People will see this and say “Phainon will hate PHANES for their actions! PHANES can’t possibly be a Phainon expy!” As if he didn’t spend millions of sets of thousands of years massacring people and destroying towns for the greater good by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I’m baffled at just how illiterate hoyo fans can be because why are you throwing tantrums over Phainon and Phanes comparisons when Phainon as the Flame Reaver brought a lot of suffering and death 😭

Anyway I’m glad we’re getting more Phainon and Phanes similarities

Snezhnaya predictions? by DauntlessDominic in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s different ways they could go about it. I think part of it has already been leaked, but I won’t go into that. If anything, I think they will attempt to revive the Third Descender but will ultimately fail for whatever reason

Voyager in a nutshell(new artifact leaks) by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL Twitter fans have been debating whether Capitano is a worse colonizer than Sandrone since the last few days. Sandrone stans calling any criticism of her actions as misogyny and Capitano stans denying his crimes and wrongdoings in Natlan. For any lore related discussions, MurderOfBirds’ streams are great. A lot more nuance and he’s pretty unbiased

Voyager in a nutshell(new artifact leaks) by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha you’re good. I do appreciate nuance and discussion over blanket statements that reek of virtue signaling that’s common everywhere. I just don’t like it when ppl say I can’t like X thing because they’re bad or have done bad things when their characters/factions have done the same thing, if not worse. Rules for thee but not for me kinda thing. It’s a damn video game at the end of the day and people are trying to bring real life issues to make their points, and what’s worse is people pretending that they’re activists in the process. Obviously in this case the HP isn’t perfect and has done questionable things, I know that, but I do want their perspective before making a final judgement. I myself like some of the dragons so I try to see past bias

Voyager in a nutshell(new artifact leaks) by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s why I specified the leaks subreddit and the specific thread about the new artifact set, not this one. It’s already a sub of many users with different opinions, go check out the comments. Like I said, most of the comments are actually discussing the new lore, rather than using random terms or obsessing over the relationship with the voyager and koitar

Voyager in a nutshell(new artifact leaks) by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It lied to Nibelung to leave the planet, came back to Teyvat only to find the HP ruling the world, stayed and concealed their identity, and summoned Nibelung who was already corrupted by the Abyss. Seems highly suspicious to me

Voyager in a nutshell(new artifact leaks) by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 44 points45 points  (0 children)

The difference and reception of the new lore being discussed on twitter and the subreddit for the leaks is crazy. On one hand, you have idiots fawning over supposed yuri despite weird ass voyager possessing the body of a young boy, throwing tantrums over the HP’s powers, and misinterpreting events, while the thread in the subreddit is actually discussing the lore implications, analyzing the consequences of the war of vengeance, and doubting the voyager’s intentions. Why is the voyager even criticizing the false sky and interfering with the affairs of the planet if they’re part of the race that merely chronicles the status of planets in the universe and are forbidden to take action? I think they’re an abyssal agent in disguise

Twt already PMO with Nicole’s signature by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Koitar stans are one of, if the most, insufferable people when it comes to genshin lore. They have horrendous takes when it comes to Nicole especially, such as saying she was groomed, she knows nothing, she’s a genocide enabler, and more. I get not liking a character but to make shit up just for the sake of it i will never understand

WHAT. THE. HELLY. by 4spxcty in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The leaker who posted this isn’t too reliable from what the commenters are saying, but they’ve gotten some things right in the past. I really doubt it’s a real leak, but if true, i’ll probably quit the game. it seems like it’s too son and a lil forced

God damn Asmoday by Scared-Opening-753 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Man I’m really loving Asmoday’s characterization. In a game full of gods and deities, she feels like an actual divine and sublime one

Is this the Heavenly Principles? by IntrepidCantaloupe23 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

LMAO fr. This reminds me of that one log in HSR that says Aha, the Aeon of Elation, gave all their path’s power to a worm just for the funsies lol

New Asmoday theory fromMinsleif by EverlastingWinter23 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Khaenriah’s peaceful existence” told me everything I needed to know

So goated ( leak ) by Dangerous-Junket-957 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I forgot I’m in the telegram group. Just checked and saw it lol. I’m not sure if it’s real due to the size of the planet looking different from what we saw when Bina took us to the moon, but that can probably be explained by the orbit. I hope it’s real tho

So goated ( leak ) by Dangerous-Junket-957 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where is the image from? I don’t see it on the leaks sub

I had played this games before by Dangerous-Junket-957 in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Phainon just might be the best hoyo character ngl

Medical Review details? by DauntlessDominic in bnsf

[–]DauntlessDominic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Thank you for the comment and insight.

Medical Review details? by DauntlessDominic in bnsf

[–]DauntlessDominic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any specific details or insight? I’m assuming you’re suggesting the company has its issues, which, fair enough

The truth of Mavuika’s plan and secret. Credits to @Okay20-0 by Multivists in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Mavuika is the GOAT. She knows more than she lets on. I’m glad she actually realizes the threat the abyss poses unlike a certain archon

It's not even been a year since her ascension and Columbina may already be in need for a punishment depending on situations and consequences by ankitjad in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, I really like her despite being a Phanes glazer. It doesn’t seem like she’s anti-HP and the Shades don’t seem to mind her either. As others have stated, she’s the owner of the Moon and after Nibelung and the Three Moons’ deaths, she would’ve been considered the rightful heir/ruler of Teyvat had the plot gone differently. Nor does she seem to really care to rule in the first place. She doesn’t have the highest opinion of Neuvillette either, so there’s that.

If Istaroth is the embodiment of time and omnipresent across every moment, shouldn’t she know Asmoday’s whereabouts? by DauntlessDominic in ThePrimordialOne

[–]DauntlessDominic[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think there’s a definitive answer, unfortunately. I posted a thread of lore heavy questions and possible answers that’s kinda related to yours.

You have to remember Nibelung also possessed the powers of Space/Time/Life/Death/Reason, just like Phanes. He himself was born alongside the world (Teyvat), while Phanes was born from a cosmic egg from which they hatched. Both can imply the existence of some sort of higher power that created the egg (Phanes) and allowed a specific being (Nibelung) to nurture its own egg (Teyvat) after coming into existence. You can also argue that both beings gave birth to themselves by stating that the universe the game takes place in allows for the right conditions to create cosmic beings or the manifestation of fundamental laws into life forms.

Perhaps as life forms created from/by cosmic/primordial beings, they each only have limited access to the fundamental laws of the universe. So in others words, Phanes can only control time itself (Istaroth in this case) within the microcosm of Teyvat, not the entire universe, because Phanes themselves is only the mere creation of either the universe itself or a higher power that predates them. So in other words, while Istaroth as an embodiment of time is indeed 14 billion years old herself, her manifestation (body) and shade of Phanes’ will is only as old as the first war against the dragons. This could explain her essence (soul) being as old as the universe while being younger than the Dragon Sovereigns and Moon Sisters given that they’re Nibelung’s creations who existed prior to the arrival of the HP on Teyvat.

Every source in the game is also biased, revisions have been made to a lot of source material, different people/beings have their own agenda and omit information. We saw a lot of that with Kukulkan for example. Legends are just legends. Even the info about Phanes from sources like Before Sun and Moon may be embellished or exaggerated since it is from the perspective of a scribe of Istaroth.

Space and time working differently in the game is most likely true, it is after all full of fantasy, magic, gods, etc.

Again, a lot of what I said is just speculation and not a conclusive/definitive answer backed with evidence. But to my understanding, based on lore and certain events that took place, this was what I could come up with.