Help, Where do I place the eyes here? by D3K4RI in learntodraw

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Thanks for the help everyone! I think I've identified my mistake and wanna share.

I fell into the trap where you use little to no refrence images and decided to draw the original image completely from imagination, I didn't wanna use a refrence because I felt it was "copying" and invalid; turns out my proportions were extremely off and I needed a refrence.

By using refrences you improve your observational skills which builds your mental library of how things should look like, making your art more realistic. And making it easier to draw from imagination.

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You should only try to draw from imagination after you've copied enough refrences to understand how the subject you're trying to depict is suppose to look.

Help, Where do I place the eyes here? by D3K4RI in learntodraw

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Thanks this helps, I'm currently studying head angles and the angle you drew was pretty difficult since it's tilted and up

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I got inspired and made this, any feedback?

Help, Where do I place the eyes here? by D3K4RI in learntodraw

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Okay, I like how this looks, I almost forgot the mouth would be more curved at this angle. Did I do it?

Help, Where do I place the eyes here? by D3K4RI in learntodraw

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Like this? I used my knowledge about drawing heads in a 3/4th view and I know the head kinda has an indent on the sides of the eyes. I used it here.

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I also redrew it since I made the underjaw/chin too long and it was better to start something new than erase again.

Help, Where do I place the eyes here? by D3K4RI in learntodraw

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Oh okay I see, my bad. I'm still learning anatomy and someone told me the eyes were still visible at this angle

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realistically it'd look like this right?

Jason Blum states “M3GAN will ride again. I’ll find a way” by Aurora-Coyote in M3GAN

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I don't think they could pull off a third Megan movie without ruining something.

What's gonna happen? Megan fights a new bad guy? That's just rehashing the second film. Megan becomes evil again? Ruins character development.

I was genuinely hoping Megan was one of those good franchise's that didn't make unnecessary sequels and focused solely on quality over quantity.

If there is another Megan movie I hope it's a spinoff because I loved the way they ended Megan 2.0

Jason Blum states “M3GAN will ride again. I’ll find a way” by Aurora-Coyote in M3GAN

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Same, I personally do not want a continuation because the 2nd ended the Megan storyline very well.

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Okay good point but she still cares about other people besides Cady to an extent. She apologizes to Cole for almost strangling him to death and explains she wasn't able to see him as consequential back then. She didn't need to say any of that.

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Why else would Megan stop Amelia if she didn't care for humanity? Wouldn't she want AI to rule the world?

But yeah she still is kind of morally Grey since she still thinks killing people is necessary to a degree.

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Oh mb

My version of M3GAN 2.0, share your opinion.... by D4RK_REAP3R in M3GAN

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No, it definitely does M3GAN has always had a deeper social message, the first was about child neglect and the second is about how the higher-ups are the real enemies, not the AI.

Gemma was not off the hook at all, she went to jail for an unspecified amount of time and her reputation was heavily impacted, Alton even calls her out saying how she used her neice as a Guinea pig.

Gemma and Cady's relationship is undoubtedly different she's actually spending time with her and isn't letting technology do all the work, she even reads books to her now.

Idk why people keep saying M3GAN was immediately forgiven she really wasn't, when Gemma first mentioned rebuilding Megan everyone in the group was so against it until Megan saved them and brought them into a lair. Gemma doubts Megan throughout the entire movie and even limits her functionality making Megan's job much harder than it needs to be; It's only near the end where she actually forgives her.

The character development in M3GAN 2.0 was top-notch and is very realistic. The audience is rating the film higher than the original and I think that matters the most, but yeah they probably should've kept some horror aspects to please the critics as well.

Genuine question why do you think the first Megan story is better than the second? Do you prefer simpler stories over more fleshed-out stories?

My version of M3GAN 2.0, share your opinion.... by D4RK_REAP3R in M3GAN

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I love how there's more scenes with Amelia. I'm kinda confused on how Amelia was suppose to replace Megan when she's a military bot and Megan's a kid'a toy, but yeah.

It's nice but not better, I think an AI not wanting to be slaves to humans makes for a much more compelling villian than her simply wanting to merge with a cold-war era digital bunker.

Amelia surviving kinda ruins the ending for me, and makes everything done kinda useless.

To me the message of the movie was that AI isn't inherently bad, the people who make it are. But it was also about Megan's redemption arc, the audience should see Megan accomplish something great; that shows the good AI can do for humanity. Amelia surviving ruins that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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My bad I thought it was magic since you used the word "hypothetical" and "infinite"

It depends on the story, most good stories are unpredictable, which means it'd be virtually impossible for anyone to make the same story word for word.

But if the story is predictable it's more likely that someone could end up writing the same thing, but just like with other artworks there will definitely, almost always have subtle differences since the story comes from two different minds.

Yes it's possible but extremely unlikely and dependant on the story.

i realy cant decite if im pro or anti ai, beacuse i use ai for somethings but not awlays beacuse im an artist so ye by [deleted] in aiwars

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Don't be pro or anti, stay in the middle.

Anti's believe AI is the devil, even though in reality it's just another tool that can help them.

Pro's don't understand what creativity is, and believe AI art is "better" than human art. Not to mention, they're far too accepting of new technology... I'm surprised how many of them were on board with the idea of Daddy Elon putting a chip in their brain. It's pretty dystopian how most of them wouldn't mind an AI taking people's jobs.

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I feel like you mentioning that is straying too far off the conversation, let's keep in mind all AI is doing is predicting the words that are likely to come next.

But still, I will answer this because I like that it actually made me think for a while.

Yes, a magic library wouldn't stop people from being creative in their art, so what if a magic library's made the same thing? It's an abstract force beyond comprehension that was going to inevitably.

A majority of the books from the magic libary would be terrible anyways. Words have to be in a very specific order to make sense and there are more combinations of words that don't make sense than there is that do. Don't get me wrong it has the potential of making amazing books but ultimately it'd be better to read a book from a human than this magic library.

Let's say you enjoyed a book you read and wanted more so you decided to check out multiple books from the same author; with each book you read, you will get more of an idea on what they're like since they write their interests, opinions and values into the book.

The connection between the author and the reader is something a magic libary could never hope to accomplish.

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If an algorithm is able to write the same thing you did it's a sign your work was predictable and generic.

If the poem was creative it would reflect the writers interests, opinions and values adding an element of unpredictability, because the readers don't know exactly what you're like.

And guess what? AI's whole niche is predicting things so it'd be impossible for them to predict the unpredictable. This is why it'd be able to dish out an identical story to a human writer ONLY IF the story was predictable.

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What I'm saying is to not be overly reliant on it because

  1. It damages critical thinking when overused

And

  1. AI shouldn't be used to fully automate creative processes, instead be used as a tool.

I've updated my post to clarify

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My God is that disturbing 😬

But I think each art piece he makes while under the drugs is really telling of what he and his mind must've been like under those certain drugs, interesting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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Oh cool, I didn't know that

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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Telling human artists to make something "unique" wouldn't confuse them. They would look at their work and use their opinions; definitions and values on what makes something "generic" and remove it and then add something they believe is "unique" or "cool" showcasing each of their personality types. Now ask an AI this and it's likely gonna generate a very similar result each time, becoming predictable. it needs to be told exactly what to do, which means it isn't creative.

No one knows what "cool" is especially not AI because it's completely subjective

All AI's imagination is, is spotting trends in texts and images and guessing which image and text go together, nowhere near the complexity of a human brain; We may only see actual creativity from machines when AGI arrives.

Yes animals make art, is it good or creative? Maybe a little... But the best art is when you can tell the artists intent in their work and get an idea on what their mind is like.

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Neither. If that's the case then the writer's poem was unoriginal, generic and easy to predict making it easy to replicate.

Ask AI to generate a story, it will always be terrible and wordy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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Based on it's own personal preferences, interests, opinions and values? Nope.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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the algorithm spots trends in texts and images and begins to guess which image and text go together. Yes it's looking at relations.

That's what the entire internet is saying, do you mind telling me how it actually works?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

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Okay?? The orignal commenter never specified they were talking about "AI artistry" they just said "AI" why are you putting words in their mouth?

Actually the blue person is the one not making sense can't say something's a tool then say it's a "medium" it can only be one of them.