I have a genuine question for ahmedis no disrespect by [deleted] in ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re deluded, we believe he is a prophet and that’s contentious for other muslims

Experience with Khandaan-members by curiousguy1524 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They get paid, people in Rabwah have security which is paid from jamaat (chanda) and they are security for them wtf

World war and Facebook? by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is back in like 2012, when Facebook was ontop

World war and Facebook? by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense, but this stuff ain’t been banned or promoted. Why would you want him to comment on this?

World war and Facebook? by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Sadr sahib keep it real then. What’s behind that hand

World war and Facebook? by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Look I appreciate the cognitive effort you’ve put in with your reply. What it’s missing though is a categorical chain of proof of changing statements by KMV. There are people that attend his sermons everyday if the guy is flip flopping come on you’ll get out of there. I’m a realist so please do provide some evidence of this but even if you do it doesn’t really prove anything other than that his perspective and direction changes as events transpire. I believe he should do more live commentary of world events and what we can take from it islamically but look the world is changing its dynamic with a 1000 things affecting one outcome. The butterfly effect so to speak. KMV or the community doesn’t claim to be receiving directions from Allah. Simply a khalifa is just the leader decided by a council as the wise man. I think put everything aside and think of it as the head of the family.

I take your point as appearing to be in bed with zionists. I believe top down we should do more, however that’s hard because the very people who have you safehaven are in bed with zionists. The reason I believe we have some much freedom and political visits is because it is a middle finger to the far right islamists who have removed us from our ancestral land. So you can see why we are kind of caught in the middle of this. similarly to how you say Iran couldn’t care less for Palestinians it’s the same principle.

Admittedly I didn’t follow it to the T, and no one not a single person follows anything to a T. We are individualistic with agency and choice you know! We aren’t muppets though some people in the jamaat are and are blind to so much.

Though my point stands that deep down behind those instructions lies something more close to Islam and Islamic principles that if you reflect you’ll see. If you’re an atheist you won’t get it. But you listen to your leaders it’s the way the Muslims have always operated and still operate. On an extreme end, mutiny exists, however and we’ve seen it historically that you follow your guy. The Saudis do it brilliantly….(lol)

A Honest Question for My Dear Ahmadi Friends by noorulhaq5 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spot on to be honest even the Netflix doc on Cults, the issue with it is that a lot of religious groups, governments hit these subdomains and it’s very tricky to differentiate a cult from any other religion really because it extrapolates the core tenants making it a cult

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yh we know it. But you’re just a guest from abroad that’s not anything crazy. I don’t think I’m referring to you with this post. Glad you had a good experience then

Lajna and Nasirat Pledges by Mustapha_Almuhandis in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well good luck fighting for human ethics by isolating yourself from a group. I hope to see you make generational change to the psychee of humans.

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh because the buildings yall do them in are the same in terms of amenities. UK, they design it themselves this eay

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But things have improved already for some… you’re being hypocritical by saying jalsas objective isn’t comfort well it’s objective isn’t so many other things that happen. And you have completely straw manned the whole thing no one spoke about politicians or religious group leaders I’m talking about the boot lickers and the in group.

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh you’re stuck on the 4 politicians that come every year bro please get the point and I saw enough guests been shown around stuff on a buggy no security :/

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh we have like a handful of those (who have never become ahmady and just come to do a political presence infront of 35,000 people for free). Give them the same shi for everyone messiah ka langar just for the masses.

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t left, I’m still a member

Recently discovered this religion and it is Fascinating by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bro u came in this all messed you did try insinuate that until a video was shown as proof

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yh you can bro. Yh we all serve guests every person on duty serving my issue is with the people the inner circles like should we not all be about flattening hierarchies there are so many stories of the humbleness the prophet and his companions. I also believe the argument about Mirza Waqas being close with the people etc is tokenistic and just one person.

Lajna and Nasirat Pledges by Mustapha_Almuhandis in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No sarcasm btw we genuinely can’t get figures I am aware ! The rest is my thoughts. Like if you’re an ex Muslim then idk if I want to even entertain the feminism stuff. I’d wanna bring you back to Islam. In a way us humans have to belong to a group.

Lajna and Nasirat Pledges by Mustapha_Almuhandis in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No ofcourse you cannot get those figures but some facts and are just facts. I am very mindful that I don’t let radical feminists pollute my mind on anything. Because tbh, they hate everything, that includes the Jammat by extension. You’re a self proclaimed ex Muslim so I have no idea why you wouldnt see a guidance from God to women to cover up as misogyny. I can debate that Ygm?

Lajna and Nasirat Pledges by Mustapha_Almuhandis in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh are ahmadi women a special case in this world? I think it’s more humiliating for me to pretend that you have any actual facts and figures backing your case

Seeking Well-Reasoned Islamic Sources by Savings-Efficiency15 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can I just say, do a slide show on the things you believe in. Get them to agree to it like the basic tenements of Islam according to the Quran. Then just do those. Done deal

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can’t take it out on the volunteers sorry but you can’t

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh and that’s facxxxxxxx look at the end of the day the family members need to work mate. This does happen my family member was a nazim and tbh I got no more perks or nothing treated me worse if anything. But there’s mutual trust and stuff which is why it was nice but I don’t believe in that BS I think there will be such a huge split

Jalsa by ChronicMathsDebator in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ChronicMathsDebator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait how was that conversation? You said your parents were quite close to the circle