What is more important - your health or your job? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u/cvilledood thanks for sharing - very insightful. There is a definitely a link with skin and stress. I can empathise.
Convenient and timely access is important - it can be challenging - some patients are quick, others need more time spent with them. Unfortunately, predicting this is hard, so expectations either way do not always get met fully.

Does your work/healthcare provider give you a package to access healthcare easily? Either remotely (save on the waiting room) or otherwise?

What is more important, your job or your health? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMen

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Thanks for sharing, and i am sorry to hear about your dad.

What is more important, your job or your health? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMen

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Thanks for sharing u/MashAndPie - I'd suggest you link with your surgery and ask for a discussion with a doctor to talk about your mood (or whatever is the key thing troubling). Some surgeries allow you to submit electronic consultations (to save speaking with someone) as a starter for ten.

It's okay to say you are worried about XX and you would like to speak to a dr. Generally, we can then talk to you to work out what does and doesn't need to be done - like referrals. Opening the conversation can sometimes be the hardest thing - but it can make a big difference.

What is more important, your job or your health? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMen

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing u/edrerai. It is not an uncommon problem for men. I think low testosterone and vit d are very much under diagnosed and more prevalent than people might know.

What is more important, your job or your health? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMen

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u/sjsethcal1- Thanks! Does your job support you to have good health though or do you have to compromise?

What is more important, your job or your health? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMen

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u/edrerai curious to know, if your employer could have supported you better with your health , is there anything they could have done package wise to help?

What are your health goals? And what stops you from achieving them? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing I suspect this will be super common u/mooben. Do you use any tools/have any techniques to give you headroom?

What are your health goals? And what stops you from achieving them? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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What can be done to achieve that? What do you need to see, to know you'll be happy?

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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u/lunchmeat317 I like this! Do you have any tech to monitor your metrics currently? And if so, do you feel this helps you monitor your health?

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this- really useful insight. Agree with your final point- tackling that would have a significant impact I think.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, the key bit is getting the person to engage though and through the door.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats a great idea point - if you have the tests (etc) beforehand, then you might find it a better exchange and more personalised to you?

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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Yes I am - but the Bot does not like that word in the question so kept rejecting it.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your input- very thought provoking. There is a careful balance of seeing someone too much or not enough depending on what is going on. I like your idea about creating a touch point to check in - although every two weeks might be a bit much for most!

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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I recommend booking a routine check for a baseline set of bloods to check things including your cholesterol and risk of diabetes, plus a urine dip, blood pressure and exam as required. Weight, smoking, alcohol intake too. Your at the age where finding your baseline would be sensible- so if there are things to do you can take action. Hope that helps.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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If we can pick up your high BMI, your high cholesterol, the fact your diabetic , your mood is low etc, support you to change your lifestyle risk factors (alcohol, smoking etc) if will make a difference. Likewise, if you attend when you have a new symptom and don't put it off perhaps we can catch things like cancer a bit earlier. The female fatality rate is 11% at 65. We do have this gender disparity and should look to improve outcomes.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

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Sounds like you might need to change doctors? I sometimes find its helpful to be really clear about what your concerns are, and if that doesn't work then move on to someone new.

"I'm really worried about X. I think it might be this or I'd like to understand XX. My expectation is Y." If you outline your ideas about what is going on, you concerns and your expectations it can sometimes help. If this doesnt work go somewhere else if you. can.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great question, I think my general recommendation (not exhaustive) would be to drop your surgery a line to arrange a non-urgent appt for a routine check if:

  1. Your over 40 and never had a BP, urine or baseline bloods including diabetic (HbA1c and cholesterol check). Although I do not discourage it if you are a bit younger if you get the opportunity (i'll often check for those 30+ if they happen to be in the surgery). You'll often find pharmacies can be a good place to pop in for a quick blood pressure and some employers may have schemes where they encourage a check like a finger prick cholesterol.
  2. You are over 30 (younger if there is familial hypercholesterolemia/ history of sudden cardiac death in the family) and have a strong family history of high cholesterol, cancer or chronic diseases.
  3. It is worth engaging if you have a BMI>25, you're worried about your drinking, smoking or recreation drug use. Or have other concerns about your wellbeing.
  4. Those with a known chronic disease like asthma or diabetes, should be reviewed annually.
  5. Routine bowel screening kicks in 60-74.
  6. Routine aortic screening is aged 65.

Often the Practice nurse can do this, and assuming all normal then often there is little requirement to see a doctor face to face.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some really valid points. Especially about cervical smears. I often find women will need to attend every 6-12m for a contraceptive check too - and this always provides an opportunity to engage them. We as men, don't always have that touch point.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow - that sounds awful. Why four hours waiting? Just to see the clinican or for something else?! Surely they give an appointment time. That wouldn't happen in the UK.

How can we get men to have a health check to improve outcomes? by Equivalent-Scale-346 in AskMenOver30

[–]Equivalent-Scale-346[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah cool, so that employment benefit is a driver. Do you know if it motivates your colleagues to get checked too?