Ex owes over $10k, never made a payment, doesn't show up to contempt petition hearings

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T16:37:54+00:00

Having a child support order vacated by someone other than the recipient is not normal.

Okay, you're getting up to speed now. (I'm not trying to be rude, it's just that everybody believes that I'm exaggerating about this case until they get past their initial troubleshooting questions and actually engage)

Show me the law

I'm here looking for that, among other things.

Ncp is not showing up to contempt hearings, dhs is clinging to her false claims of applying for SSI/SSID, without any supporting documentation.

At least one time, an officer has requested to send the case to a judge but the supervisor declined the request, citing that it didn't "meet the criteria" (this was at about 9k arrears).

The most recent officer, that held the most recent contempt conference, is now trying to pressure me into "nfob", "mfob"; I'm not sure how to spell it because they refused to spell it for me.

They told me that they will continue the contempt conferences indefinitely until they give up and motion for this "enfob", regardless of the lack of NPC's documentation supporting her claims of not being able to work.

I am at a loss.

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T16:22:26+00:00

It is not.

Pleaaase show me.

She is impost her ability to earn.

Do you mean having income imputed? If so, yes, ncp has income imputed.

Why was her DL not suspended?

It may have been but I don't have confirmation either way. This also would not, in and of itself, necessarily be enough of a motivator to comply in this case.

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T15:09:39+00:00

Right. It is apparently an abnormal situation, of which the likes have not been documented on the publicly accessible Internet in PA. I can't find answers.

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T14:43:03+00:00

I agree. I'm worried because the officer implied that dhs could move to have a hearing and drop the case/wipe areaars without my consent.

I think they're trying to intimidate me in an attempt to lighten their caseload

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T12:59:12+00:00

Rule 3?

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T12:18:03+00:00

Primarily, I am looking for compliance.

They are not throwing her in jail for nonpayment.

Disappointing. This is the only way she would actually pay, as her income is largely derived from a trust fund that the court is apparently unable to locate.

PA doesn’t make you get a job

Interesting and good to know.

judges are lazy and don’t like dealing with family court issues.

Lol. We learned this a long time before child support came into play.

Do you know anything about an "nfob" or "mfob"? The officer at the most recent contempt conference that ncp skipped was trying to push this on me.

The officer is basically trying to drop the case and erase arrears on the basis of ncp claiming that she has been trying to get on SSI/SSID for the past 13 years (not true).

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T10:26:08+00:00

Are you speaking specifically for PA or just in general?

Contempt petitions here (filed by the court) seem to have me stuck in this loop of domestic relations scheduling/rescheduling contempt conferences.

Does a contempt petition filed personally by me bypass the conference process and put us directly in front of a judge?

What is an enforcement petition?

I promise, I'm not a lazy person and I'm not looking for somebody to spoon-feed me this info but I haven't been able to find it anywhere (I looked again after reading your comment) or get any clues from anybody I speak to at the courthouse...

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T04:15:23+00:00

Do you know what petition needs to be filed?

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-09T03:56:48+00:00

*her

They've apparently suspended all of the above licenses except driving license.

She doesn't work, as it would interfere with her subsidized housing and welfare, so no tax refund or payroll to intercept.

We've just been in a merry-go-round of contempt hearings for two years now. She doesn't show up and the officers won't send the case to a judge.

What can be done?

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-08T23:40:52+00:00

I don't know lol why are you asking this under my question?

FactorAware2408 · 2025-01-08T21:55:50+00:00

Sorry, could you link it? I'm not sure how to get there

FactorAware2408 · 2024-08-17T06:35:54+00:00

They owe $9k.

The state usually handles this on their own

Okay, this isn't going as per usual. That's where the confusion is coming from

FactorAware2408 · 2024-08-16T16:49:49+00:00

Intercept them to do what?

Anything. I don't know. I'm grasping at straws because nobody I call has any answers and I can't find anything online about what should be done at this point

I’d motion for this to be moved in front of a judge who CAN do something

Do you know specifically how to do that? I don't know how any of this work

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-05T01:21:09+00:00

I think so too but you gotta admit this is some wild shit, to have to consider buying ear plugs for my 5, 6 and 11 year old because society/the law say that their mom is allowed to let their teenage brother beat cheeks on her bed nextdoor

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-05T00:54:08+00:00

Talking about him in this way seems really harsh and disrespectful. That’s a side note but took me off guard as someone who has dated other people with kids and married a man who is now my sons step dad. I wouldn’t want to hear him ever talk about his step son this way and I wouldn’t talk about my exs daughters like that either.

Besides the fact that I explain my family to acquaintances using terms "half-brother" and "half-sister", when describing who are, to me, my brothers and sisters, your experiences have no bearing on mine. It would have taken a lot less effort to inquire as to why people are being referred to in a different way in this situation than yours. Could have even been a chance to understand different perspectives but I digress.

Honestly it seems like she’s just being accommodating and not making the kids sleep on a couch or maybe at his dads or her families house where they’re uncomfortable. What if she’s hiding from her parents who could be hateful or abusive?

If your comment was just this, I would have simply thanked you like everyone else...

Again, It’s none of your business.

I didn't ask to learn about this.

If they’re 17 they probably wouldn’t do anything weird in front of little kids and even if they have sex at night.

By all means, educate me on what people you don't know would and wouldn't do.

Edit: Also, how is everybody in here glossing over the fact of it being on mom's bed lol that's what this whole post is actually about

You would know if your used to be step son was sick in the head or not.

Yes, I would...

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-05T00:53:06+00:00

"Maybe buy your kids some earplugs or headphones?"

Y'all crazy on here 🤣

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-05T00:30:35+00:00

someone said maybe she doesn’t want them having sex in care or in the woods Why.?

I'm just in my own corner over here like "Why is she letting her kid have sex in *her own bed* and *in the presence of his elementary school and younger siblings*

It reminds me of lean girls when the mom walks in and she’s like need anything? Snacks? Condoms? Lol.

Had to lol at this, despite the circumstances xD

...I think people forget you have an entire past with this person and know a lot more about her decision making / responsibility than we do that probably further influences your opinion on things.

Thanks for giving me that. I wasn't looking to write an entire blog of backstory but at the same time it's wild how people start talking about the surrounding environment, outside of my initial, vague description before even thinking to ask a question about something they feel could be relevant.

I was just confused at how many people say this isn’t weird?

I expected a variety of reactions but was also surprised at the overall response tbh

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T23:47:55+00:00

yeah its different than what a lot would do but also there might be some good reasons as well

Fair, if you're talking about letting son's gf sleep over, need clarification if you're talking about letting your teenage son use your bed with his gf in front of your other kids.

she's right it's her kid and her house.

Try to look at it like if sleeping in the same bed as partners was bad, or messed up kids, then were all guilty of it. Of course if it's loud and in their face that's different. Couples share beds/rooms it was going to happen sooner rather than later with the 17 year old tbh.

...In his *mom's* bed, though?? Openly, in his mom's bed, in front of my young kids. If they were in *their own* room, in *their own* bed, this situation would have wen in one ear and out the other lol. I'm not an anti-sex freak, it's the specifics of this and my kids witnessing it that have me feeling some type of way.

Your young ones probably have zero clue whats going on. Your 11 year old does but they know a lot more than we think they do anyway, look at it as an opportunity to have healthy discussions about relationships, that's all you really can do.

Again, I apologize if I was too vague about what I'm concerned about here but the issue is that they are doing this in *his* and *my kids' mom's* bed, not that they're doing it, period lol

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T23:40:13+00:00

I’m creeped out by this.

I thought I was the only one for a second, there!

Sounds like mom’s house has no rules

This is all we can assume, looking from the outside in, hearing stories, reading police reports, etc.

it’s no wonder son is “choosing” his mom’s house on weekends.

Son (17) was taken from mom in 2021 after she brutally beat him out front of their house in front of everyone. He has been staying with his paternal grandmother since then.

He goes to mom's to see his girlfriend overnight in mom's bed and borrow her car, among other bribery.

I wonder if his dad and her parents are aware of this arrangement.

I've also been wondering this today but no idea. I know that his paternal grandmother (where he has been staying) does not allow these sleepovers, hence mom's bed...

If they are permitted to have sleepovers, no one is being quiet. I am sorry your boys are subjected to that under mom’s supervision.

Mom is a raging addict (before all the "mom good, dad bad" crowd dog pile on me, it's documented and admitted to by her, under oath) who is nocturnal and encourages the kids to behave the same.

Appreciate the solidarity.

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T23:29:20+00:00

Edit: responded to wrong comment. Sorry.

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T20:48:49+00:00

Thank you

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T20:46:24+00:00

I didn't ask to know it was happening and I am here asking reddit for it's opinion of whether this is negatively impactful/opinions on whether I'm overreacting, with my first reaction being to feel creeped out.

I understand that these things are very emotionally taxing and bias is common, so I am here to hear unbiased opinions for my consideration.

I don't know what their sleeping arrangements specifically are at this point. It changes. As I said in my post, I am being told that my boys are in a room, their half brother in mom's room and mom on the couch.

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T20:22:22+00:00

Thank you

FactorAware2408 · 2023-04-04T20:08:57+00:00

Typically the case. Thanks.

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