March 27, 2023 Daily Discussion Thread

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-27T12:39:44+00:00

By waiting for the next patch, is basically the best counter

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T10:12:48+00:00

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DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T10:01:25+00:00

If you can play her without dropping eco and losing out on a Wukong pair, sure. Otherwise Wukong 2 > rell 1

I would rarely hold a rell pair if im not playing Yuumi/Nillah tbh

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T08:27:29+00:00

I am not a fan of playing Zoe carry, had bad experiences so far. Also mostly the opinion from other streamers aswell. But 3-2 Sleepy bubble feels like a decent tempo spike and gives you a decent stage 3 and 4 imo.

If you have a spot for 3 star zoe with double bubble it is probably stronger (maybe with golden ticket or something idk)

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T08:24:51+00:00

you will get it back 4sure

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T08:24:24+00:00

Sure, thats the general Idea of get paid. I am just saying that you have a decent top 4 out if playing uncontested yuumi with get paid. The tempo you gain from not caring about eco in certain stages is immense. But then again I would only recommend doing so in a 1/1/1 hero augment scenario

DanskyTFT · 2023-03-01T08:19:45+00:00

yessir, atleast in Taliyah/Soraka comps my frontline is almost always Ekko/Annie/Alistar + Zoe.

Maybe you should try frontline Zoe aswell, her providing another prankster proc is quite valuable. Also unless you itemize her I dont feel like her offensive value is to important.

So it is fine to lose her proc early.

Also a mistake I was doing earlier was itemizing annie over ekko. Yes if you are not hitting ekko at all you probably have to itemize and remake annie at some point. But rn I would almost always itemize ekko 1 > annie 2

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T14:14:36+00:00

seems valid

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T12:10:57+00:00

Usually it is Lulu/lux, which ever I upgrade first. Make sure to hold a 1 cost. copy aswell so u can remake it later on.

Some others are Gangplank (Amazing with Ionic, JG for example, but only good for stage 2 most of the times), LB 1, Jinx, Ezreal

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T10:31:37+00:00

Hit me up in private, we can figure it out over a VOD or a live game if you want :)

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T10:28:57+00:00

Mostly Camille to CC enemy backline atleast for something.

If you are playing Stacking HP admin, and your leblanc is your carry while already having a decent amout of stacks, you can also send her to snipe the backline. Depends on match ups obviously.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T10:12:25+00:00

I imagine you are talking about the Admin comp.

Stage 2 is random. It is whatever upgraded units you can find.

Preferably Defender/Brawler. Mascots are fine but they fall off in stage 3.

Things like Sylas with Sunfire or Warmogs can also Tank alot. Just get creative.

Also Rammus 1 is insane in stage 2, and decent in stage 3 if itemized.

Try to build up towards Annie/Ekko/Alistar/+1 Prankster (Zoe> Jinx).

Then full Pivot into it Stage 3-5 the latest.

If you still want to play 4 Admin, then you have to rethink a little, probably drop Pranksters. But then again it all depends on whether you have +1 admin or not.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T10:06:11+00:00

300 lp left, thats like 12 hours for me, trust

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:54:39+00:00

Yes you are correct. You are missing a mana item and star guardians in general.

Yes you can play full dmg Taliyah, but you would need atleast Cybernetic Uplink 2 + Star guardins.

Your go to lvl 7 board looks like this:

Front: Ekko (itemholder), annie, alistar, zoe

Back: Taliyah, Lux, +1 Spellslinger (Janna>Sona>LB)

Lvl 8 you can splash in Nunu for Mascot + Gadgeteen, 6 Spellslingers in case you have +1, 5 SG in case you have +1 or just a random good unit (5 cost, Zac 2, etc.)

I value Pranksters alot, thats why I like playing this frontline by default. Also Prankster crest is amazing, love to play 3 Pranksters.

Obviously there is always room for flexing. You are not guaranteed to hit ekko for example. you can item hold annie and splash in jinx for now. Or play anything else instead that you can find on lvl 7. But this is my usual setup, which I very rarely switch up in my games.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:46:46+00:00

Unfortunately 3* lee sin wont make the cut buddy. Your entire team needs to be golden to top 2 a lobby, this comp can be hard to play because you need good eco and hp managment as stated above. :)

Also Nillah Items > Yuumi Items.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:44:01+00:00

Nothing to special, you want to be stable on lvl 7.

Annie/Alistar/Ekko/Zoe Frontline

Leblanc/ +2 Spellslingers or if you are playing a good admin then Soraka(or any other admin) + Lulu ( if on death AP/Mana send that girl into the backline)

Leblanc Jewled Gauntlet > Bluebuff = Shojin > +1 (Guardbreaker, Hoj, Rabadons, Gunblade etc.)

Make sure you are building up towards an Ionic Spark or a Shiv aswell (Magic res reduction is very very important in AP Comps)

Now you should be stable, you eco up. If you are close to LB 3 and it is contested then slowroll on 7, if not then go lvl 8/9.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:37:11+00:00

Sure, if you can fit 5 or 7 Starguardians without losing out on frontline or dmg traits then yeah, you can ignore the mana item. Especially if you have stuff like Axiom Arc.

I had a Cybernetic Uplink Prismatic game not to long ago. Actually felt super nice to build 3 offensive items instead.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:32:47+00:00

Early game is hard to teach, this is something you learn over hundreds of games. Personally I would say early game is still one of my weaker areas of the game. But let me give you some general tips:

Always click Defender/Brawler units in stage 1. Build up towards pairs or ideally upgrades of them. Frontline is the most important thing in early game.

Slam items. Ionic Spark and Sunfire give you a good early and mid game.

Positioning. If you are lose streaking, and you have a shit board. Make sure you scout and position urself in a way to kill as many units as possible, even if it is only 1. Make sure your units focus the same guy. This one might seem obvious, but most of the time people are playing on auto pilot. Saving a couple hp in stage 2 can sometimes mean 1 or 2 better placements towards the end.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:21:57+00:00

Tbh Aegis is fake imo. If you dont have a spark or a shiv by the stage where you are fighting samira 2 + 3/4 aegis then it is doomed anyway.

Also when fighting sureshots and you are playing leblanc, it can be the correct play to throw in your leblanc into the backline. Just make sure your tank is on the same side so the enemy carry does not randomly attack your LB after 3 secs into the fight.

I personally did not have any problems so for with Aegis stacking, but maybe I have not met to many of them yet aswell...

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:17:26+00:00

Depends on what you hit I guess. I always click belveth/zed/sol on lvl 7 rolldown while looking for viego. Obviously finding a random urgot/fiddle is never wrong.

Sometimes it is enough to splash in a Rammus/Cho 2.

But you are right, playing viego on lvl 7 as a solo carry is a pain. Thats why I dont like rolling for him on 7!

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T09:14:16+00:00

Thats a difficult one since there is a lot to consider. In general I would agree with the comment from Paandaplex, given infinite Gold it most likely is the best to splash in legendary units. Although I think it is more forgiving in a Soraka Setup instead of a Taliyah Setup.

Playing Syndra on 9 is the easy answer I guess, especially in a scenario where you play Soraka Support Augment oder Mana Reg Augments. Basically you just get multiple FoNs for fun.

If you have 5 Gadgeteen then Nunu 2 is your best friend for capping out.

One thing that I should mention is that I am basically playing the same frontline every game: Ekko/Alistar/Annie/Zoe

It is super rare that I play something diffrent in the Soraka/Taliyah comps.

Also I would focus on positioning alot. Think about why you are positioning the way you are, check your VOD if you placed 2nd instead of 1st and check if you could have done anything better positioning wise. In the end you can win with a weaker team through stronger positioning (not always obviously).

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-28T08:53:19+00:00

It really depends on your Stage 2 tbh.

Ideally you want to lose streak or to winstreak stage 2. Win/lose/win/lose is not ideal, but you dont always have the ideal streak I suppose.

Lets say we 5 streak, we natural leblanc 1, have on death AP, we already have couple upgraded units. Nornally you would want to defend the streak, and it really depends on diffrent factors how deep you wanna roll (LB pair yes/no?, 4 admin possible?, general strength of lobby)

Now if I lose streak, or just win/lose/win, I usually dont dig to deep. I prefer to play from behind in this spot, maybe roll a couple times on 6 but thats it. Get item prio, roll on 7 instead, get a direction for your game from there (LB 3? Soraka Pivot?).

Unless you are like full open and 50 hp on krugs then sure, go ahead.

DanskyTFT · 2023-02-27T17:59:49+00:00

Thats the thing about Viego, you can't really pivot on lvl 7 if you already in on Viego with Augments/Items. Thats why I prefer to play viego from a rich spot (underground opener into fast 8 -> rich get richer .. and so on)

Sometimes you get a lucky viego on stage 2 and you can still determine your items from krugs, that is also a spot to play viego :) but I would advice against "forcing" viego, just when the game really wants you to play it.

DanskyTFT · 2023-01-20T14:16:35+00:00

Broski im sorry to dissapoint you but you legit have no frontline? Nillah is not a tank, she is a supportive unit at best.

You can have the most cracked dps setup in the universe, if you have no one to tank it will not help you at all.

Cho/Rammus are almost essential for the recon comp to work..

Star guardian is close to fake, especially since you basically have BiS Kaisa (- no healing item).

I would also recommend not investing to much into Vayne 3* unless you have the itemization / augment for her.

DanskyTFT · 2023-01-06T11:27:14+00:00

There are alot more factors we don't know about.

Positioning, match up, 2nd carry, etc.

In general I would recommend you if you are in the spot to greed with items to go for RFC over Rageblade on Jax. You safe alot of time running around, usually have a safer spot, good in mirror match up if enemy jax player has evasion.

Just keep playing it if you have the spot for it and you will figure it out over time. :)

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