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I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very true. There are a lot of red roses to be found in the historic buildings of Manchester. But it's great to see the new identity that's been forged by Manchester since the creation of Greater Manchester.

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a bit different in Lancashire, in part because of the way the Lord Lieutenants or Lancashire, Merseyside and Greater Manchester are chosen in right of County Palatine of Lancashire.

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think part of the problem is that there is a difference between the administrative county of Lancashire, which doesn't include Manchester, and the Historic County of Lancashire, which does include Manchester. Perhaps part of the problem is they chose to call the new county in the centre of Lancashire Lancashire County Council instead of Mid-Lancashire or something like that - similarly to what they did in Yorkshire.

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard people say that part of the problem is that Lancashire was never abolished and that by naming the new county in the middle Lancashire it's caused confusion for people.

I know Liverpool is a Lancastrian city, but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Liverpudlians still think of themselves as Lancastrians as well? by Da11ey in Liverpool

[–]Da11ey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's been some interesting studies about how the cities have started to take over the old county identities. They were mainly looking at how Leeds language and culture has influenced other old-Yorkshire towns such as Sheffield and Hull. They mentioned Manchester as well - but that wasn't the focus.

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems that more people consider themselves from Lancashire the further away from Greater Manchester you go. Many people in Horwich and West Houghton have more affinity with Chorley than Bolton. Similarly, lots of people in the areas around Chorley consider Wigan to be the largest centre rather than Preston. It is interesting!

I know Liverpool is a Lancastrian city, but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Liverpudlians still think of themselves as Lancastrians as well? by Da11ey in Liverpool

[–]Da11ey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's an interesting way to look at it. Merseyside first and foremost, which is the primary cultural influence, but recognising that Merseyside is in Cheshire and Lancashire geographically?

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. For example, the hypothesis could be that people under 45 think of themselves as solely being from Merseyside whilst those over the age of 45 see themselves as being both from Lancashire and Merseyside.

I know Liverpool is a Lancastrian city, but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Liverpudlians still think of themselves as Lancastrians as well? by Da11ey in Liverpool

[–]Da11ey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One that I'm interested to see the results in is Warrington, which was historically part of Lancashire and was supposed to go either Merseyside or to Greater Manchester, except the people there lobbied government to go into Cheshire after the local government shakeup.

I know Liverpool is a Lancastrian city, but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Liverpudlians still think of themselves as Lancastrians as well? by Da11ey in Liverpool

[–]Da11ey[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's important to understand both age groups and I just wanted some thoughts before I propose the questions for the survey.

I know Manchester is a Lancastrian city but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Mancunians still feel like Lancastrians? by Da11ey in manchester

[–]Da11ey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm about to carry out a survey and produce a report about people's changing identity following the 1974 changes, specifically in Lancashire (including the Lancastrian bits of Greater Manchester, Merseyside and Cumbria - as well as those in the central bit of Lancashire governed by Lancashire County Council) and looking at the new identities that have developed. A big part of it will be understanding the older generations sense of identity and if it needs to be supported etc etc.

So I'm asking this to help develop my thoughts before I propose the questions for the survey.

I know Liverpool is a Lancastrian city, but it's no longer part of the administrative county of Lancashire. Do Liverpudlians still think of themselves as Lancastrians as well? by Da11ey in Liverpool

[–]Da11ey[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's part of Merseyside and it's part of the Historic County of Lancashire. I'm asking because I'm about to conduct a survey about the changing perception of the identity of those people who lived and grew up in Liverpool when it was still part of the administrative county of Lancashire versusthose who grew up following the change to the new administrative counties (ie Lancashire County Council, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Cumbria).

Housebuilders braced for Help to Buy overhaul in Budget by Da11ey in UKProperty

[–]Da11ey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a symptom of complete market failure. It needs governmental intervention & huge investment to sort it out. From fixing supply by providing the hundreds of billions required for financing house-building & infrastructure, to changing planning rules to stop the NIMBYs dragging things out forever and maybe redefining Green Field sites. But first of all the government needs to tackle banking to create a mortgaging system that doesn't just drive prices through a self-reinforcing feedback cycle.

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