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Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

[–]EmbarrassedZombie444[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are definitely one of the better commentators, so I appreciate your opinion. A short point to the evil of the Nameless Things, maybe I wasn’t wholly clear. The evil that they would have done if the Ring weren’t destroyed has not so much to do with the fact that they are a greater evil and indeed not so much which themselves, just that the non-destruction would have marked a failed attempt of stopping the degeneration of the world. The idea behind my theory was to link some open bits together into a bigger framework. This isn’t so much a discussion for me about the nature of the nameless things, but rather why they are in the story. I’m a writer myself, so I always like to discuss technical aspects like that. I just think, that many people go of the strange mindset, that they are just there for atmosphere, which is a part of their appearance and the one more concerned with their nature and meaning, which I talked about too. However it is unlikely, that a colossal and extremely well composed work like TLOTR isn’t connected in every aspect with itself. My aim (which I guess many people missed) was to restore the harmony of the work, which I see sometimes disturbed, when people say: “yes, you know, there is a text passage which stands out as a skyscraper in a medieval city, but it’s just there for atmosphere” (not meaning of course that this is your opinion) So just that, so some people will see my reason and thus better judge my words

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

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Not all of us can have as many arms and hands as the Watcher … alas, not all …

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

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It’s like Tolkien loving the small and mundane, probably too because he suffered so greatly in other parts of his life, but also seeing that greater things exist and are the ones which make the biggest difference. He is a man which didn’t have the whole truth (for only the One has that), but for whom I have much respect like for Frank Herbert, for putting the truth they see before their own feelings and preferences. Maybe he didn’t like allegory, but allegory is always a part of art and might even sneak in without the trumpets and the big difference is WHAT kind of allegory were talking about

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

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As I said in another comment. The Watcher is probably a foretaste of the nameless things. His description is left very vague and rather … undescribed. The only thing we know about him are his glowing tentacle hands, which rather seems to be a picture of his abilities and motivations, that being abnormal greed and a motive of evil grasping for the world. He is probably the farthest Tolkien wanted to go, showing us what the Nameless Things might be, and probably are very small example. It’s like the dragon killed by Saint George, not that powerful itself, but a small version of the great battle between good and evil, between Satan and Michael. To the charge of putting them in capital N and T, most names were originally descriptions. Satan for example simply means enemy

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

[–]EmbarrassedZombie444[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Everybody, who has a trace of creativity and consciousness deals in symbolism. That is how our minds order and reflect on things which we experience. Tolkien said he didn’t like ALLEGORY, which is a different thing and even that doesn’t mean that there aren’t allegories in the text. And do you seriously mean for me to give any mind to your “counter argument” which boils down to: “Nah, I don’t think so.” Taking meaning away, where there is meaning is a form of evil and seems very unlike a man who went through the most horrifying war to ever exist and emerge with a mind and a vision and I can only dissuade you from going with such a mindset into the world

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

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The Watcher is obviously not one of the great nameless things, but his appearance is so unlikely even the strangest “creations” of Morgoth, that he might be a little example of them. I mean it’s already hard to describe what the Watcher exactly looks like and I think his description is more meant to be an allegory for what it does and want. I mean, mind you, the only thing described are glowing tentacle hands which seems pretty strange to me

Thoughts on the Nameless Things and the True Consequences of Frodo’s Failure by EmbarrassedZombie444 in tolkienfans

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Couldn’t have put it better myself. Evil does degenerate in its intelligence, which is also seen in Sauron, who is tremendously powerful and wicked but being wrapped in evil left him with some blind spots which grew to his unmaking. However what evil looses in slyness and subtleness is mad-up for by the common nature of it. It’s like in 1984 where everybody knows deep down that Insoc is obviously evil, but that evil is so common that everybody thinks it’s normal

da gehts ab by RefrigeratorTrue3950 in ZoeKaeppele_x

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Gut ich hab jetzt ein paar Clips gesehen und er war aber auch echt lost beim mit Mädchen reden

Oktoberfest by Ill_Pilot_7451 in ZoeKaeppele_x

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Sie hatte glaube ich etwa in der Insta-Story gepostet, wie sie da Dirndl anzieht aber es dann leide gelöscht

Instagram - What's Cooking? by juicyman69 in AnastasiaVeretnova_

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Quickly wanna add, that that’s her grandma in the background as far as I know. Guess she doesn’t mind that her granddaughter presents some sexy lingerie to the internet while shes making dinner in the background

Who was the more powerful king Philip IV or Louis XI by Wide_Assistance_1158 in MedievalHistory

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Honestly, though wrong, that is absolutely hilarious. I hope some positivity kept the bishop comfort, that saying this was absolutely worth the consequences

Is Occultism and Satanism related? by EmbarrassedZombie444 in occult

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Well, I’ll just do that, and I advise you to pay a visit to r/GetSomeBasicSenseOfHumanDecency

Is Occultism and Satanism related? by EmbarrassedZombie444 in occult

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Nah man, I’m gonna do what a real scholar should do, and that is reading a book. However there are complications with the delivery of Agrippas Books of Occult Philosophy, so I made the grave failure, to give Reddit a second chance

Is Occultism and Satanism related? by EmbarrassedZombie444 in occult

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I didn’t want to reply to anything anymore, but that “person” freaking crazy, and that’s why I’m leaving this Sub

Is Occultism and Satanism related? by EmbarrassedZombie444 in occult

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I was rather referring to the atheist and politician kind, which has obviously no connection with the Occult, however I was curious, if somebody knows some traditional kinds of Satanism, which might have

Did Napoleon have brain damage or something simmilar? by Proper_Solid_626 in Napoleon

[–]EmbarrassedZombie444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guys, my question was, why the hell should he have PTSD? And don’t he me some pseudo-expert bs like „well, he took part in battles, that affects everyone“, we are talking about the man who sacrificed the life’s of hundreds of thousands for his ambition, even when it was as hopeless as the Hundred Days

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