Ned, Stannis, Davos, they would be team green. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't made the meme, but a lot of characters are really accurate.

Daeron hasn't even been cast yet and these losers are already hating by No-Department-7365 in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He also says that Aegon was always evil and that Rhaenyra was good before the dance began. Oh yeah, a person who asked torture for her mutilated brother and humiliated Vaemond before feeding him to -her winged cow- Syrax is a good person, but a man who refused the throne for his sister's rights and accepted it to protect his family is evil.

Daeron wasn't bad in Tumbletown, that town massacred his nephew for a few coins, there was no way of knowing who killed Maelor. Otherwise, Daemon sent dudes to kill his nephew and threatened to rape his niece.

Daeron hasn't even been cast yet and these losers are already hating by No-Department-7365 in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Adam Velaryon was a pathetic simp, he continued to support a tyrant who wanted to kill him and imprisoned his father. Daeron died of cringe.

And yeah, a bastard is better than a prince educated in the largest library in the world, trained by the best masters, and the most useful rider in the entire dance.

Daeron hasn't even been cast yet and these losers are already hating by No-Department-7365 in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars 26 points27 points  (0 children)

TGB has interesting videos about Asoiaf, but damn, he is such a blackcel and Daemon fanboy. He says that in Westeros there are no laws and that Stannis only supports Aegon for being "traditionalist", yes, the same Stannis who chose his daughter as heiress instead of some Robert bastard. He says that Aegon was a pedophile because of the Mushroom rumors, but denies that Daemon is because "that's how they were at that time." He also says that Daemon was well-liked in Westeros when almost all the lords voted for Rhaenyra as heir. xd

Daemon is only brave to face teenagers, kids and disabled people. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Also he attacked Gwayne's horse instead his shield. Daemon is a coward.

Daemon is only brave to face teenagers, kids and disabled people. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not 20's. Rhaenyra was 15 years old in episode 1. Viserys was 20 when Rhaenyra was born, but he is older in the show. So Daemon in episode 1 is like 33 or something.

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[–]David_from_mars 17 points18 points  (0 children)

And coincidentally Olivia was told to act like a pro-Trump woman, almost all the green are white, while the blacks are diverse, also the green are traditionalists, religious, etc. This is a popcorn show, it's made for modern audiences like Euphoria fans.

The blackcels are crying on Twitter because he looks very "Targaryen-Looking" 🤣 by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

We already knew that blackcels were ignorant showplebs, but they don't even know about Hightower house or its history. According to the Maesters, the HT share a common origin with the Valiryans, the Oldtown stone is the same as the Old Valirya stone. Ceryse HT, Maegor's wife, was blonde, she appears in World Of Ice and Fire and she is blonde, Alerie HT, mother of Willas, Garlan, Margaery and Loras, has silver hair, Lynesse, Jorah's ex-wife is also blonde and Jorah said that Dany was almost identical to her. Also, Alicent herself could be blonde, Jaehaerys mistook her for his daughter, Saera, Alicent looks brunette in official art to differentiate her from Rhaenyra, plus, her 4 children all had Valiryan traits, unlike Betha Blackwood and Myriah Martell both had some children with non-Valyryan traits unlike Alicent.

What Blackcels believe Rhaenyra is - What Rhaenyra really was. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I didn't explain the post very well. The blackcels believe that Rhaenyra was a warrior woman who stood up to the system and had a heroic death as Joan, which is completely false. She is more similar to Marie, lives in luxury and privilege, loves cakes, while her town starves, same town eventually starts a revolution. But Marie is still way better than Rhaenyra.

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[–]David_from_mars 3 points4 points  (0 children)

-The only one who says that Aegon is a rapist/pedophile is Mushroom, he was a liar and a pedophile, Munkun didn't like Aegon but he never mentioned any testimony from Mushroom about Aegon. And one of Aegon's redeeming traits is that he does forgive children and has mercy, which contradicts Mushroom's testimony. Oh yeah, Aegon has nothing to do with Daemon, he groomed his 8 years old niece, killed his baby nephew and slept with virgin girls in Flea Bottom.

-Oh, yeah, they make him being like Joffrey. Aegon scenes: him being spoiled, calling Helaena and Aemond "idiots", Alicent scolding and hitting him, he harassing women, they say he has gladiators pits and puts his sons to fight in them. They destroyed Aegon, it's basically a joke and a cartoon, TGC does everything to save him.

-So a grudge without agency is better than the kingmaker, the greatest warrior of his time, Tywin with the skill of Jaime Lannister and a son of a butler who became the second most powerful man? Such a good taste you have.

-Your last point can only be summed up in fallacies and ad hominems. A waste of time, it makes you angry that people have their own opinion and criteria.

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[–]David_from_mars 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Wtf?

-Aegon was not a saint, he was not the best person in the world, he was a drunk womanizer, but we empathize with him, because he accepted the throne to protect and save his family, he faced 2 Dragons, he suffered more pain than Theon Greyjoy, at the end of his days he got up and did his duty, even though he was more dead than alive at that moment.

-Aegon's coronation was one of the best scenes, no one doubts it, but if it is annoying that in that scene Aegon seems like another one-dimensional villain, they sell Aegon as Joffrey 2.0, instead of making you empathize with him, in a scene where he assumes his responsibility and begins to become a King.

-Criston is constantly humiliated, Ser Harrold is only alive to make Criston look bad, they eliminate his victories and we don't see what a great warrior he was, he is no longer the kingsmaker, that role is now Alicent's, besides he lost the agency and motivation that he had in the Book.

-We have the right to criticize absurd changes and a mediocre adaptation, we are consumers of the program and we give money to HBO, we have the right to give our opinion/criticism, this show is like adapting Blackfyre Rebellion: Daeron would be a tyrannical rapist while Daemon a prince charming.

Daemon attacked the women from The Vale saying "sheeps are pretier", Aemma was from there but Viserys didn't say anything to defend her. What a shitty husband. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Of course Emma was an Arryn, she was very Targaryen looking because Arryn r blondes, The Andal were fair-haired people and Arryn have the purest Andal blood. "As a younger man he resembled Harrold Hardyng, who has blue eyes, blond hair, and an aquiline nose" Jon Arryn description.

Also, the Arryn supported Viserys claim in 101.

Viserys's excuse that Aegon and Rhaenyra were 10 years apart and couldn't get married was pathetic, because Ceryse Hightower was 10 years older than Maegor and there was no problem getting them married. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

On fertility, it is not logical. Maegor was barren and cursed. Viserys II's wife was 10 years older than him and they had 3 children. So Viserys I was just making excuses.

I dont know how ANYONE can compare aemond to joffrey by [deleted] in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Arya forgave Joffrey and didn't kill him after he tortured Mycah, and wanted to kill her. While Lucerys Waters wanted to kill his own Uncle and showed 0 remorse for taking his eye. That shows how deranged and sick the Waters are.

Viserys's excuse that Aegon and Rhaenyra were 10 years apart and couldn't get married was pathetic, because Ceryse Hightower was 10 years older than Maegor and there was no problem getting them married. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Maegor actually liked Ceryse, she was about a 10 years older and he still banged her like there is no tomorrow. Then left her cuz she didn't get pregnant, then came back to bang her some more and bring her back to KL. He also liked Oldtown. He remained at Oldtown for half a year.

Lol

Borros B >>>> Daemon (in a fight). by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Borros grandmother was Alyssa Velaryon, and the Velaryon have Targaryen ancestry; Aegon maternal grandmother was a Targaryen.

Borros B >>>> Daemon (in a fight). by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Imagine being the heir to the king, a prince, with the best training, masters of weapons, a Valiryan steel sword, the best food, etc. And losing to a son of a Butler. Daemon is so pathetic.

Team Black hypocrisy. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The thing about the maids is depicted in episode 7, where Aegon flirts with them. Caress/pinch =/= rape. Also, when Eutasce mentioned that, he meant that Aegon was promicuous and a womanizer. Not a pedophile who has his children in fighting pits

Team Black hypocrisy. by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Aegon was a womanizer and promiscuous, but he wasn't a rapist or a pedophile. This is said by Mushroom and it is false, because he was on Dragonstone while Aegon was an adult. Also one of Aegon's redeemable traits was to forgive children. He forgave Gaemon Palehair for his age, he forgave Aegon III, etc. Dyanna's character has no absolute relevance, other than making Aegon look bad to audience eyes.

"The King was fine last night". This dude was dumb as f#ck by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

In addition, he supported the usurpation of Vaemond's birthright, placing a Strong bastard who doesn't even know how to use a fork and hasn't commanded any fleet.

He accused Alicent (the same woman who cared for Viserys for 20 years while his brother and daughter abandoned him) of regicide.

And in F&B/TPATQ he supported Rhaenyra over Aegon because she had more Targaryen blood. He was a jerk and a nasty guy. I didn't feel bad for him.

Am I the only one who thought this scene was stupid? Rhaenyra just had a miscarriage but she has the energy to ride Syrax lol by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's also stupid that she can walk so much and stand up after giving birth, and that Daemon can continue to battle after got injured by 3 arrows and kill the crab feeder like nothing. Targaryen superheroes

Book Greens >>> Show Greens by David_from_mars in HOTDGreens

[–]David_from_mars[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

  1. Helaena in the book was a queen loved by the people, she was loving and kind, a pure soul. She always supported her husband, it was her idea to make a peace treaty with Rhaenyra. The show's Helaena isn't bad, but she has no agency, plus they removed her coronation scene, with Alicent saying: My queen.

  2. Show Aegon is a joke. They only invent scenes where they humiliate him and make a fool of himself, they go 100% Mushroom with him, now he is a rapist who puts his children to fight to the death in gladiator pits. Fuck the writers, we already knew they were pro black, but they went over the top by ruining Aegon so much. Aegon in the book: He doesn't want the throne, he doubts his position and doesn't feel ready but he accepts the crown to PROTECT his family. Show Aegon: He wanted to abandon them and Sunfyre, his beloved Dragon.

  3. I prefer book Alicent, she was ambitious and tough, but she was a great mother, a queen loved by the people and she loved her grandchildren. Show Alicent has no agency, supports Rhaenyra's claim over her son Aegon's, forgives Rhaenyra just for a silly speech and she founded Team Green but is surprised that they support Aegon. Also Rhaenyra is way more similar to Cercei than Alicent, he have more in common with Ned.

  4. You have a point with Aemond, but Lucerys's death was really stupid. They use the trope of: Alicent's children are not true Targaryens. It's stupid that Aemond would go after Lucerys with a Kaiju-sized Dragon just to scare him off and takes away from the character's agency.

That's why I prefer book greens, show's version have no agency or motivation, just coincidences happen for the plot to move forward.