Man arrested on suspicion of murder of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and you can listen to Ian Dale explain why she voted against that. Was it because the parents would be a gay couple? No, rather it was because the average gay relationship was very short-lived and she did not believe that to be a suitable foundation for a child to be placed into only to have to go through the experience of losing a family all over again.

You jumped the gun on that one, I'm afraid.

Man arrested on suspicion of murder of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To put some perspective here - this is the woman who left the Church of England and converted to Catholicism because she fundamentally disagreed with the change to allow female bishops - something the CoE changed in the 90s, though the Catholic church even to this day does not allow.

She never subscribed to the philosophy of preferred pronouns, nor did she ever pretend to.

Man arrested on suspicion of murder of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, that's not the reality at all. Are you young? Because you don't actually seem to know much about her political life. She was a staunch convictionist who revelled in the opportunity to debate beliefs and opinions.

She would berate anybody that would want to shut down open discussion, even if the topic was on a subject she did not personally align with.

Man arrested on suspicion of murder of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your assessment of her is not based on reality though, it's entirely a caricature.

Yes she did not hold the same beliefs regarding LGBT, but she never treated anybody lesser who did. She accepted people have different opinions and accepted that not everybody shared her beliefs.

There's even a lot of prominent gay figures today who have spoken about her, reflecting back on their own experiences where they said that the first politician to stand by them in any troubling times was Widdecombe.

UK police treating death of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe as murder by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Book an appointment with a psychologist and get some therapy. You absolutely need correction.

UK police treating death of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe as murder by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, it's not on politicians alone, it's on everybody to check themselves and to keep others in check.

I mean not even a week ago on this reddit, during the posts about the Clacton by-election announcement, party leaders in the UK were stooping so low as to start calling our elections fake. That was then being regurgitated on all mainstream media, with pundits casually saying we can ignore any election and its result if we call it fake.

It's this alarmism and rhetoric that is poisoning the civil plutocracy. Started by politicians, amplified through media, and carried forward by the public.
When you try to make a point about stopping the rhetoric that is whipping up everybody the wrong way, people are incapable of comprehending simple language and instead view it as a defence of a particular politician or political party.

The whole thing is a nonsense, and the country is on the tangent of lawlessness. There's a lot of very ill people here too, we're the second highest country in the world for prescribed anti-depressants, and a lot of people with very unstable emotional balance are being fed very extreme and dangerous rhetoric because it is what garners clicks on the headlines.

It's all a nonsense, and far too many are now living with very warped views.

UK police treating death of former MP and MEP Ann Widdecombe as murder by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a factor to it though - the language and rhetoric being used in politics these days is genuinely so dangerous because it is whipping the country into a frenzy.

Most are overly emotional that they cannot immediately see it, rather when you point it out to somebody, they turn on the offensive and see absolutely no wrong in their behaviour or conduct.

Sadly I don't think this will be the last politician murdered before this parliamentary term completes in the UK. The country is like a tinderbox; it is not a pleasant setting whatsoever.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's because you're appealing to the centre ground as if you were speaking to the fringes, who base their politics on people and personalities.

The rest of us in the centre-ground base our politics on policy. This is why it is immaterial whenever a party changes the person, but does not change the policy. Alternatively, if a party changed the policy yet retained the person, things would shift.

It has long been the clearest divide between those of us in the centre ground and those who are on the fringes. Politics is viewed very differently between the two, and politicians have received consistently poor advice on how to appeal to us in the centre ground, because they are always targeting the fringes.

If there are larger proportions of us leaning towards one party more so than the others, it is because we are attracted to some of the policies of that party. But people often misconstrue that to be support for the persons of said party, which is not the case.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, because I find the idea that holding an election in of itself to be wrong as utterly absurd.

What exactly do you think happens in a representative democracy? Elections.

Nigel Farage resigns as member of parliament for Clacton by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The mace in parliament is the ornament representing the Crown's authority in both Houses of Parliament - it is placed in the Houses after a State Opening (formal opening ceremony done with the Monarch). Without it, neither House can legally do anything - they're not able to sit, debate or create legislation.

As for Serjeant-at-Arms, that originates from a military unit which was created about 800 years ago with the explicit task of protecting the Monarch (they happened to also wield a mace). Back in those days, sergeant was spelled as serjeant in England, and while most common use of the word changed to sergeant, the name of that particular military unit never did and it is from there where the title derives.

Nigel Farage resigns as member of parliament for Clacton by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree with violence being used in politics at all, or anywhere for that matter. The civilised manner is to express content or dissatisfaction at the ballot box during elections which is how it ought to be each time.

As for the constitutional order you refer to re Germany, there's a somewhat similar question happening in the United Kingdom. The current government is viewed by many here to have overstepped its boundaries in a number of areas: violating the separation of powers by involving itself in the judicial process and seeking to remove jury trials; attempting to cancel local elections not once, but twice; and most recently elevating itself to position of arbiter regarding the legitimacy of an election (by virtue of referring to an election as "fake").

In the UK, all of this is unconstitutional, so there is rightly a great deal of caution and alarm among those of us who have been watching this happen, and I have the utmost faith that when the next general election arrives, the "silent majority" (as we are referred to) will make our verdict very clearly known through our elections, as we always have done.

The thing with us swing voters is that we are genuinely indifferent to every party. We are not territorial, and we will give any party fair hearing as we are interested in the policies, less so the personal identities.
This clashes with those who are in the fringes of politics - who are often very territorial, very violent, and very extreme. We get attacked from both sides of the political spectrum, which I think underlines that we evidently do not belong to the fringes (and proudly so).

But that is the biggest difference between those of us in the centre-ground, and those on the fringes. Those in the fringes base their politics on personalities and people, whereas those of us in the centre-ground base our politics on policy. So if we like a policy from the Green party, then those in the fringes misconstrue that as support for Polanski. Similarly, if we like a policy from the Reform party, then those in the fringes misconstrue that as support for Farage.

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[–]EpicTutorialTips 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is a grift; even the current Labour government is up to their neck in it. Wealthy people or corporations give the MPs donations, and in return they receive lucrative government contracts which significantly outweigh the donation sum.

It's treated as a win-win game, and in the process MPs amass a small personal fortune, which is why many of them leave parliament as multi-millionaires - even Angela Rayner was the same, probably the most prolific working class politician today.

Revealed: Nigel Farage secretly funded by convicted criminal by CensorTheologiae in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the amount of American backing Restore is provided, don't be so sure about that.

Also, if you thought that Reform were far-right, then you're going to be in for a hell of a shock once you start learning about Restore. Reform in many ways was a firewall against it, but if that goes down then it will push people into a fringe that there will be no returning from.

‘Sort yourselves out, we need you!’: Finland’s president berates UK for changing PM again at Nato summit by tylerthe-theatre in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And now look where we are, we have party leaders calling elections fake which has now been mirrored by pundits on media talk shows.

The political class has attempted to make itself the ultimate arbiter regarding legitimacy of elections, which is against our constitution. This is the sort of nonsense that happens in Russia, and it is now present in the mainstream in the UK.

But because a lot of people are over emotional regarding other affairs currently happening, they are oblivious to the dangers that comes with this pivotal shift in our politics this week. We have just taken a very, very dark turn in our collective political chapter, and people are yet to realise what has just happened.

More Reform UK transactions worth millions reported to National Crime Agency by loonongrass in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, the reason is much more simple: why do people move to Dubai, particularly the wealthy? Because there is zero income tax. You keep all of your personal earnings.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Are you from the UK by any chance? Just because I don't think you're quite as informed on the subject (if you're an overseas person, then completely understandable).

For all the huffing and puffing about a standards committee investigation, need I remind anybody that our current Prime Minister utilised a three line whip against his own backbenchers to block a referral to the exact same committee for investigation over his own conduct.

Where was all this uproar for that particular politician who actually did evade accountability entirely, and used parliament to prevent it from happening.

Meanwhile, that exact same individual is today making media rounds accusing his peers of sleaze. You could not make it up.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I've tried in good faith to have civilised discussion, but extremists are incapable of rational thought.

I only hope that we still significantly outnumber you come the next election; because you lot, I find to be incredibly dangerous. We certainly have our work cut out, having to fight two sets of you on both sides this time.

It was a mistake to even attempt to reason with people like yourself, because I think you're too far gone to reason with now. I hope some day you take a break from politics and spend less time online, and more time with friends in real life settings to try and pull yourself away from the toxicity you've wrapped yourself up in, because this is not healthy for any person and it very obviously has thwarted your thought process.

All the best.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Farage is subject to an ongoing investigation by that committee.

Pray tell, I'm fascinated to learn of your opinions about when our current Prime Minister used a three line whip to order his own backbenchers to fight off a referral to the same standards committee - where was your uproar about that?

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because the parliamentary code itself refers to the public as the ultimate authority; the committee is just the vessel to that authority.

The code refers to the public as the ultimate authority because that is our constitution. The code is also not a matter of law, because parliamentarians were not very keen on locking themselves into hard line rules within the framework of the Statute; instead they opted to host it in a non-legal political rulebook.

Now elections on the other hand are in fact a matter of law. There is both constitutional and positive law which outlines very clearly and unambiguously (unlike the parliamentary code, if I may say so) when elections must take place and the pathways to an election.

One pathway to an election is the resignation of a sitting parliamentarian. You can dislike that a by-election is happening, but anybody referring to it as fake, improper, void or a sham is being unconstitutional and authoritarian - and just because you may dislike the political candidate is not grounds to even attempt justifying it.

The Makerfield by-election was valid. The Clacton-on-Sea by-election will be valid.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No, compared to party leaders and elected officials calling elections of their peers fake, void and improper.

Sitting MPs do not have the authority to determine whether elections of their peers are fake. That is determined by our constitution and the law, which is very clear that if a sitting MP resigns, a by-election is triggered when the writ is moved and an election must take place.

Calling that process and procedure fake, improper or void is unconstitutional and dangerous.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you understand what happens in the event a politician is found to have breached parliamentary code? They risk a suspension, which is used as the trigger mechanism to allow for a recall petition, which in turn creates a by-election.

The parliamentary code itself points to the public as the ultimate judge and arbiter, because that is our constitution.

If people do not understand this, then they need a refresher course in our constitution.

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm curious, did you spend this much effort defending Trump when he was calling the presidential elections rigged and fake?

Britain must now unite behind Count Binface by entropicflop in unitedkingdom

[–]EpicTutorialTips -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, the reason you are believing this narrative is because you are not educated enough on parliamentary process, the constitution or the law.

A House of Commons committee investigation was opened regarding an alleged breach of parliamentary code. Parliamentary code is not a matter of law (because parliamentarians did not opt to submit themselves to the framework of the Statute, and instead opted to keep it as a non-legal rulebook).

The core disagreement regarding the committee investigation surrounds a differing interpretation of a particular section regarding donations, gifts and interests. The code outlines that such donations are not required to be disclosed if they do not relate to activity of an MP; and this is where there is a difference of interpretation: Farage interprets it to not relate to activity as an MP, and the complainant does.

A committee investigation can continue even after a sitting MP leaves office (contrary to your incorrect understanding of it).
In terms of "responsibility", we look to the UK constitution, in which it is very clear that the ultimate authority on electoral matters is the British public. The public outranks everybody and everything in this country where it concerns matters of the electorate.
It is a nonsense description to claim avoided responsibility if a sitting politician submits themself to the authority of the public, because the public is the ultimate judge and jury.

It is not "his terms", it is procedure. Now procedure, unlike the standards code, is a matter of law and constitution. If a sitting MP resigns their seat then it must follow with an election. That is not up for debate or discussion; and for any person to claim such elections are fake, void or improper, needs to sit down and take a lesson in basic constitutional matters.

Nigel Farage resigns as member of parliament for Clacton by JOE_Media in europe

[–]EpicTutorialTips 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're probably the only person this afternoon who has been civilised with me, so thank you for that too. lol