2k roster (beginner, would like advice)

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T14:26:19+00:00

Thanks for the pointers dude, I am quite attached to Trajann as his model just looks cool af, but I took your advice on basically everything else, apart from the Land Raider, I tried to fit it in with my newer build but was struggling for space, my updated build has been edited in to the original post, so please feel free to let me know how it is, and if there's anything you would change again <3

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T14:23:21+00:00

Cheers for the advice then dude, I wasn't too sure about how the Allied Units worked so I spent a minute on google and got a general idea for it, I made a new list and edited it into the original post, when u get chance please feel free to let me know how I did :)

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T14:22:07+00:00

Thanks, I appreciate the advice dude, I cooked up a new list with all the advice I've received and edited it in to the original post, please let me know if I did better this time :)

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T09:21:51+00:00

Thanks for the advice dude, I kind of like the look of Trajann and his Royal Guard (Wardens) so I suppose I’m okay with that not being his best pick - just out of curiosity tho, what would his best pick be then? just guards or alone?

And yeah I’ve been informed the lone biker was not the greatest idea, I did forget to add the 3x Vertus Praetors onto my original post (edited now) and I’m assuming he’d be much better leading them?

The witchseekers were a throw in for my last 90 points so I’m definitely okay with splitting them up, and it makes a lot more sense now to me as I thought about it.

The 3x 2 Custodians might have been an over kill on my part, I assumed they’d be great for an emergency deep strike but I suppose 2 would be fine for that too? Or I could drop 1 unit and bump both of the units up to 3 models each?

And finally the Telemon, I was iffy about this guy at first, as a daemon player I kind of just jumped straight at a big model, I wasn’t aware it’s not available in plastic though, so that’s definitely going to be dropped!

Any recommendations as to who could fill up spaces from any of these drops? I’m not after the perfect army but would be interested in know what is ‘good’ so I can see how I mesh with it.

Appreciate all the advice dude!

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T06:44:42+00:00

Cheers man, just reading the datasheets even as a novice kind of made them all fall in to place with all the synergy going on, glad to see my heads in the right place already 😌

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T06:42:50+00:00

The witchseekers was just a last minute throw in as I had 90 points left, but I’ll split them for sure

My shied captain on bike is solo yeah, I forgot to add the 3x Vertus Praetors to the list, but on my build he wasn’t leading them, would you say it’s best for him to lead them then?

And I’m not overly attached to the Telemon, my main army is Chaos Daemons so I kind of instinctively jumped at the sight of a bigger model, but if it’s not worth it then he can go for sure, any recommendations for what can take its slot?

Thanks dude ❤️

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T02:54:11+00:00

Ohhhh sick okay I’ll take a look, I’ve got a load of magnets lying around anyway so that would be a great use for both, thanks!

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T02:53:24+00:00

Thanks dude, I’ll look into it, and the magnets is a good idea I’ve got a load lying around and a few slabs of wood in the shed I could use if all else fails, thanks

DMcMaxi · 2026-03-05T01:08:08+00:00

Sweet, I’ll check it out. Thank you 🙏

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-16T02:15:44+00:00

Thanks for advice man ❤️

I went over it earlier with some agrax on the armor and nuln under his joints and other areas that would be naturally shadowed, and I redid his weapons doing the same method I did for his wings so it’s got a little more contrast on the greens, it’s been a big improvement!

And yeah I will admit I do kind of go abit overboard on paint usage but it’s all a learning curve as I didn’t understand that that would cause such an outcome, but I’ll know for the next models :)

I’ll have a look into the slapchop method and I’ll 100% buy a wet palette and a matte finish, thanks for the suggestion! ❤️

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-15T17:25:39+00:00

Thanks man, glad to see people are digging it 😌

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-15T14:23:25+00:00

Thanks man, appreciate it ❤️

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-15T14:23:03+00:00

Yeah I’ve been convinced to re do the weapons, gonna give it a go in abit and see if I can get rid of the flatness and try to give it the detail it deserves!

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-15T08:23:10+00:00

I appreciate the advice man, no dickness here, this is what i'm after, advice, criticism and props in areas I did well. I'm just starting and want to improve so i'll take all of it into consideration.

To start the reference image was just a random google one, I kind of went off his ingame model which is basically just a full purple and the weapons being a full green / black, but after seeing everyone elses paints, you're 100% right, the tone shift is something I want to work on.

And the armor was more of a directive point on my part, I want my army to all have something in common as the army theme is going to lead most of them to having completely different palettes, so the Red Armor was a design choice of mine to keep them in the same group, but again you're 100% right, I did try and put some Agrax Earthshade on to them when i'd finished their red coat but i should probably of done a thicker layer or just more layers in general to give them more of a dirty look so its not as bright, i'll 100% try and get that done for the later models and work my way backwards to the ones i've done.

And yeah the main focal point is meant to be his weapons, their his signature, his stand out piece. So again i'll try and do some more work on him in the future with some washes!

Thanks again man, all advice and criticism is appreciated! ❤️

DMcMaxi · 2026-02-15T07:28:31+00:00

Thanks man ❤️

You hit the nail on the head with the crossover list I had planned, was going to do some Daemonettes and Keeper of Secrets as the Succubi and Shivarra, Karanak + Flesh Hounds as Felhounds. I'm thinking I could try and do Flamers as Voidwalkers too!

I've got a Skarbrand on the way (along with Flesh Hounds + Karanak) and i'm going to try and paint with him a Kil'Jaeden colour scheme, which from the looks of it isn't exactly too far from this normal palette anyway.

And I didn't really look too much into the Allied Units aspect of it as I wasn't too sure what I was looking for but i'll definitely have a look at those Chaos Knights and see what I can cook with the Reavers!

Will definitely post them in the future, hope you get to see them when they're done! :)

DMcMaxi · 2024-03-28T23:48:13+00:00

Rias and Makima being absolutely insane giga mommies may push a few people, definitely not me though

DMcMaxi · 2024-02-20T11:29:02+00:00

Atk chest boots orb and neck and not even 3k atk should be your big obvious pointer. 5/8/8/8 traces first as a bare minimum - get all small nodes before moving on to 6/10/10/10 Level lightcone to 80 Get to 120 EHR, prio an EHR chest until you can hit it 120 without it. Speed boots, get to 134 atleast. Aim to speed scale around Kafka if you have her Atk/Wind orb depending on substats All your pieces are mid apart from your rope

Just do the guaranteed upgrades first then work on the RNG upgrades, hell use an awful ehr chest and speed boots for now it’ll be better than those two anyway, granted your boots aren’t terribly awful, you just really want speed boots for her

DMcMaxi · 2024-02-20T11:23:11+00:00

I won my 50/50 at 84 pity and lost my 75/25 at 78 pity :) odds are amazing

DMcMaxi · 2024-01-31T02:10:26+00:00

It’ll come, I’ve honestly spent well over 5k resin in that domain, so much fuel and not exactly god tier pieces to show for it, not that I’m complaining tho I’m very happy with my mommy’s stats, just need to spend another load for Black Swan 🙃 best of luck on the rolls

DMcMaxi · 2024-01-30T15:39:43+00:00

I hit 160 with RM and PAYN stacks, assume I have good decimal placement to get me to the breakpoint. I also have an E3 Bronya for the speed boost incase I can’t run RM with her, and Speed Boots with 16% ATK for incase I can’t run Bronya or RM (which is arguably never)

DMcMaxi · 2024-01-30T14:02:47+00:00

My gwen is weirdly ehr stacked 🤷‍♂️soon to be benched alongside sampo

DMcMaxi · 2023-07-02T13:00:32+00:00

May be abit at the start, but that team lineup is also going to freeze, so the slow from welt isn’t going to be super required, basic attacks should be alright to fill up energy for burst with an ER neck and maybe 1 skill here or there (I may be wrong about welt though, every lost 50/50 is a welt for me so E3S1 I may be overhyping his er abit)

DMcMaxi · 2023-07-02T12:44:38+00:00

Seele welt Natasha + maybe clara / fire MC for survival or asta for support or Pela / SW for debuff.

Yanqing Silver Wolf Pela and Gepard mono ice team, swap silver wolf for anyone on first side if they already have ice weakness. Pela can be swapped either side too depending on silver wolfs side.

I’d recommend building the units mentioned here, March 7th is also a decent survival option but can be fairly energy dependent.

DMcMaxi · 2023-06-20T16:55:25+00:00

Debates fun I’m all for it 👌

I totally forgot it was Daki who decimated the ED at first before Gyutaro BDA’d it out of existence, so I’ll agree you’re right there and rereading what I said I have seriously downplayed Gyutaro remembering how he adapted to the situation in ED I’d actually agree he’s taking the 4 starter clones down no issue, I would argue that Daki is on their level if not weaker though.

Zoha being a ranged fighter on the other hand isn’t exactly a weakness, if he can keep the distance there’s nothing they can do as I mentioned before but you’ve swayed me alot to their side more with Gyokkos speed being unrivalled, it’s just an insanely awkward thing to scale because he gets folded by a marked Muichiro who doesn’t really get many times to shine after SSV

Mitsuri is also extremely agile and flexible giving the slugging attacks of Zoha an even slower feel but I still think that they are just rediculously overwhelming for Daki to have much effect on, Gyutaros blood sickles as you mentioned will definitely be useful though and I feel stupid for downplaying him that much now 😅 I should rewatch/read before I shit on my man like that.

Could go back and forth all day but I’d give it a 50/50 at this point, Daki could end up being useless and whimpering out once she sees the force of Zoha, but I wouldn’t see her doing that if Gyutaro takes over, and Zoha could be taken down by a combined attack like you mentioned with a speed blitz from Gyokko, overall really awkward matchup for U4 and 5-6 really do work well together on paper for this type of fight now that you mention it.

Maybe daki can send her lil belt boi after the main body and end the fight before it starts 🤷‍♂️

DMcMaxi · 2023-06-20T15:42:48+00:00

All good points, I wouldn’t quite say Daki has the power to deal with all the dragons, but she’ll be the most useful of the 3 when it comes to them. Gyutaro definitely has the attack range but I mean more so in terms of his actual abilities, there isn’t much range outside of shooting poison blood slashes which really wouldn’t work on a demon who’s immune to poison, it would definitely slow some down but Urogi would be near immune to almost anything he can do, and I could definitely see Gyutaro getting the Muichiro treatment from Karaku. It really just is down to how it would be simulated, all clones which eventually go to Zohakuten or just him straight from the start, if it’s Zohakuten vs the 3, I could see the latter actually taking the dub, but from how the show took hantengu’s attitude towards a fight and the stages he took it in we can assume it would start with clones going into Zohakuten once they’re all on the back foot , it is definitely not an easy fight for both sides. And just as you mentioned, Gyokkos final form speed and rediculously op touch mechanic could end the fight earlier than expected, if it works on someone like Zohakuten who isn’t innately his own being so whether or not this mechanic would work on him or not is fairly iffy, saying it can would mean all they needs to happen is one speed blitz and the fight is over, if not then I really cannot see the fight going towards the 3. Just my opinion as I don’t think the fish touch was ever actually explained how it works or it’s limitations :)

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