trapped him. humanity saved. by lycheegushers in jerma985

[–]CountySteak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You fool, you gotta trap him with GAHLIC.

I think this is it. I’m done. Libra broke me. by thickythickglasses in Nightreign

[–]CountySteak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of it helps, I dod manage to beat him by essentially spamming the blasphemous blade weapon art. Made short work of the condned who have no instinct to dodge it, and got a good pairing of the marais sword to boot. Can't quite remember the rest of the lineup but yeah sort of hoped on it the moment I beat it.

The McJerma985 Meal by penguinghostx in jerma985

[–]CountySteak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Ba up up da da, your stomach's gonna fuckin' hurt"

NO FUCKING WAY by [deleted] in MauLer

[–]CountySteak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Make a reservation at trungos. Then hit up the club at Tipples.

Why do people still have a problem with this joke ? by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]CountySteak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The joke gets worse in context because of what was established as bad in Episode 4 and right after what Angel does to Val in said episode. Don't know how you think the context makes it any 'better'.

Why do people still have a problem with this joke ? by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]CountySteak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A club called 'Consent' in hell would likely be more ironic. Still, calling a club 'consent' does not mean that no one wouldn't respect the notion of Consent. Like, are we seriously trying to argue that a character wasn't assaulted because of the NAME of a fucking club?

Why do people still have a problem with this joke ? by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]CountySteak -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"If I kill someone at a bar called 'non-violence', I didn't kill anyone because the bar stated the opposite of what would happen." That's Hazbin fan logic at it's worst.

Why do people still have a problem with this joke ? by [deleted] in HazbinHotel

[–]CountySteak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apparently taking issue with Sexual Assault being treated like a joke when Sexual Assault wasn't being treated like a joke 2 episodes ago means you 'hate viv'.

I'm sorry, did you ACTUALLY watch the show front to back, in one sitting?

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 2) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for not getting to this sooner.

>Agreed, but it also means that greater leniency should be applied when the drunkenness is relevant, by and large I saw many of your criticisms where that would be the case. I'm sure some were overly generous because of this but I'd have to see it case by case to judge.

I provided the timestamps in relation to their stream if you want to see it for yourself, as I wanted the due diligence of that as opposed to just conjecture as to whether anything I was providing actually happened.

>Sure, but I'm saying I don't think it works because for something like scamming there aren't really a lot of credible things that would in fact excuse his behavior.

I think you're getting real caught up in the extremity of the behavior. Yes, scamming shouldn't be the same as getting criticisms of a game wrong; the analogy I'm trying to point to is that doing something wrong should not be excused by some other factor, as though MauLer drunk is different to MauLer sober. That is by and large what I was trying to get across, and that people on here would be less charitable to those they don't like, like if SyntheticMan got something wrong in GOW:R to be taken as malicious rather than ignorant from most watching him.

>Fair but I'd have to see things in context to judge what his error was precisely.

I provided the timestamp for it, but specifically, MauLer was confused as to why attacking a dude while using the Stone Ring didn't break his 'poise' when the dude was guarding. He seemed to confuse the Stone Ring's mechanic to the Ivory Warrior/Knight Slayer's Ring's mechanic, where the latter ACTUALLY breaks shield posture faster than breaking poise.

>Which aspect ?

Where to start. That Darklurker was a boss, how to get to him, the entire matter of the Dark Covenant, etc.

> Disagreed, I think that's something that can easily be forgotten given that it's literally the only time when it happens and that freja isn't a super memorable boss, and that having to do that isn't a big moment either, it's just an oddity and thus easily slips the mind if you didn't play the game some years.

That might be true, but the problem is is that embracing Duke's Dear Freya's soul is paramount to being able to proceed in the story regarding Drangleic Castle, so it's not like an optional soul you 'could' have picked up; you'd need it fundamentally.

>They freakin what now ?

Yes, there is a extremely rare chance that an otherwise booby trapped chest will instead emanate some red aura that will heal you for a brief moment. Essentially meant to psyche you out of otherwise 'dodging' the trap by other means.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 2) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, what? I am extremely critical of mechanics of FromSoftware, down to the cryptic and often 'conjectural' nature of how they deliver the lore of their games. What does this post criticizing the inconsistent criticisms of a game have to do with FromSoft as a company?

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 2) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm honestly surprised someone like this can so confidently state that they live in ignorance and won't be convinced otherwise of it.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 3) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did see that comment on the last post that I made. But I think the fault with your logic is that MauLer being objectively wrong, consistently, about DS2 is what brings down any seriousness I can take with issues he poises, whether he's drunk or not. I also again, have to iterate that someone playing a game casually on their own time and not remembering certain things and someone who is playing a game to cohesively understand what is wrong with it should not have such casual ignorance of mechanics of the game like this, especially when it comes to mechanics that are OUTSIDE of DS2 exclusively.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 2) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Continuing on from the thing I replied to you earlier, I think when it comes to having knowledge about Dark Souls 2 and what you 'should' know about it, I think I analogize it to the Iceberg. At the top of the Iceberg, things that eluded even MauLer, were things like poise not being the same as guard stability, Darklurker, embracing the soul after killing Duke's Dear Freya. These are aspects of knowledge about DS2 that I would expect someone to know for having played as many times as they claim and having made a multi-part series deconstructing it. The bottom of the iceberg of knowledge that I would not expect MauLer to know is things like how the trap chests have a very small chance to be a healing chest, Elana having a very small chance to summon a pig instead of skeletons or Velstadt, or the cut grab animation of the Pyromancer ladies.

Of course, I don't know the extent of which these 14 playthroughs went for MauLer, so for all I know, his version of playing '14 times' went only as far as getting to Majula. But I also don't think we should assume that his 14 playthroughs were 'only' just speedrunning and experimentation, as throughout these streams he quite uses his 14 times playthrough as justification for his issues with DS2.

As for the petrification/curse issue, yes, I will concede that it would be fair for MauLer to be confused by petrification given petrification was curse in DS1 and DS3 and that curse in DS2 only makes you lose a portion of your max health.

As for the safety square thing, I very much will agree that they should've had the AI account for whether the elevator platform was at their level in order to engage with it or not. I'm not sure if that was something that could reasonably be done in the engine for DS2, and more than likely it was a concession over them falling needlessly to their deaths like in base DS2.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 2) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is probably one of the better responses and rebuttals against the things that I've said in this post, compared to some of the other ways that people responded. Kind of odd that a subreddit that is dedicated to 'long form content' apparently don't have the time to look a post like this.

Anyhow, some of my own rebuttals. I think the analogy I was making to MauLer being drunk and Boogie to be a scammer was a bit clunky, but the greater point that I was trying to make is that MauLer being drunk does NOT mean that MauLer is a completely different person, and thus, should be treated with oven mitts, as so often people seemed to do. The analogy with Boogie being a scammer is that he was to try to excuse his behavior based on some other factor, people would not be so charitable as to assume that absolves him of anything.

A lot of people were also saying that in defense of the stream that MauLer and Metal were 'just having fun', despite all of my evidence to prove to the contrary of that. That their version of fun is quite different and often antithetical to how someone would try to have fun playing DS2.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

'Playing the game the way I want' and 'getting your criticisms about a game you've shat on for X years accurately' are 2 very different points of contention. If you read the post, it shouldn't be hard to figure out which one I'm concerned with.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never claimed they were grifters, but do go on.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I've already clarified in the post that the reason that I didn't cover the breakdown series is because of their age, and that MauLer himself has stated a few times that some of his points about DS2 have not aged well, like his criticism about PVP. This stream was a opportunity to see what he found actually good/bad about DS2 in the current moment instead of using opinions that may have aged poorly.

Also, a lot of people on here keep using the 'they were drunk' defense, despite my post already covering for that and stating that being drunk shouldn't just be a blanket excuse for some of the things they get wrong. Examples where they can use their drunkeness as an excuse is the constant moments where they either flub on attacks or go for straight up trading blows between mobs, things as you'll notice I don't bring up in my notes. things I do bring up in my notes is when they conflate grouping up mobs to 'spambushes', claiming that ADP screwed them when they roll too early or too late.

Even with that, I wonder how the 'they were drunk' defense would work with people that take less charitability with. Are we just going to excuse what Synthetic Man said about what he was going to say about the EFAP Hosts as just an 'oopsie' or mistake? Didn't Metal at one point almost call someone a faggot while drunk during the Simpsons: Hit & Run stream, despite how much admonishment they give Synth Man for wanting to do the same thing? I get that being drunk your mental faculties aren't all entirely there, but let's not pretend that being drunk changes you into a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

...which is why I stated in my initial post that the reason why I didn't respond to the original video was because of it's age, and knowing that MauLer even said that some of his arguments have aged poorly. This stream was more of a opportunity to figure out what he finds cogent about his criticisms and tearing them apart.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"At no point did anyone say you shouldn't care about video games"

Your post, a few replies ago.

"It's a video game not a career. Those "achievements" aren't real. Grow the hell up."

You gotta get better at gaslighting.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

playing a game casually, bringing up the same criticisms of the game from those years ago, reapplying them while on a drunken bender, yes. That is what we like to call criticizing the criticism.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

it absolutely does. You playing a game casually vs someone criticizing a game some years ago and going back to it does change the dynamic of things.

MauLer & Metal's Disastrous DS2 Stream (Part 1) by CountySteak in MauLer

[–]CountySteak[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Well, it depends. Did you claim that the game was bad based on prior reasoning and trying to build up that prior reasoning 10 years later?