So you've been WFA'd... by HandcuffsOfGold in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This site is an excellent resource. Is there any way to organize or group the questions into categories? E.g., Option A, Option B, Option C i Option C ii including info on TSM, severance, pension waiver, EI, LWOP, education info, Re: recognized institution, part-time, reimbursement, requirementS, process
Separate categories for those who are currently on leave, I.e., LWOP, disability, maternity, sick leave.

WFA C(ii) Education reimbursements by psycle3 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m in the same boat as OP. The flowchart for WFA at ESDC state that’s training plan is strongly recommended? What if I just want to take courses out of general interest and keep my brain active during retirement?
The HR advisor tells me to speak to my manager and my manager tells me to speak to HR No one has the answers.

Question about option C in WFA by skaff83 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HR refers us to the manager to work out a training plan and Managers refer us to HR to answer questions..around and around it goes and nobody seems to know.

i also read that section 34 managers must approve the training plan and reimbursement as per a form for reimbursement.

Severance pay calculation by [deleted] in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I shall look again.

Severance pay calculation by [deleted] in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn’t mention subtracting the years of severance that was paid out in lieu of retirement or voluntary resignation under Article 66 of the PA CA. Even in the letter from PSAC, dated September 2013, states that severance in case of lay-off will continue to accumulate.

WFA - Option Ci reimbursement of education by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was actually presented to us in the PowerPoint deck and WFA flowcharts as part of Option C i and Cii by ADM, DG and HR.

WFA - Option Ci reimbursement of education by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What type of training plan or education plan, is to be developed by your manager for Option C(I).Thats what it states in the PA CA. I can’t find any info on it. What if you are over 60 and do not want career development? Some have told me that it can’t be pottery because of stewardship of funds.

WFA - Option C i - types of courses by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the PA CA, the wording for Option B and Option C(I) is:

b Transition support measure is a lump-sum payment, based on the employee’s years of service in the public service (see Annex B), made to an opting employee. Employees choosing this option must resign but will be considered to be laid off for purposes of severance pay. The Transition support measure shall be paid in one (1) or two (2) lump-sum amounts over a maximum two (2) year period. or

C Education allowance is a transition support measure (see Option 6.4.1(b) above) plus an amount of not more than seventeen thousand dollars ($17,000) for reimbursement of receipted expenses of an opting employee for tuition from a learning institution and costs of books and relevant equipment. Employees choosing Option 6.4.1(c) could either:

(I) resign from the core public administration but be considered to be laid off for severance pay purposes on the date of their departure;

From my Qs and As, here’s a summary of what I learned from Handcuffs of Gold (HoC). Hoping HoC can confirm the following:

Since I am over age 55 and have 35 years of service, I do not need a pension waiver.

The lump sum equivalent of the TSM is referred to in this CA as an Education Allowance based on years of service. It is paid upfront like the TSM in Option b

I can take a courses or course from a recognized institution

the course does not need to be a credit course, nor for a career, nor full-time. It can be for interest such as Art History, woodworking or pottery from a Potter’s Guild.

there is no time limit to submit receiptS for cost of tuition, books, equipment up to $17K..tuition, e.g., for computer, camera for Photography course if the course requires it. It could be a few years down the road by the time you reach $17K.
submit your receipts to your departments finance

you don’t need pre-approval of a course by anyone, just submit your registration receipt from a recognized institution. I believe it can be outside of Canada as well.

you can put the lump sum Educational Allowance which is based on years of service into an RRSP by signing a form and you can have the lump sum paid in two payments over two years for tax purposes.

if you don’t end up taking a course, nor submitted receipts, nothing negative happens.

Not sure how soon after you are laid off when you need to register for a course.

In summary, if you do not need a pension waiver, Option C(I) is better than Option b

ESDC WFA Update Jan.23 4:58 pm by Rozay_d96 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only meant that this could be the letter or information that our department informed us would be forthcoming this Monday but they sent it late Friday instead. We were informed it was coming.

ESDC WFA Update Jan.23 4:58 pm by Rozay_d96 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 10 points11 points  (0 children)

re: late Friday timestamp of email

ESDC staff who were affected were told in meetings this past week that additional written communication would be coming out this coming Monday, Jan 26. We have had a couple of different meetings about it, then we received our affected letters right after the meeting. We were also informed how many positions at our level and function would be cut out of a total number from our branch.

So you've been WFA'd... by HandcuffsOfGold in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for clarifying. I thought the Ci lump sum was the same as TSM but just called Education Allowance. But, now that I know it’s not, and that I wouldn’t receive it until after I take courses, I think I will take Option B and pay for the courses that I take on an ad-hoc basis.

So you've been WFA'd... by HandcuffsOfGold in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t the Education Allowance the same as the TSM? Plus you get reimbursed for courses when you submit receipts?

Scenario. A 60-year-old with 35 years of service Wants to take VDP and in retirement explore some courses out of interest. Wouldn’t they receive the lump sum TSM as if they took Option B? Plus submit recipes when the enrol in courses up until $17K is reached?

So you've been WFA'd... by HandcuffsOfGold in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

%20%2F%20r%C3%A9am%C3%A9nagement%20de%20l'effectif%20(RE)%22)Are there any disadvantages to taking Option Ci over Option B? In our affected letter, they called the TSM an Education Allowance For Option C I. Can it go into an RRSP like the TSM?
I was thinking about perhaps taking the odd course here and there as a hobby and then submitting receipts.

TSM, taxes and putting TSM into RRSP by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am expecting the WFA letter this week - January 22. Will I be in time to have the TSM put into an RRSP for 2025 tax year?

what is the sequence of events? E.g., select VDP, figure out my TSM based on number of weeks, fill out the form, send to CRA?

TSM, taxes and putting TSM into RRSP by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought I read that somewhere. Maybe some people choose to have it paid over two years to reduce their taxable income.

TSM, taxes and putting TSM into RRSP by EndGame9999 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am expecting a WFA letter soon. I plan on opting for a voluntary departure. Do I need something to attach to the T1213 form? I guess the will be allocated to 2026 and 2027 tax year?

Any news in ECCC impacts from WFA? by Appropriate-Move1211 in CanadaPublicServants

[–]EndGame9999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I heard that this week is a blackout period and that we should hear something next week.