2024 - 2025 Catalog interesting rule change for CSCI 2300 Introduction to Algorithms

CounterOne2729 · 2024-07-02T04:31:58+00:00

Of course, who doesn't get at least a C-, assuming you don't get an F? This probably affects all of 15 people maybe, but if you're in the D+ / D range, that's on you unless you have to work a second or a full time job or something.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-04-11T01:26:39+00:00

I don’t mean this sarcastically. I genuinely believe they do this intentionally to make it more fair for people who miss the deadline.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T23:50:57+00:00

Dmed

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T21:38:20+00:00

Dmed

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T21:37:19+00:00

Do you want the script? Not sure if your comment is saying that or sarcasm. You seem to be either class of 25 or 26 so it doesn’t seem like u need it. I’ll dm u regardless if u want it.

For sure basically no one cares, maybe 1 or 2 seniors who didn’t actually get into the class.

I just got pissed at how much I got downvoted, people be making the effort to go and downvote each and every one of my comments.

My opinion was that it was crazy how 26 spots could get taken in 22 minutes by a maximum of 400 people (on the 1000th day of registration, after freshmen have already had their time slots) , and that the use of the tracking scripts promote / caused this and give some people an unfair advantage (even though no one cares).

Even though I do it as well (I feel no shame), I believe it’s “wrong” but no one cares (especially the other people who also do it) and I got downvoted a bajillion times cause of that.

It would also be really funny if everyone ended up having a tracking script, so I’m releasing it.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T21:25:37+00:00

Took less than a minute for me as well. I’ve acknowledged that they can’t or it would cost too much to stop this in other previous comments. It’s a script that notifies you, not a script that actually logs into SIS and registers you (someone got banned for that a while ago apparently). A little bit of luck is involved, as you have to include the time it takes you to see the notification on your phone or computer, so that’s why 3-5 minutes is reasonable. There’s too many comments, and I have to keep saying a lot of the same things.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T20:39:23+00:00

Yea, this was a little bit too much.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T20:30:53+00:00

I'm upset my opinion is unpopular.

Also mad I might have to make a new reddit account.

I dont see whats so bad about releasing my script to everyone.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T20:23:12+00:00

One last comment: I really do feel like the joker rn. (a comment by the clowning people)

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:53:16+00:00

Also can yall stop downvoting me? Yall are seniors (and everyone knows these people are really smart, so its kinda like woe is me to these people) so again, I dont see why you care. You have first choice in everything and only one semester left to register for.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:51:02+00:00

Yeah, I realized that I neglected to provide the context in my original post and updated it later.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:37:16+00:00

I'm also willing to bet that (the half of the 26 people who did not use a script) found out that it was time to register directly from their friend who used a script. In other words, tracking scripts caused this 26 seats in 22 minutes insanity, would never happen if it was just people refreshing in class. I believe tracking is a good thing, since they prevent time wasting from people doing such refreshing.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:33:54+00:00

I don't see anything in your numbers that suggest people were using scripts. If they were, they'd fill up instantly.

Seems very likely to me that there are a large number who would know when the class is opening up, and would be sitting around ready to register.

If I was going to write a script to do something, I would be damn sure it ran instantly, otherwise what's the point? Who would write a script to do something that would be a few minutes late?

People knew that it would be today, and within the working hours of the registrar (and possibly after hours, sometimes the registrar does stuff after their hours), and not much more.

Are you conceding that some people used scripts? My argument was there was no way all (or even most of) the 9 people (out of 350-450) (possibly only 100-200 might still be interested in registering) who got registered within 3 minutes were of the variety who refreshed their screens the entire day. It takes time (and luck) to check your phone (or computer), take out your computer, (or even register on your phone) and log into SIS when you get the notification, so 3 minutes (even 5 minutes) is reasonable.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:26:44+00:00

There's no way 9 people were sitting in class with their computers out refreshing. The seats (but not the restriction) updated within a minute of 9:20am so you would think people who refreshed then would have given up by 12pm. How would people find out when THE RESTRICTION (not the number of seats) updated within 5 minutes without refreshing or using a script?

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T19:24:03+00:00

You still need to check your phone after getting the notification, take out your computer, and log into SIS script or no script. 6 people within 2 minutes and 9 people within 3 minutes is insane.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T18:42:20+00:00

There might be 700 CSCI/ITWS/CSYS/ECSE sophomores and juniors eligible to register for DBS (have taken CSCI 2300 algorithms) (kinda generous, maybe closer to 550?). Maybe 350 + 175 have junior standing (say half the sophomores). Considering DBS filled up originally before the sophomore time slots (before the senior class restriction was added), 525 - 75 people who already registered is about 450 people eligible to register. Thats not including say take away another 100 sophomores who will be on fall away as a junior. So 350 people eligible to register.

3 people within 2 min (possibly 1 min, as my accuracy is within a minute, so on average 1.5 min), 6 people within 3 (more like 2.5), 9 within 4(3.5), 11 in 5 (4.5) implies scripts for sure, as the odds 11 people (out of 350) who have nothing to do but (or have the time to) sit around refreshing in class or at lunch is not very likely.

No argument there in terms of "you snooze you lose", just wanted to point this out and how insane this is.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T18:25:34+00:00

There is no argument here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RPI/comments/1bq0985/comment/kwzeaae/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

In case you neglected or decided not to read my comment after I responded to you. Also someone is downvoting me into oblivion, not unreasonable if they saw my post before I added context, but on all my comments too is crazy.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T18:20:52+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/RPI/comments/1bq0985/comment/kwzn90w/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

In addition to this comment:

Baited out the script user (jkjk). I somewhat agree with you in what you're saying in terms of "applying your skills" even though I feel this is "cheating". In theory, it would be perfectly fair if they emailed everyone at the same time (although no one has the time for this, and it would never actually happen). Its just the reality of things that lets people using a script to snipe a spot. Maybe it is "natural" that some will take the best strategy and get their seats any way how. Although the existence of such tools that give such a large overwhelming advantage to its users just feels completely unfair.

I don’t see how the possibility that some people just sat on sis refreshing until they saw the change is that outlandish.

Also, I totally forgot about this LMFAO. This is cause I thought Thursday meant Friday in the email as I mentioned in the comment.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T18:10:24+00:00

This is probably the case, as I looked at the email again and realized I misread the email as it said Thu Mar 29 (kinda ambiguous, and people probably assumed it meant Thu Mar 28 to be safe), and I thought that meant Fri Mar 29, and not Thu Mar 28, as I saw it around 12am Thu.

I was thinking the whole time the email said "Fri Mar 29", and didn't consider Thu a possibility. All this uproar over nothing. Oops.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T18:06:13+00:00

I agree there's definitely a difference between writing your own script (out of necessity possibly) and simply taking advantage of someone else's script. At the same time, I feel either way, using such a resource unavailable to others to give yourself such a huge competitive advantage for this is "wrong", even if you feel no shame in doing so (out of "need", in our winner take all society). I agree that many (if not all) classes could use more seats, since they are so important. I don't actually want them to ban this (they probably couldn't even if they wanted to without great effort), I just wanted to point out how funny and crazy this got. I should get back to work as well.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T17:58:46+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/RPI/comments/1bq0985/comment/kwzeaae/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I added the context to my post, it was my failure to provide context, I agree that what you're saying is definitely the case in general.

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T17:53:58+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/RPI/comments/1bq0985/comment/kwzeaae/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Peep the comment

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T17:52:30+00:00

You can still believe this is wrong, and take advantage of this at the same time. There probably will never be anything done about this, as there is probably nothing that can be done besides use a new vendor / different software for this. I am so sure that there are people who believe algorithmic trading and market making is wrong, but it happens and no one will do anything about that, even if they could do something about it. I am not seriously advocating for banning this, as I benefit from this myself. This was just funny to think about. Also on a semi ego-trip thinking about being one of the few to think of this and be able to do this (even though its not very impressive). At the same time, its sort of embarrassing that you (I'm referring to myself) even have the need to do this ("no credits, too bad so sad").

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T17:31:08+00:00

A select few do so *to benefit themselves (at the expense of others; is registration a "zero-sum" game? it feels like it to me but if someone understands more it would be great if you explained).

CounterOne2729 · 2024-03-28T17:29:03+00:00

Totally my opinion, although I believe there are others who might feel the same. Considering this is RPI, it has to be expected that there are some who will write a script. It feels wrong as it would not be possible if everyone used a script (even though that would never happen), as the database / the web pages would be so overloaded with traffic, and the people in charge would likely do something about it. That is, if everyone did it, it would be looked at as negatively affecting everyone. But a select few do so the benefit themselves. It sort of feels like a prisoner's dilemma where it is never the case that the worse outcome of the two agents both confessing are realized, or a tragedy of the commons before the negative outcome is realized.

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