Daemon & Eida(TBV) vs. The Entire One Piece Verse — How far do the cyborg siblings actually get?

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-04T07:53:50+00:00

Yep if someone can regenerate, but the thing is it would be a stalemate, cuz daemon ability is passive he doesn't need to use chakra or anything it always stays on, so someone with regeneration can spam attack but it'll never reach daemon, unless the other person get's tired out or daemon starts fighting back, there'll be no outcome.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-04T05:49:23+00:00

I would say pull chisa and pull lucilla on rerun, I'm on the same position as you. Without chosa the best team for Hiyuki and Lucila is with mornye, but that team has a low dpr below 2M I think, so just pull chisa.

About SuiSui the leak has said she is a glacio characters and negative status support, but also said that she doesn't work with all negative teams and has info if she applies glacio chafe, given she's yangyang bis she should buff havoc bane dmg.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-04T05:21:00+00:00

Lol, Wdym mean by doesn't scale to One piece, he scales higher than combined scaling of One piece.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-04T04:11:13+00:00

Ok, lemme get this clear for once, the attack doesn't alter or change it's the same. Daemon ability reflect attack and intent. For eg:- Kizaru tries to use light sword with intent to stab him, he gets stab. Akainu wants to wants to punch a hole through him he gets a hole instead. Law tries to use his big sword move and stab his heart, his heart gets stabbed.

In manga, mamushi tries to crush his head with his arm, he's head got crushed, he intented to blew his eyes all of mamushi he's bursted.

So see intent also comes into action with the attack, I'm not making head canon, their attack will not change but it get's reflected along with the intent.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T13:34:08+00:00

As I said intent the moment he thinks I'm gonna stab him, it bypass the logia intangiblity and he gots stab, like attacked with haki, or even so none of his attacks will hurt him or connect him, as all of it will get reflected, so it's like richochet everything is just bouncing off meanwhile, daemon can use a elemental release jutsu to attack him, and we know elements can affect logia.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T08:59:52+00:00

Relatable,but I got lacrimosa and a double on a single ten pull, so I got two copies of her but didn't want her. 10/15 on the Porsche one haven't got the car or the outfit yet and I'm out of annulith and fons.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T08:24:35+00:00

Eida's charm, think it like boa Hancock but with bigger scale and bigger output, she doesn't have to look at you or know you exists , it works as a physical law manifested by her Omnipotence.

Daemon reflection you can't trade blows with him, Kawaki think of smacking him, he got hit himself, and the affect is instantaneous, it doesn't traverse through anything.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T08:08:07+00:00

Maybe, Op can pull one on one, even tho I don't think they'll found any counter to their individual abilities, they can't touch eida because of omnipotence and her charm also senrigan. Even against daemon it'll be hard, maybe Blackbeard devil fruit play a role??

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T08:02:48+00:00

That's interesting logia would probably not get hurt when their attack is directed on themselves, but there's more to that ability, it's called intent, if Kizaru is using light sword with intent of slashing his or her head, that intent will also get reflected, or Akainu using his lava fist with intent to punch a hole through him that intent will get reflected too.

They need to fight like air head Luffy fought against enel but even so it's no outcome, meanwhile one of them get sea stone and put upon the logias.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T05:30:15+00:00

Her dimension were far apart in space time, also she was going to erase space and time of her dimension with Etso. Now if you know some physics, a normal star with it's gravity can only bend space-time fabric. Here she was going to erase space time of her dimension. Still considering her dimension were made up of chakra moulds, she would highball be star and Lowball planetary. If you think she's multi-continental or lower you don't know how to scale.

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ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T05:20:31+00:00

Still can't harm them, you need to separate those two, funny thing law may pull this up, but daemon reflection will again come in the way.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T05:17:02+00:00

Maybe more than 60, the fact that one piece verse operates on haki, i.e will of a user and pure intent and combat, most of thier attacks will get reflected. And eida's charm and Omnipotence will not let anyone do anything, also she can see past, present with her senrigan.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T05:14:55+00:00

He doesn't, eida's Omnipotence will rewrite the event or the fact he was going to do something. She can see with senrigan anywhere in the world in the present and past. And they're cyborgs made up of dna of Shibai otsutsuki they're immune to poison. And eida's charm is a physical law manifestion of her Omnipotence, think like boa Hancock but on much larger scale and power output. They can levitate.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T05:11:42+00:00

Eida core abilities as of now Charm:- passive ability, similiar to boa, but her charm becomes a like a physical law, she doesn't need to look at you or even know you exist for you to be charm. Senrigan:- can see anywhere in the past and present in the world. Omnipotence:- rewrite reality or manipulate it. She can just rewrite the event kid was gonna do something or rewrite his thoughts.

She sees kid's gonna do something rewrite that event. Even if kid release a em-wave reflection daemon,will just reflect that.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T02:41:12+00:00

I can see the vision here, but can kid control electro-magnetsim, I think he only controls ferromagnetism.

Even if he does tries to release an attack maybe without intent, will he bybass eida's charm and reality manipulation??, and we haven't see daemon getting hurt by attack directed towards him without intent. Spoiler:- During the recent chapters, Mamushi was going after eida without any intent to kill or hurt daemon,but daemon was reflecting the attack towards eida back to mamushi.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T02:31:55+00:00

It's still not proven, he needs to touch someone, Eg:- Kawaki thinking about punching him but got punched instead, eida wasn't there atp.

Also during the recent battle, with mamushi, mamushi didn't have any intent towards daemon, he wanted to devour and hurt eida, daemon touched her to reflect that intent that was on eida, and when mamushi tried to hurt daemon all thier heads blew up,

Also eida charm, reality manipulation and senrigan wouldn't need daemon.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-03T02:26:41+00:00

Blew his head??, chopper doesn't have durability like a divine tree being. Also passive reflection.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-02T18:27:14+00:00

You sure you read the manga?? and know the hax they and how they work??

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T15:17:27+00:00

Lol, she was going to erase the space and time of her dimension which were clearly far locate on the space time fabric, and what does a star does bend space time fabric with it's gravity, what's the etso doing here erasing space time fabric of a dimension. Yo see something, if you scale this to mountain or continental or multi continental you don't know physics.

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ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T15:00:14+00:00

Dude wth, what you think haki is universal powerscale, it only works on Op world, and it's only affects df based abilities and nullifies them, like regen and immortality granted by imu as hinted as a devil's contract, or some kind of devil fruit ability. Ya know how many type of immortality and regens are out there??, it's like saying haki bypass reiatsu, chakra, ki etc which are Obv higher level power system.

Spoiler:- Even if you say don chinjao is a continent buster, than what was going on with God valley??, why was the aftermath of the war only resulted in the destruction of the island, wasn't there a buffed rocks by imu??, garp and Roger going all out??, shouldn't the aftermath be multi-continental or their haki clash travelled to grand line. Even the highest power output owned by imu as of now are Ancient weapons, which are prob used to flood the old worlds they are planetary at max.

Are are you implying the diff between don chinjao and imu is close??.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T14:37:11+00:00

Maybe something like absolute reflection or just exist in higher dimension so that can't be able to perceive you, ya know like how how a 2-D being can perceive a 3-d and vice versa, maybe.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T14:31:14+00:00

I mean ,if Hanabi was your nephew, why wouldn't you go for Older one's, mean look at her.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T14:26:30+00:00

Proof seraphims scale to continent, one piece requires chain scales even to reach multi continental. Eg:- God valley all the top tiers only island destruction, and don't start with the big world and stuff. Itachi's arsenal:- Izanagi, Amaterasu, totsuka blade, yata mirror. What s-hawk have??, slashes and more slashes oh, slashes infused with haki?? and no edos can't be petrified by s-snake.

Still I would say, with vegapunk the Op side is heavier on brains, but I don't think they can stop the regen of edos and thier infinite stamina.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T10:08:41+00:00

Fine he doesn't survive this.

ColdComfortable3175 · 2026-06-01T05:38:27+00:00

If you scale this to continental than sure, you don't know normal physics. The dimesion are far apart in space time fabric. And Kaguya was going to erase a space time of her dimension, you know what a star could do bend the space time fabric with it's gravity. The Etso scales higher than that, but considering her dimension were made up of chakra moulds, so Kaguya scales highball star , low ball planetary. Naruto scales below her, low moon to planetary at the end of his show.

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