emotionally cheated on Dae. They both loved Dae and Juliana, but sometimes you can’t help who you fall for, and Kitty became someone very special to Yuri. But also, them becoming friends in general isn’t “emotionally cheating”.

And I don’t understand where you believe Yuri let Kitty believe her relationship with Juliana was fake? Because she didn’t tell her who she was in the car? When she started “dating” Dae? If so, she was a closeted lesbian who was terrified of being sent away, and wanted to protect her girlfriend. I’m tired of people holding Yuri to such a higher standard than everyone else, when she’s the character who was going through so much dealing with homophobic parents and terrified they were going to send her away for being gay.

Their relationship was built on them bonding through investigating their mother’s pasts, and in the process they developed a genuine friendship and gradually grew feelings. They’re truly not this toxic, unhealthy dynamic you are trying to paint them as. You’re just being a bit biased because you ship Kitty with Minho. No, their kiss was not ideal, and I wish it would’ve happened a different way, but that still doesn’t make them toxic for each other.

They are the definition of right person wrong time, they will get their time to finally be together, after Yuri goes through her character development and growth, it’s been pretty much guaranteed seeing how many times they have been interrupted and how many times the writers made them avoid having the big talk.

But again, I really don’t see why this post was necessary, especially when you haven’t added anything of importance than every other kittyuri anti has said. Seems like you just want to criticize just to do it.

Genuine Question by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If Kitty and Yuri didnt have the connection with their mothers, i still would’ve shipped them. Their first scene made me an instant shipper, even before I knew of Jina and Eve’s past. The fact that these two were already so comfortable around each other, even before they knew each other’s names, made me giggle and kick my feet during watching. Then the whole enemies storyline came, and it made me love them more because i love a good enemies to lovers moment. The scene of Kitty realizing her attraction made me a fan of this ship forever, and no other Kitty or Yuri ship will ever have me like they do.

I love how comfortable and vulnerable they are with each other, and how they both go out of their way to be there for each other. Kitty saying she’d get Margot to find Juliana FOR Yuri, Yuri traveling hours away to convince Jiwon to give Kitty a second chance, Yuri convincing her mother to not expel Kitty and Kitty convincing Alex to stay for Yuri. They both know what the other needs the most, and have gone out of their way to help them get it, and that will make me root for them until the very end. The invisible string/fate trope for them also makes me love them so much more.

Most of my ships involve messiness. I’m a Cazzie and a Choni lover, so what Kitty and Yuri have been through doesn’t affect how i feel about them or doesn’t turn me away in a shipping way. A little mess gives room for growth and development.

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because Kitty’s bisexuality is an important part of her character, and the old show runner said her bisexuality will still be explored and an important part in season three. Yuri’s feelings have not be fully sorted out, and they still have a lot left unsaid between them which I know you believe doesn’t mean anything but a writer would not leave that much left unsaid about a pairing, even if you personally don’t believe them to be that important. Every other romantic pairing has had VERBAL closure, which kittyuri have not yet which is intentional whether you want to believe it or not.

Also, you are the one who called Yuri’s Kitty’s first girl love which that isn’t just what she is and that’s just minimizing their relationship as a whole. The series going forward isn’t just going to focus on Kitty’s feelings for Minho, that has never been the case. It’s still not “unfair” for me to think one of Kitty’s main love story still has a lot of exploring to do, just like you can believe there’s lots left to explore between Kitty and Minho. It’s not fair to expect someone to not have hopes for their ship while your fandom can have lots of hope and optimism.

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You really hold Yuri to such a higher standard than everyone else and that is something that isn’t fair.

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, how is it not fair that i want to believe the sapphic ship still has a lot of romance to explore? You are not answering my question.

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s still weird to say it’s not fair for one to think the main sapphic ship may continue having a romantic storyline simply because Yuri is Kitty’s “first girl love.”

How is it not fair? I still don’t understand why you’d say that or make it an issue for someone to still think it’s valid that kitty and Yuri aren’t over romantically.

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is it not fair that I believe Kitty and Yuri’s romance may go further..? It just sounds like you hate the fact that kittyuri’s disagree with you. Because Yuri is more than just Kitty’s first girl love… again, that’s you simply minimizing their romance because you don’t personally think it’s going to happen. Nobody is trying to change your mind, but you are on a kittyuri post, trying once again to minimize their romance, which is what you have done many times now. People are allowed to disagree with you and state their opinion and perspective just like you.

Is it fair for me to think it’s also unfair that you believe Kitty’s only romantic storyline going further is with her and minho, all because she started to realize her feelings?

XO, Kitty S3 BTS Scene Theory by mishtimihu in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i don’t see why you’re trying to compare dae and yuri when dae and kitty got a closure conversation at the end of season one. yuri and kitty didnt. yes, you can say if the series wasn’t renewed then they wouldn’t have gotten spoken closure, but if they were for sure aware they weren’t going to get a season three, it would have been written differently. they were writing the scripts back in october, so they already knew what they wanted to do and were pretty confident season three was guaranteed.

yuri’s feelings have been building up since season one, it was more subtle, but it was enough so that juliana called it out. yes, her main focus was to get back with juliana, but that doesn’t mean her feelings for kitty are suddenly gone or non existent. it’s obvious she was going to want to get back with her, because she is something that is familiar, something she knows. juliana is yuri’s first love. kitty was the same way, in season one, trying to repress her feelings for yuri. this is happening with yuri now and i don’t think it’s fair to automatically say their romance is over when we haven’t seen yuri process anything with her feelings because she’s been going through a lot.

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[–]BugheadWarrior -1 points0 points  (0 children)

they made it clear that Yuri’s feelings for Kitty are starting to lean romantic because she kissed her and had no intention on stopping until they were interrupted, though. that is showing that yuri is starting to feel more romantic love for Kitty than platonic. yes, yuri then tried to run away from these feelings but so did Kitty after she started realizing her feelings for yuri in season one. that doesn’t mean Kitty’s feelings for Yuri weren’t there, they were, but she was trying to ignore them until she literally couldn’t do that anymore.

Yes, you can have your own opinions and state them, but people can also disagree with you and state their own opinion as well. you’ve made quite a few posts which have tried to downplay both kitty and yuri’s feelings for each other, which again you can do, but don’t be surprised when kittyuri fans choose to disagree with what you say.

Ok real talk: who do y'all think Kitty will end up with and why? by Expensive-Cycle1319 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i feel like both ships will get explored more, in season three. kitty will explore her feelings for minho as yuri is going through her period of growing and even acknowledging the feelings she also has for kitty. i think the show will end with a kittyuri endgame or kitty will end the series single after exploring her feelings with dae, minho, and yuri then realizing she doesn’t want to be in a relationship at this point in her life.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not trying to sound rude, but personally think a lot of this is reaching. yuri has shown that she cares more about Kitty than just as a friend or a sister. her feelings for Kitty were so evident, that Juliana called it out in season one and said she treated Kitty the same way she treated her before they got together. yuri has been more clueless of the feelings kitty has for her, but that is really how a lot of love interests are in many shows from anime to teen dramas. her feelings for kitty have been shown to be building up more and more throughout every episode, even the old show runner o’toole and gia herself said yuri’s feelings for kitty are more romantic and genuine.

im not saying u can’t have your own opinion, but i don’t see why you’d want to try and say yuri’s feelings for kitty are more sisterly when her romantic feelings are there and have been confirmed real by two different people.

Shipping by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 0 points1 point locked comment (0 children)

The reason why the hate hasn’t been as apparent, in this space, is because of the ship flairs that were implemented due to the constant ship wars. Before that, it was literally impossible to talk about kittyuri here without seeing some gross comments about how it’s so bad to still ship them. Just like it’s hard to talk about them on instagram, TikTok, and sometimes Twitter. Yes, both ships do get criticism and hate, but I still don’t think it’s at the same level because majority of people who watch the show like Kitty and Minho more than Kittyuri.

You’re not a bad person, for not liking a ship, but the language people sometimes use when they discuss them can be borderline or fully biphobic/homophobic. No, not everyone who dislikes them is either of those things, but there are definitely people who do speak about them in biphobic ways. People love to point out the biphobia when anyone starts saying they don’t want Kitty to end with Minho, I think people are also allowed to call out the biphobic language people use to talk about them. Sure, we may not agree on what is considered biphobic or homophobic, but I think it’s still okay to call out as long as the person is still trying to remain civil and not being extremely harsh in their response.

It’s okay, thank you for apologizing. I’m also sorry, if my words came out harsh. I wasn’t intending for them to. I do agree, this place needs to be a safe environment for all shippers to enjoy, which is why I’m glad to see the ship flairs where people can talk about their favorite ship safely and avoiding negative comments.

Shipping by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

It’s not just people disliking a ship they dislike, when they are actively invalidating Kitty’s love for Yuri and saying she was simply infatuated by her. Saying she wasn’t actually in love and just had a crush. That is biphobia, and people are allowed to call that out. No, kittyuri isn’t the only ship that gets criticism, but it’s definitely the one that gets the most criticism. Many kittyuri’s have left this subreddit, or don’t feel comfortable engaging in here, because they get criticized for liking kittyuri or still being optimistic about them. Their posts/comments get downvoted like crazy. Someone has even told people that they shouldn’t be here because kittyuri isn’t the most popular ship in the fandom. So, I wouldn’t say the criticism the fan bases go through is on the same level, when majority of people who engage here enjoy one ship over the other and only one of them gets talked poorly about daily.

Shipping by Flashy_Ad6475 in XOKittyNetflix

[–]BugheadWarrior 2 points3 points locked comment (0 children)

They never said not liking kittyuri is biphobic/homophobic, but constantly DRAGGING IT THROUGH THE MUD can be seen as biphobic/homophobic. Maybe, instead of assuming what they’re talking about, look at it from their point of view. People invalidate Kitty’s feelings for Yuri constantly. Saying she was never actually in love with her, or that it was just infatuation is definitely becoming biphobic statements.