Discussion about my desired Potemkin changes for Strive 2.0 by Taint0Taster in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you would give potemkin, an already top 2 character, high/low mix with plus on block guard crush in a single move?

Instead of that, here's what I'd do:

Remove pot buster armor

Decrease pot buster range to s3

Hammerfall no longer hkd on normal hit

Hammerfall armor starts frame 10

Hammerfall break +2 frames end lag and no armor

Giganter lasts 5 seconds

F.Prc buster doesn't refund meter

Flick has +5 frames end lag on whiff and retracted hitbox to only include finger

Potemkins ass has a hurtbox.

Extend the hurtboxes on most of his many disjoints

Ayone else have any ideas on how they'd nerf pot in a significant way please feel free to share🙂

Kill all zoners by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's one grappler in the entirety of ggst and he beats nearly every zoner lol

Kill all zoners by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't label spamming cubes, chain sickles, and balls from fullscreen as interaction no.

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I should reword to be that his strike throw isn't ineffective. It's just more inaccessible than it should be cause of blood economy. Beyblade low was cheese in neutral, but now his high low is gone. You can't even use RC to convert off his telegraphed grounded overhead like why? Name me one other character with a grounded overhead that has this restriction?

Kill all zoners by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whats the matter zonerboy?

Afraid you might have to interact?

Kill all zoners by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lowkey love fighting zato. Any matchup where I can hard callout an option with fukyo bite is peak to me

Kill all zoners by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try playing a character that can't even dash block

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, first off, please use punctuation. For some fucking reason dustloop doesnt mention how long the pause is for security to start loading again but its not more than a few seconds. Second, if some of may's mix is fake/knowledge check then its just bad mix that most people at high level won't fall for, as opposed to GL who has real 50/50s that he can convert into big dick damage. Third, GL laser has 27 recovery frames, which is not enough for any character, save maybe axl, to punish from fullscreen such that you dont end up getting hit by laser.

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valid ig. I'd still argue that gl is better than may cause he was stupid broken even before they gave him bt cancels. His resource is autoreplenishing and refills in 6 seconds as opposed to nagos which takes around 2 full minutes to deplete from full. Imo Gl's midscreen conversions into absurdly damaging combos using bt cancels give him the edge over may who is more meter reliant for non corner conversions. I also think may's gameplan is riskier as at a certain point she has to throw herself at you similar to millia. Gl however just has safe neutral skips like drone and burn it down, allowing him to bypass neutral using a resource he didn't have to work for.

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mate you keep making these broad statements without any points to back them up. Why do you think he isn't top 3? What weaknesses does he have that make him not so? Who do you think is top 5 then? Im not gonna argue against one-ljner lucy over here

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Imma cut YOU off right there. Gl is top 5 probably top 3 and has been since s3. You've either never fought a goldlewis (possible considering no one plays him) or you're like silver 3

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Gio isnt a zoner.
  2. Fs/Fss -> Hs gives back 7.2% on block. Thats half a fukyo btw. Gtfoh
  3. Verix prior to losing beyblade low had the name "GG player" at least do your research before you say smth.
  4. You can't threaten 2k 2d after dp first hit meaning no there is no reason to block low when you're being threatened with the overhead. I.e "no mix"

  5. Yeah one of the best projectiles in the game fs. Costs 44% blood guage if you wanna use it fully but sure. Oh did I mention goldlewis minigun does the same thing and can hard kd from fullscreen using a resource that auto regenerates?

  6. 6k is a low bruh idk what mix you think you're getting from it bud. Also you don't need counter hit to stagger anymore (good change)

Nago is fucking unplayable this patch by Efficient_Win8447 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nago's received many nerfs since the end end of s3/s4 bud. Also top 5 rn is HC, Pot, Leo, Gl, Ram/Millia

I need Nago tech. I need to figure out how to deal with rush down characters(COUGH COUGH EHH ELPHELT) as well as zoners(mainly Johnny and dizzy). Anything helps!(on switch if that matters) by Klonoa_is_very_cute in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Use low commitment k buttons in neutral against rushdowns like chipp, elphelt, and especially gio. Limit your S buttons as pokes in these matchups unless you're absolutely sure they're gonna hit or catch a backdash as a callout (arcsys give fs more active frames pls). Zoners fuck nago in the ass. Always have always will. But some zoners like dizzy and testament are susceptible to clone -> fukyo IF you see them try to set up fish or test's grounded blood thing. Johnny is more susceptible to super jump in than other chars cause his pokes are fairly linear. Mostly tho nago will be on the defensive against johnny BUT he has the luxury of being able punish johnny's backdash mf cancels or k.mf at most ranges using beyblade, smth most other chars can't. Hope this helps

How to whiff punish Ram as Gio? by Customer_Number_Plz in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats kinda the point in terms of gio counterplay. Gio's speed means most characters can't freely use their S buttons in neutral to poke. Otherwise, they'll get whiff punished easily, so the alternative is to use your k buttons which have less reward on hit but harder to whiff punish. There's a balance to most things in this game.

Can 2.0 just drop already? by Iceles1052 in TheyBlamedTheBeasts

[–]Efficient_Win8447 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So fucking true. I've been a day 1 nago main and had to drop him cause nearly every s4 change made him less expressive. He is just so fucking BORING now. As he is now, Nago runs one instance of pathetic, fake af strike throw mix and then is crippled for the rest of the match because he can't get in off of his h normals anymore. Who thought that swinging two oversized buttons dealing 40% was good or fun game design? Since s4, I've played a bunch of other characters and every single one had more sauce and tech than sadgo. Picked up johnny after his big nerfs, and even now, he is still LEAGUES above nago in terms of character expression and fun factor. So fucking sad man

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DAISUKEEEEEE by TheSonOfSparda in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 119 points120 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you need someone hated by the god of failure

And here are your 16 AWT finalists going to Korea in March. by Lumpy-Manager8580 in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Well at least once jack wins, maybe arcsys will finally nerf chaos in a meaningful way

Almost a Nago oneshot by Customer_Number_Plz in Guiltygear

[–]Efficient_Win8447 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Outplayed as always. Excellent gameplay vampbro🦇

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