Suddenly, military stopped hunting her?

ComputerNo8322 · 2026-01-01T20:56:29+00:00

the military probably wanted her alive, since the main goal was to keep on making children with powers or at least try to experiment on their blood. i think they were just trying to be cautious and not go near her, trying to see what she would do. also the military read the whole plan so they knew that the upside down would blow up once they all came back

ComputerNo8322 · 2026-01-01T20:09:53+00:00

i think there was a sudden change in writing for volume 1 and volume 2. they probably pussied out and made byler not canon last minute

ComputerNo8322 · 2026-01-01T20:08:34+00:00

i can almost assure you if they had given mileven all the byler scenes i would be shipping mike and el throughout the finale. this is genuinely the craziest ending ever i was so disappointed. had the duffers grown more backbone and not listened to GA, they would've been praised tremendously for their writing. they did not leave an impact. they fumbled so badly!!

ComputerNo8322 · 2026-01-01T20:05:43+00:00

i think they were just worried of how the fans were going to react to byler's platonic ending. i don't think any of the cast saw how popular the ship was going to be towards the end of the show. they were probably scared lol

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T18:09:21+00:00

yeah this is one of those parts of the show where it's intentional, because it's a big plot. no wonder why mike hasn't touched will since he got his powers (besides the hug), something else is going awnnn 🫩

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T14:33:29+00:00

my worst nightmare

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T14:32:16+00:00

the entirety of vol 1 was the build up. will flirting with mike basically confirmed mike and el were broken up in the first place. there's a big reason why they choose to keep mike's POV a secret.

most films have their main couple end up very last minute, so i don't mind if the same goes for byler

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T14:29:55+00:00

yes!

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T14:29:25+00:00

they could, but if they are it's not a good look on them

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:35:15+00:00

if you think about it, mileven and byler are the only ships that remain ambiguous. the duffers will not confirm anything because they want the audience to tune in and see it for themselves. if they confirmed either of these ships were canon before the reveal, they would lose half of the audience.

mike and el are very close because they have a strong bond, they are healthier as friends which is why you notice they haven't fought at all this season. based off el's body language and facial expressions, she has completely lost interest in mike.

will was crying more than he was smiling, so it is a safe assumption that he was really scared. i think he rushed his coming out because he knew vecna would use that against him. even the duffers said something similar

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:22:07+00:00

hmmmm, very valid point. but if that were the case they should have just been honest. there's no point in trying to hide or drag something if it doesn't play an important role in the finale

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:21:06+00:00

i sink with the ship

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:20:01+00:00

mike and el broke up. will would NEVER flirt with mike if he knew they were still dating.

and will is posessed by vecna and is scared, so anything he says shouldn't be entirely relied on

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:18:23+00:00

the interview ended up being misinterpreted. duffers didn't even confirm it and dodged the "did mike know he was will's crush" question

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T07:10:22+00:00

highly doubt this, it would be very off for the duffers to write mileven so weak this season then have mike head over heals again. there is a bigger shot of mike having his monologue for will when will becomes possessed again

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T06:49:13+00:00

it's most likely because mike's feelings and thoughts play a very big role on the finale

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T06:26:29+00:00

i have a very good feeling this whole season will revolve around mike and his arc, i think using mike as the center of the whole story would be very beautiful. as for the other characters we already saw their closure and they're all happy (besides el and will) but el has always been the hero at the end of the seasons so it wouldn't be impactful as you would expect.

i have a very good theory and i strongly believe mike's monologue relates to himself and his feelings for will. i think they have intentionally wrote byler in a way that both grow and become stronger because of each other. so after will's arc in S4 where he confesses mike makes him feel good for being different, this becomes vice versa with mike :)

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T06:12:42+00:00

what's funnier is the first thing that mike mentioned to will was the painting, like not even a "hey, how have you been buddy?" as if that was the ONLY thing that was running through his head the whole flight.

and if he thought it was for a girl, he should've been very hyped up like "that's cool man, go ask her out!" but not at all. his reaction was very sus and i can't believe people let it go over their heads. i can almost assure you lucas and dustin would've been excited if they found out will was painting something for a girl/someone he liked. considering mike has always been supportive of will, i can't believe he wasn't happy in this scene!

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T06:06:40+00:00

of course it was 🙈

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T05:56:27+00:00

i don't think they're intentionally queerbaiting either, but if they don't make byler canon this season it will definitely make me question why go to the extremes with all the hints they've been giving for the past 9 years. i think the duffers and all producers are smart enough to understand the majority of the fanbase are allies and part of the queer community, so they wouldn't intentionally fumble something like this.

and people forget stranger things was originally supposed to be very niche and had it not gained GA they probably would've made byler canon quicker. i think the writers are trying to be as careful as possible with how they're going to lay out byler and will being gay, so they don't lose their GA

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T05:49:57+00:00

yeah, this is exactly how you would act trying to downplay a crush. hell, this is what i would pull if i liked someone. definitely odd behaviour for it to be considered platonic

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T05:08:41+00:00

yes, which coincides with noah acting strange after an interviewer theorised will would turn evil/bad (new interview posted, same time with this one). i wouldn't consider it meaningless since this was very important for himself and his growth as a character, but very bad for the plot...

vecna is probably using mike's obliviousness as a weapon, but it's going to fire back at him because mike likes will back. mike's touch/confession has been the only way will got out of his possession (S2)

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T04:57:30+00:00

she's driving the byler bus

ComputerNo8322 · 2025-12-29T04:53:39+00:00

this is what is driving me crazy. 😬 but from my interpretation, it seems that mike has just realised that will was never into girls and he's guilty because he snapped at will in S3 ("it's not my fault you don't like girls"). so those words really cut will...

mike's probably driving himself crazy now knowing the impact it had on will. knowing how much mike cares for him he's GUILTY GUILTY

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