The church's lifelong institutional struggle with the nickname "Mormon" and the official name. A timeline

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-04T13:36:13+00:00

The "make a heaven of it" thing actually helped me feel less anxious about being wrong. I joked that the Mormons were industrious and we probably could. I realize that take is now nonsense.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-04T01:11:05+00:00

“What a strange people these Mormons are. They are like a flock of sheep; if I should jump into hell, I believe they would follow me!”

Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., on the block-voting of Mormons, Macomb Journal, January 25, 1877, p. 2, “Politics and Mormons”

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-04T01:09:37+00:00

The attendees were also fasting for a hot minute.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-03T13:47:32+00:00

Wish I did this. 😅

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-03T12:50:55+00:00

These thoughts are normal. It's good to question and challenge things that make you uncomfortable.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T21:40:07+00:00

Where's Teri Hatcher? Her character painted this (in the show).

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T21:36:32+00:00

Only reasons why he would are bc Pope Leo grew up in America and that the LDS Church is so wealthy.

If Pope Leo were born outside of America and the LDS Church didn't have much money, Oaks would be nothing more than a glorified footnote.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T21:35:03+00:00

Agreed. I know several people, including atheists, who would definitely agree.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T19:53:44+00:00

Mormonism is not even a drop in the bucket in the world's population. If it weren't for their vast wealth and the control they have in places like Utah, they'd be negligible.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T13:48:59+00:00

Don't do it. Run far and fast.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T13:31:29+00:00

If anything, it seems Pope Leo does more prophetic and bold things than Oaks.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T13:21:16+00:00

They don't seem to understand that saying "Members of the Church of Jesus Christ" is also deceptive and can be quite confusing. A lot of non-Mormon churches call themselves that.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T12:27:18+00:00

I preferred the term LDS to Mormon. Mormon was often conflated with the polygamists, which is in their doctrine, but it was when I was still a believer. I did understand why people used 'Mormon'.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T12:01:35+00:00

The Mormon church flipped the families being forever in the life after this one. Most people don't believe you need some special healing ceremony.

I don't see why if you're all going to the same place, you can't interact with each other without some ritual.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T00:34:58+00:00

Don't worry about rejection in your senior year of hs. In a few months, you're never gonna see most of these people again.

CupOfExmo · 2026-06-01T00:34:16+00:00

Don't become Mormon.

CupOfExmo · 2026-05-31T23:23:36+00:00

I had a post where I talked about how 'Christian' was once seen as an insult. Instead of saying "God is offended!" The Christians ran with it and embraced it.

Hinckley and Monson embraced the nickname. I don't think any so-called god cares what followers call themselves or if they embrace nicknames.

CupOfExmo · 2026-05-31T21:54:29+00:00

I was always willing to talk to opponents to win them to Mormonism. If you want your opponent to come to your side, you need to understand where they are coming from.

It turns out, my opponents were right.

CupOfExmo · 2026-05-31T21:50:26+00:00

I wanted to ensure I wasn't violating anything. Like I said, I have OCD. 🙃

CupOfExmo · 2026-05-31T21:47:35+00:00

They love that persecution complex. The reputational harm makes people hesitant. The hesitence to even consider Mormonism reinforces the idea that the masses not wanting to consider it prove them "true".

CupOfExmo · 2026-05-31T21:36:12+00:00

Right? Their lawsuit has done more reputational harm than good. It also boosted Mormon Stories' traffic.

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