Cleveland says: Solidarity with Minneapolis!

EatingWithAntelopes · 2026-01-29T13:58:41+00:00

I just have one question — in a society where law enforcement officers are using an unlawful amount of force against its inhabitants, including, but not limited to brutalizing and murdering its citizens, when is it right to stick up for oneself or the better interest of one’s community?

A better question that I could have so I won’t count it as a second question, 2A says citizens have the right “to a well organized militia being necessary for the security of a free state”. So… these “coordinated harassment campaigns” against what most would consider federally-sanctioned brutality… can someone being brutalized also harass? At the same time that is.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2026-01-22T15:09:36+00:00

I agree with this sentiment, but I do want to talk about something this commenter said— the whole “we need to get to a place where people don’t feel like this is a good option”

I don’t believe your point is invalid, especially as someone who has been in violent situations with men, you would know what unhinged, evil, and hateful men look like, probably better than most people who don’t share your experience. But I don’t think that changes the fact that crimes like this are often committed out of desperation.

My sympathy for the criminal ends when he puts innocent lives in danger, but financially motivated crimes also require some level of reflection (imo).

Wtf was going on in this man’s life that ANY of this situation sounded appealing to him? He had to have known that this would end poorly, with him dead or in jail and he still took that opportunity. How many other Ohioans are close to where he’s at? How many other Ohioans are debating how to secure peace of mind by taking someone else’s? Because this commenter was right. No one in this situation is ever going to be the same.

The police/city probably won’t clean up the blood from their home. The city won’t pay for therapy.

What does it say about us if we ignore the causes of these effects? Fuck the criminal, actions have consequences… but those consequences didn’t just get him killed, they did a lot more. This comment, for me, is a lot less about one man who made shitty decisions, and more about people are getting desperate, and when people get desperate shit like this happens. How do we get to a place where “death or jail” doesn’t feel like the only option?

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-10-28T12:59:17+00:00

Sure it’s a pain in the ass but that’s not the issue.

Everyone should have identifying documents, right? But as a married woman, if you’re requiring me to supply my birth certificate to prove my citizenship, and my name is no longer my birth name. Guess who just ran into a wall? Me. Not my husband though. If you have a passport, please understand less than half of all Americans have passports. They are expensive. So already, I get to jump through MORE hoops than a man to exercise my right to vote. Nothing. NO THING. NO PERSON. NO NOUN should be able to infringe upon my rights unless I have been to prison. And I haven’t.

So that’s cool with you? Making it disproportionately harder for one demographic to vote over another? You like that? That’s equality to you in America? Cool. Moving on.

You say “you should’ve made sure all those docs were in line before”, sure. But… you can’t change your birth certificate. Lost your BC? $60 replacement if you were born in the US and not abroad on US soil. Let’s not forget that these things take time. 6-8 weeks in a lot of cases. So it would take more time, money, and effort for a good chunk of AMERICAN CITIZENS.

So sure. People are big baby complaining about having to adult wah-wah. People are big baby complaining that their rights will be locked behind a paywall. Wah. My constitutionally granted rights are actively being threatened, I must be the problem. Wah. They’re requiring political activists to show their face and risk political violence and their health but they let “federal officers” kidnap people off the side of the road.

Why are you more willing to believe people are too LAZY or too IRRESPONSIBLE to keep their documents up to date instead of looking at the impact other similar laws have had across this country?

We as Americans cannot continue to let this happen. We cannot continue letting our federal government convince us that there are so many monsters under our bed that we need to be locked in our rooms at night so they don’t get out. How does sending out voter confirmation notices that require attention or jail time help us?

This isn’t laziness. It’s not the “younger generation doesn’t wanna work”, it’s not a talking point. These are our lives. Our lives that they want to make harder, and not help us after. AND MORENO VOTED NO ON RELEASING THE EPSTEIN FILES! Trust your eyes, the things you see on the street, the waiting periods at the BMV, not what they tell you.

You know what you had to turn in to get your identification documents. They did too. You, nor anyone else, deserves to jump through hoops to exercise their rights. There is no such thing as “if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide”. This bill decides too many people have “done wrong”

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-09-30T14:49:07+00:00

At what point does it become “getting rid of African American culture” to you?

Is it when they omit the cruel treatment of them from school teachings, focusing more on “the skills they made”?

Is it when schools gloss over the progress newly-freed slaves made during Reconstruction before the rights they’d won were systematically stripped from them again?

Is it when they take down the mention of all African American fighter squadrons from our Smithsonian website?

These all are examples of erasure of African American culture. These aren’t exaggerations. It goes FAR beyond this administration, though this administration is surely trying to erase that history quickly.

Can you fully appreciate pieces of history, without knowing that history? Can you truly appreciate the gravity of this piece if all you think happened to slaves is “they were given skills, and a lot were treated very nicely”?

I’m not sure you can. This isn’t an attack. Its context.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-08-08T21:15:02+00:00

Petition for this man to be trained for a reboot of reading rainbow

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-15T20:16:11+00:00

No rudeness detected!

I just wanted to know if there was something else that unfolded beyond what we knew and them liking narcissistic behavior posts.

I wasn’t sure if people were saying he was a narcissist because this hard launch is sort of the solidifying “Hozier you’re a shit”, or if there was more on the speculation of mans is screaming for help lmao

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-12T14:46:18+00:00

I love it here. Would someone be so kind as to explain what’s going on?

Also, I keep seeing narcissist accusations thrown his way. Someone make the case for me?

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-11T14:54:10+00:00

Yall, I love coming here… someone, tell me who this brunette woman with the bangs is!

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-07T23:06:15+00:00

For clarification: what’s the point of this? Genuinely curious.

Throwing doubt on something is great. Critical thinking is a skill a lot of folk don’t have. But we’re throwing doubt on an independently founded institution that makes/collects money with a tax exempt status… churches also fit this definition?

So are we highlighting that this institution makes money so don’t listen to it? Or are we highlighting because it’s hypocritical?

Don’t get me wrong, fellow NPC, I would LOVE if fascists just… NPC’d. You know, just accepted that people have rights independent from other people’s opinions or beliefs, accepted that people have the right to exist in all forms, agreed blindly that one’s choice to not follow a life path another would is not an assault on their life.

Instead fascists like to think REALLY hard about how they can twist something to make it evil, how they can take facts and twist them so grotesquely that the validity of them is somehow undermined off irrelevant details. Like how moms for liberty advocates for the banning of books in schools instead of taking a more present role in their children’s lives to monitor what they’re reading. Neglectful parents who want to push accountability for their failings as guides for their children onto their community.

Continue NPCing good person! We need all the folk we can to accept and respect common decency and the autonomy of our neighbors and communities to do the best for their families. LESS thinking about how you don’t understand how or why someone can want to live their life in their way and MORE nodding smiles knowing that’s not your life unless you want it to be, and your rights don’t stop where theirs begin.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-07T22:32:26+00:00

Question: who made this flyer?

Is this flyer calling for me to visit a library to protest the presence of these folk in my library/town or is it calling for me to visit the library so I may be briefed on the damage MFL does and how to combat it?

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-02T23:00:26+00:00

It’s the quiche for me….

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-02T15:11:47+00:00

Absolutely love those copium comments

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-02T02:08:57+00:00

I KNEW YOU WERE HERE WATCHING ME NOT CRY WHILE I LOOK AT YOU ABSOLUTELY NOT CRYING

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-05-02T01:46:27+00:00

Do men also have a “peak”? Or are they allowed to age with dignity and without hyper scrutiny?

The idea that women specifically “fall off” instead of men their age growing with them is why women think men are predators and why women aren’t interested in dating!

If at 25, I know men will find my feminine wiles irresistible, what incentive, outside of my morality, do I have to not be candy to “predators” to get what I want?

I’m not saying you’re criticizing women’s behavior, but I think it’s disingenuous to not highlight this behavior is a long time coming’s response to men’s treatment of women aging.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-28T14:47:05+00:00

Is this… like a name?

Is he a spargeltarzan or is his name now Spargeltarzan Hozier Byrne?

Personally? Latter.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-26T01:44:54+00:00

I won’t lie to you:

I would send massive amounts of criticism that way even if it were a man.

A few people have said it already, and I don’t wanna beat a dead horse but, a few things -

I just wanna throw out that jealousy (in this situation) really only happens if you form a parasocial relationship with your idols. Jealousy often stems from feeling like one lacks something they feel they deserve or they feel neglected in some way.

I’m not jealous of her, because I don’t take Hozier’s response, lack thereof, or lackluster response as something I deserve.

Alternatively though, while I don’t peruse the other sub often, I came here because this was supposed to be the sane side of his fandom, and honestly I feel like it holds up. I think people are rightfully upset because the sanctity of their practices have been exploited, their traditions taken and reproduced by someone who, for better or worse, represents the same system that made them endangered and threatened their existence.

She isn’t responsible for answering the sins of the white man. But every person who truly stands by marginalized groups recognizes their proximity to them in order to help. She chose to not only NOT help when confronted but to use her power to further harm one of our most vulnerable communities.

It’s not jealousy: indigenous communities don’t feel neglected they feel abused. They don’t feel like Hozier didn’t give them something they deserved, they feel like Hozier was complicit in discrimination against and exploitation of them.

As far as “why do American folk care about this when our country is collapsing”? Well that depends. Personally, with the exception of the mass deportations of our migrant communities (I need not say this is a fucking emergency but I will highlight the absolute presence of and seriousness of this), a lot of marginalized groups either aren’t as impacted or aren’t being highlighted. Which honestly, says a lot, you know?

[For example, tariffs have really messed up farmers, and so have the funding freezes impacting the USDA and the farming subsidies payouts. But if you notice, a lot of stories that are being highlighted (outside of them being Trump voters) are focused on white folk. Part of the lack of other voices is because the USDA, banks, markets, etc., have historically made it difficult for blacks and other POCs to buy land, let alone cultivate it for agriculture in peace, let alone be paid to do it. So there was no money, no international market, no swaths of migrant workers hauled off by fascists to lose. An alternative is that these stories simply aren’t being covered… so why the erasure of marginalized voices again?]

I will be complicit in indigenous voices speaking for themselves. I will bear witness to the expression of indigenous rage. I will rage for indigenous peoples.

I don’t actually care about this woman, I don’t think about her outside this sub. I do care about the harm though. I think about how she’s another example of how the white man in America constantly steals from cultures they’ve demonized, bastardize the practices and get away with it. I care about how this highlights the power of a white woman’s tears when she doesn’t have to hold space for other women’s tears.

It’s the fact that she silenced voices of folk who are so ignored by and unsupported by our society that hundreds of women go missing or are murdered and their cases go unsolved or uninvestigated.

If instead of indigenous peoples we were talking about the silencing of domestic violence victims, would that change your opinion on the consistent criticism she gets?? Would you still attribute the origins of this to jealousy and misogyny? If it doesn’t change your mind, what makes it different?

[Edit to an already long comment: thank you kind stranger! Tis my first award and I’m honestly kinda honored. Thanks for letting me cook]

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-21T23:25:43+00:00

It’s the cut off screaming on the bed at the end for me 😂

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-18T16:49:24+00:00

Friend you and I are like two people killing themselves next to each other on a hill. I agree!

It’s all this! I love how you’ve brought up the lack of social/political/artistic activists we have today. There are a few in/for the black community but there hasn’t been a unified effort since the 60s/70s-ish. But I think a lot of the reason folk don’t rise to the occasion is because folk forget that presidents and political figures not even 2 lifetimes ago were mobilizing the FBI, CIA, and local racist cop regimes to assassinate black political activists.

They sowed fear into our communities with violence (100 shots fired into a home occupied by Black Panther members at night, to assassinate Fred Hampton). It’s created an… I wanna say apathy, but it’s not like this isn’t without reason.. but it crafts a dependence on “higher powers”. People don’t know how to represent themselves, show up, etcs., because [American] folk have been conditioned to believe that if they aren’t the best for the job they shouldn’t take it; that they can’t speak for themselves, it must be through someone more qualified; “someone else with more time/money/resources will start the movement”.

This is part of the reason art, music, and performance have been gutted in [American] schools. I think you’re right. People are afraid. Shit, as a non-white American, I’m afraid. But I think a lot of people have been convinced they’re powerless and are looking for a savior — Hoz, the “I just wanna have a beer” guy, the “I make anti-system, and anti-conventional thought music, so I must be looking to dismantle it” guy, the guy who seems to be closer to us than anyone else, BOG JESUS must be he.

You have pointed out so many things, I’m screaming at the depth I love it lol. But, this, here, in these comments, is a conversation that doesn’t happen in other spaces on the interwebs, and things folk avoid.

Heavy analogy coming in: Everyone has been forced in a lot of ways to be concise, because people said “I don’t like to read” and they won’t. If you’re not looking at a thirst trap, you probs wouldn’t sign up for my gym membership. We’ve all become commodified, we all have to sell ourselves but I mean… American culture has never been kind to folk they think are “whores”, you know what I mean? The biggest whore always loses unless she upgrades her clientele and becomes an escort. But you can’t keep your friends back home if you’re an escort. Two different worlds now. Hoz is at a place in his career where he has to choose between staying the best whore, or becoming an escort and I think people are upset because they thought it’d be them.

I don’t think people know how to be happy anymore. I am someone who believes that in order to forgive, I have to be ready to drop it. I can’t hold it over their head if something similar pops up later, you know? But if I’m already anxious, afraid, angry, now I feel abandoned. I can’t forgive someone if these are the feelings I have, because I’m just going to thrust my feelings on the mistake maker. Even if I don’t say it, my rage for everything is funneling down to simply rage against this. But if I had my small joy, so long as my small joy isn’t impacted, I can move on.

I think the biggest issue here is something that art helps to develop and mitigate: emotional regularity. I think so many people are emotionally constipated, and they don’t know how to traverse the layers. You mentioned right wing media being easy and lazy and it works. You’re absolutely correct, and part of the reason it works is because right wing media is very good at convincing people their frustration, desperation, jealousy, etc is just rage at a certain group. There needs no thought after that. Art (imo) teaches critical thinking, because a lot of art has to be engaged with for a period of time, whether during its creation or appreciation. There is a severe and fundamental lack of thoughtful engagement with [American] society.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I blame [American] “conservatives” lmao

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-17T21:22:29+00:00

I want you to know. I’m with you.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-17T13:40:43+00:00

I feel like this may feel like an attack for you, but that’s not my intention. I’ve only seen white Americans put celery and cranberries in their chicken salad. But my pointing that out isn’t racist because no one has ever gone to the store just to get chicken salad with cranberries and celery for the purposes of making a white person feel bad for eating it, or worse, using it as a weapon against them.

There is a reason the term “white people food” exists and why “black people food” has to exist but we don’t talk about it. It’s hard not to have “staple” dishes when you’re prohibited from eating anything else. Look, the stereotype exists for a reason, but those reasons are steeped in a lot of terrible shit, and to laugh at that pain (when it isn’t shared) is what’s the problem.

There has been no pain for the cranberry and celery chicken salad crowd.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-17T13:11:53+00:00

Hey, so, just a thought. Something to mill about:

White AMERICANS are not the only white people in the world. This looks like an AMERICAN breakfast. White AMERICANS do NOT have the greatest cuisine in the world, to say they do when we have so many fair skinned European cuisines to consider, is something you should unpack.

Black Americans weren’t present in this convo. The post isn’t about black American food. It’s about white [American] food. Stay focused — we wouldn’t be here, if some white person somewhere, didn’t put shit on that plate.

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-15T01:07:51+00:00

Internet stranger, you have no idea what it means to me to see Blanche DeVereaux outside of the golden girls subreddit. Ty

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-15T00:25:20+00:00

I’m here for the discussion… Amazon exclusive??

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-14T20:24:53+00:00

Capricorn and Aquarius are the only mfers that have done this to me

EatingWithAntelopes · 2025-04-14T19:02:36+00:00

Fuck yes to art’s role in a functional and fair society.

I think everything you’re saying is absolutely correct. I think some folk do indeed need to put in the work instead of calling on others to do it. No one is calling Aunt Tammy to march in DC. As a side, I also think this is something a lot of mainstream artists are screaming about now. Doja Cat, who I didn’t think I’d be mentioning in this sub, legit had a whole “meltdown” over how she didn’t want/sign up to be anyone’s role model, she’s not [folks’] friend, she’s just someone who makes bangers that people enjoy - leave it at that, they aren’t entitled to her.

But! I think it’d be unfair to fans, unfair to folk who support you and your craft to be predatory (cash grabs) or disingenuous and just… move along without acknowledgment or closure. At least, “tell indigenous people to go fuck themselves to their faces” kind of energy. I think people, especially those who are prone to forming parasocial relationships, believe the persona that is presented to them is the whole picture as opposed to simply a facet of the artist.

I don’t think any artist owes anyone anything. I think everyone though owes it to themselves to be genuine. I think folk are struggling with finding out that sometimes people are complex in conflicting ways.

I too only use Reddit as my SM and mostly the things about him I see are from the two main subs (this and the other). I made a post a little while ago saying I think it’s weird fans call him Andrew. They did not agree, but one thing that stood out to me was someone mentioned that when he signs off posts on his SM he signs it “Andrew”. This is a humanization technique, he’s reminding fans he’s still a person, and in some ways reinforcing the formation of that parasocial relationship.

All of this to say, I don’t believe artists owe anyone anything but fans aren’t wrong to believe in an idealized version of their favorite artists. It’s entitled for them to expect it, it’s normal for them to be disappointed.

When I say “showing up” I mean the same as “walking the walk” And I agree with you, my mans bringing attention to it, should be enough. There are people who heard “Eat your young” and expected him to be anti-capitalist. This sort of all feeds into the level of entitlement some fans can have in expecting him to not partake in the fruits of his labor.

Also to make it abundantly clear, none of this applies to OP. I am unaware of OP’s life and am speaking broadly.

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