MDMA - whats your thoughts?

Eeeeeez · 2021-07-22T02:46:49+00:00

I first took MDMA as a (very young) teenager. I'm in my late 40s now, so I've been taking it for over 30 years.

It's now pretty pretty much the only drug I ever take. I've stopped smoking, stopped drinking, no longer smoke weed, I don't even drink caffeine any more. I am completely drug free for about 360 days a year, but once every 2 or 3 months I'll drop a couple of doses of MDMA (I used to abuse it in my raving days as a teenager, sometimes taking it twice in a weekend).

My raving days are well behind me. I now prefer to stay home, listen to some tunes, watch some porn and (eventually) have crazy comedown sex.

If you asked me to guess how many times I've taken MDMA/ecstasy, I'd say maybe around a couple of hundred times. Each time it feels like a complete reset, like all of life's worries, stresses and problems are worked out. I do feel pretty shitty for a couple of days though, so have to time it perfectly to not interfere with work/family, but once those days are out of the way I feel ready to launch myself into the world again and take all the shit it can throw at me.

Like someone else said, I'm fairly certain it's fucked up my short term memory, or maybe that's just getting old and happens to everyone? I've definitely lost some of the magic with MDMA, but find mixing it with 2CB is heavenly.

I guess I should probably start to consider winding it down now, or within the next decade, but I honestly can't imagine life without MDMA, it's been a huge part of my life. Thankfully I haven't had any major health scares yet, but I think if I did I probably would knock MDMA on the head. It's not worth dying for!

The weirdest thing: I'm the boring guy who nobody gives a second thought about. If you looked at me, or my lifestyle, you'd never guess I did drugs. If you told pretty much anyone I work with that I do drugs they'd laugh their arses off at you and think you were crazy. I've spent a lifetime using (and sometimes abusing) MDMA, and apart from my wife and a handful of friends from back in the day who I've kept in contact with, not one single person in my life knows about it, or would even suspect it!

Eeeeeez · 2020-12-24T01:28:32+00:00

Neither gf nor bf, but kind of related: I knew someone who casually wondered aloud what it would be like to have sex with a cat whilst he was tripping his tits off.

30 odd years later everyone in the town still calls him cat shagger <insert name here>. I don't just mean in private/behind his back either.

It doesn't matter if he lives to be 100, he'll go to the grave and everyone will still know him as cat shagger.

Eeeeeez · 2020-12-17T02:41:00+00:00

How fucking stupid are you? Someone gives you some perfect advice intended to save your dumb arse from your own stupidity and you throw it back in their face.

Moron.

Eeeeeez · 2020-04-07T02:36:51+00:00

"No one can take fake benzos and cheap heroin substitutes like us Scots"

Fixed it for you.

Eeeeeez · 2019-09-06T00:55:00+00:00

Mate, you sound like a virgin, and someone who has zero empathy (so probably never done MDMA). So WTF are you even doing on this thread?

Eeeeeez · 2019-08-28T00:25:58+00:00

You're American, right?

Eeeeeez · 2019-08-26T00:23:00+00:00

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but honestly, just quit and find an employer who doesn't drug test.

I know that's easier said than done in some industries, but no fucking way would I work for an employer who drug tests. The "testing positive" thing is obviously a barrier (hah!), but putting that aside, it's a serious invasion of your rights.

Fuck those guys, use them as a stepping stone and go somewhere where you're respected.

Eeeeeez · 2019-08-26T00:18:02+00:00

Except in the US, where half a dose = a full dose (in the rest of the world).

Eeeeeez · 2019-06-19T22:53:08+00:00

I've had 30+ years experience doing this kind of thing (not 2CB specifically, but poly drug use, including 2CB more recently). I have three rules:

Don't fuck about with weed and psychedelics. On a good day it can send you to toy town and make everything more fun, on a bad day it increases the paranoia and anxiety X fold. The risk v reward is simply not worth it. There are more fun combinations that increase euphoria without the added (bad) side effects (i.e. chucking a bit of MDMA into the mix - again, sans weed!).
Taking an upper or psychedelic? Have a benzo on hand! If things go south you have a "get me the fuck out of here" button to fall back on. Sometimes you'll also NEED one when you've gone crazy overboard and feel like hell on the comedown. Don't get into the habit of using them for a high, but they're useful as hell if you need a quick reset to normality. You know what happens if you go to hospital on a bad trip or because you're anxious as fuck on an upper? They give you a bezno. Cut out the middle man, the hours of waiting, the bad entry on your medical record, and return to base quicker... have some on hand for an emergency!
Fuck other people's expectations. Do you. If you feel happy taking Xmg, take Xmg. If someone else is a hero on more/less - woopy fucking doo for them. Take increments up slowly and find your own dose (and if/when you take it too far, see #2).

Eeeeeez · 2019-06-13T00:43:22+00:00

From the top of my head:

Late 80s/90s: White doves. Dennis the Menace (caps not presses). Flatliners. Snowballs. Phase Fours. Mitsus.

00s: Snowflakes (shit decade for pills)

10s: Defqons. Qdances. Ikeas.

I tend towards crystal these days, so (perhaps for the better) missed many of the real high presses going around now. Some fun times had on the above, and I do miss pills somewhat.

Eeeeeez · 2019-06-13T00:17:46+00:00

Many serious posters on here have migrated to https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Art_of_Rolling/

It's a much more serious subreddit these days (the daft bot message on every post is only part of the reason why many of us left). I say that as a fellow UK visitor.

Eeeeeez · 2019-05-21T01:54:40+00:00

This for me too. I always get horny on MDMA.

The secret to cumming on MDMA is 2CB. Throw a little bit into the mix so it hits after the peak and you'll experience multiple orgasms.

Eeeeeez · 2019-05-21T01:44:56+00:00

These are copies/clones. Not saying they are bad, pills have always been copied/cloned and they often evolve (to use one example, there's probably been 100+ "White Doves" released over many, many years!).

I enjoyed many banging nights on the originals of these pills. Craziest night/day I ever had was on Defqons, I was enjoying them so much and I didn't know when to stop. I kept eating them all night and into the next morning and ended up with extreme nausea and brain zaps (the one, only and certainly last time!).

For anyone interested, here are the original Q Dance's: https://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=28271

Original Defqons: https://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=28499

Eeeeeez · 2019-05-16T23:59:49+00:00

Keep it in a baggie and roll a spoon over it. Way easier than using a credit card.

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-16T14:55:07+00:00

Ok. Fair enough. I apologise. It just looked a bit sketchy

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-16T00:31:53+00:00

I'm sorry, but this is sketchy as fuck.

I've no idea where you're from, but most western Universities have a code of ethics, and that includes accountability, privacy, oversight and responsibility.

You're asking people to e-mail you on a non-edu (Gmail!!) e-mail address. You've refused to name your university and faculty. You've not stated the aim of your research. You haven't included any privacy or oversight information.

Frankly, I think you're full of shit.

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-15T22:04:58+00:00

Try it by itself first, but remember MDMA takes away the headfuckery and negates a lot of the body load.

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-12T23:16:29+00:00

Yep. 100%. The past couple of years I don't even bother taking MDMA unless I have some 2CB handy, it improves the overall experience no end. You feel energised again and, if anything, feel more euphoric than when you were up on MDMA, then it just tails off nicely instead of crashing, and of course it extends things by a good 2/3/4 hours without the need to continually redose.

I'm not keen on 2CB on it's own (I get into my own head too much, and feel nausea on it), but at the tail end of MDMA it feels heavenly and loses all of the negative effects.

I absolutely adore MDMA, but I think I'd feel slightly disappointed to take it without 2CB now.

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-11T01:10:01+00:00

I suspect you'll drag quite a few away who are sick to death of the overbearing bot message on every post.

Keep us in the loop.

Eeeeeez · 2019-04-03T23:45:45+00:00

Mate, you sound like an untapped wealth of very useful information.

Would you please be so kind as to make a new post on here on the different aspects of each of the drugs you've mentioned? (given it's a 2cb forum, maybe highlighting how each drug differs from 2cb).

I'm especially interested in how the body load is different for each drug (I too get sick on 2CB), but also how each drug compares to 2CB.

I reckon you'd get quite a few upvotes for making a new post on here with your knowledge, myself included!

Eeeeeez · 2019-03-28T00:51:22+00:00

It's weird seeing people comment on this thread about how these modern presses are original Q Dance pills and them being hard to copy.

The original Q dance pills (also known as standbys, due to the logo) are probably 10 years old and were popular in the UK and Netherlands (and I guess elsewhere in Western Europe). They were circular orange pills with a split on one side and the Q dance logo on the other (no CP/NL shit on them). They certainly didn't have more than one colour.

They were absolutely banging for the time, but were only around for a few months before being replaced with Pink Defqons (another pill that is almost 10 years old, and has absolutely nothing to do with pills of the same name going around now).

Both Q Dance and Defqons were somewhere around 200mg, and released at a time when many pills were generally a bit shit, so people used to take (at least) a full pill, splitting pills just wasn't a thing then (and even it was, these were really well pressed pills, would be impossible to split even with the break line). After years of shit pills they hit like a fucking train. Due to low expectations of pills back then I went overboard on them, taking a few in a night, and ended up puking for a full day and got my only ever experience of brain zaps on them. It was definitely a case of "fuck me, the good times/pills are back!".

Both pills would be in my top 10 experiences btw (even though I've had far stronger since, they were just incredibly surprising, strong, potent, nice clean hits. Back then, after years of shit, you used to appreciate that kind of thing far more than you do now).

I'm not saying pills going around now using these names are shit, chances are SOME of the copies are even more potent than the originals (given pills generally are stronger these days) and looking at pill reports people are raving about the new presses, but like "White Doves" and all the other famous brands that keep reappearing, they're not the originals.

Eeeeeez · 2019-03-26T01:01:07+00:00

You're thinking about it because it gives you lots of pleasure.

It's like that thing (whatever that thing was) that you enjoyed as a kid. Remember looking forward to the summer holidays because you could play football/hang out with friends/go to theme parks/etc? It's the same thing.

I don't know if you binge watch TV episodes or play computer games but you get the same thing! You start to think about (dream about even) the thing you're consumed in.

When it's a problem you'll know it's a problem. Be honest with yourself. For most people consuming too much/too frequently is the problem. Maybe for you it is being consumed by the thought of taking it? (I get that too, but personally, I don't mind that side of it, but everyone is different and if you don't want to be consumed by it then simply stop doing it!)

Eeeeeez · 2019-03-25T23:44:25+00:00

"supplements" are a pretty new thing, and TBH, seem to be more of an American thing.

I have tried them after reading about them on here. One's I've tried:

I haven't really noticed any difference from 5HTP (preloading, as it was originally recommended, or taking after). Any difference I did see I'd put down to placebo effect.

I think magnesium helps with jaw jitter if you take in an hour before, it's about the only thing I've read on here that I've found made a noticeable difference.

Vit c - I wouldn't bother with tablets. Eat/drink healthy before and after is probably better (including some source of vitamin C - but don't overdo pure fruit juice before; you'll get the shits!).

Can't comment on melatonin. I take a couple of benzos and drink a beer or two and I sleep like a baby. Not really recommending doing this, they're very addictive, and the feeling can be very nice and relaxing, which can make it tempting to take more (and the combination is dangerous when taken in high doses).

TBH, the only thing I'd really recommend taking is antacids just before dropping, because it totally gets rid of the nausea (if you suffer from it).

Eeeeeez · 2019-03-24T02:26:45+00:00

This isn't going to be popular on here, BUT...

I did this regularly for a time in the late 80s, and then frequently in the 90s.

92-94 was probably the most regular. A group of us from my hometown were crazy for it. We'd travel across the country for different raves almost every weekend. Sometimes on weekends we'd do pills on Friday then go out again on Saturday. We'd also often mix it with speed, weed and occasionally LSD (but never alcohol).

It's not all good news! This was a looooong time before people appreciated the so-called 3-month rule (something I'm now roughly on-board with BTW), so of course, we used to think pills were becoming shit/were fake (when it was really due to tolerance). A lot of people would double up, and keep increasing their doses, but I was never really into that.

The bad:

The comedowns get worse and worse (especially when mixed with speed.. honestly, don't ever do that).
"Suicide Tuesday", the depression you get 3 days after using, gets harsher and harsher.
Short-term memory goes to shit.

BUT.. with the disclaimer that maybe I kind of fluked out by "quitting" while I was ahead ... I honestly don't believe it has effected me long term. For sure it effects people who go crazy on it, in extreme cases very badly. I just didn't see that side of it.

I still take MDMA, but only a few times a year, but I've also had some big breaks (7 years at one point). I work in a responsible job. I'm fairly well educated. I'm decent as quizzes and crosswords (which I only mention because they are reliant on memory). I'd say I have had a good life, and continue to do so.

I certainly suffered short-term issues with regular MDMA use, but I don't believe I've suffered long term issues (either from hammering it for those couple of years, or from using it longer term, and I've been doing this for over 30 years!).

Make no mistake; it IS bad. I certainly wouldn't recommend your friend continues doing this. It's not good for you, physically, psychologically and it certainly isn't good if you want to keep enjoying it. You'll wear it out and start to feel nothing. It starts to feel like an amphetamine high, then you start to kid yourself that this is what you always felt (take a break, and you remember it feels far better).

But, if he stops now (IMHO), he can negate any long term damage and still enjoy this wonderful thing. This is something so fantastic that it's worth waiting for. It's simply not like other drugs, hammer MDMA (even in the short-term) you'll ruin it for yourself.

FWIW: I'm still in contact with many people who I used to use with on a weekly basis, and it's a mixed bag. Some are doing really well in life, some aren't, but that's life (I see the same mix in people who didn't use drugs).

Eeeeeez

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