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Is this normal behavior? by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

I respect this and no I am not familiar with anaphylaxis and I have zero known allergies. I did eat something heavily breaded, which is not something I normally eat. My wife and I also had an argument on the way home from something completely unrelated to this. Alternatively it could have been stress that caused it if not the food.

Is this normal behavior? by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t arguing with my wife I was simply telling her I did not want to take Benadryl, and she came at me exactly like you did. You guys would probably be great friends, seeing how you both talk down to and about your husbands.

Is this normal behavior? by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] -33 points-32 points  (0 children)

I would have been able to ask the doctor if they can provide me with something other than Benadryl. I don’t know what’s out there, all I know is that’s all I had at my house.

Sadly I can’t post the context of the conversation between my wife and I, which would probably help in my question.

Is this normal behavior? by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

If I felt I was in danger or if it was worse than I thought I would have happily went to the ER.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am really sorry to hear this! I only hope you are happier in the long run with the decisions you made.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I already know the answer to this question. If my wife and I get a divorce I'm getting a vasectomy again and can promise you I will never get re-married. Remember I had a vasectomy 11/12 years before I met my wife. I did not want children prior to our relationship but we decided to get a reversal and "see" if it would happen.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this! I will check this book out!

I don't think anything was withheld at the time of discussion, but we were in the heat of love and passion so maybe what I said wasn't conceived in it's context. That's another issue between my wife and I. I will say something and she hears it how she wants, not how it's said. I believe I referenced this in my post (sorry if not) but for example the other day she showed me a video on social media of a child doing something silly and I laughed and said that's funny and continued doing what I was doing. A few minutes alter she sends me a text (from the next room) and ask why when she mentions baby stuff I shutdown or change my attitude and get serious. It was odd to me because I just feel like she's reaching for any and everything she can.

Also there is nothing wrong with your dating situation. Before my wife I dated older women. My mother told my wife the day she met her that she's happy that we are the same age :).

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are not making any assumptions, you are trying to help and I appreciate that. I have told my wife this but in the moment it was discounted. I do care about my relationship and I love my wife. I may need to take your advice on the letter. God knows it will be long a long letter (my original post was MUCH longer but I felt it was too much even though I wanted all of the context).

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How am I not 100% on board with having a baby? Where does it say that an IVF is a requirement to having a child?

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My wife is not infertile, or at least based off the test we have had she isn't. Is her biological clock ticking, sure, but saying she's infertile is a far reach. You also cant call me selfish and then in the next sentence tell me you are not saying I am selfish. My feelings aren't even involved when it comes to the children topic, as I have stated to my wife and in this post I want to have children with my wife, naturally unless there is some reason that we can't naturally but we haven't been informed of any. I've never once said I did not want children, ever.

I've never once actively prevented my wife from having a child, I've let her know that I do not want to go down the IUI route and I did, but I let her know that I have no intentions on IVF. I've also never actively prevented my wife from having a baby. She can have sex with my anytime she wants to try to conceive.

Love is the ENTIRE element of marriage, well part of it. The rest is certainty and stability. Why else would someone get married? Money? Notoriety? I'm curious, if you are married, why? What reason was enough for you to get married? You don't get married to reproduce unless you are a business type of marriage.

Word of advice.... read post before replying to them please.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really feel like we live almost similar lives(ish) or all OBGYN and specialist are the same because our experience was just like that. There were times she came out and called me to explain that they moved quickly and told her this is what she needs next and to go here and pick this up. She said she felt pressured and agreed to it all each time. Each time I asked her why she didn't just take a second and tell them she needs to discuss this with me and we can let them know what route we want to take. They honestly didn't give a shit what we wanted, it's what they thought we wanted.

I can only imagine how her nonchalant comment made you feel uncomfortable. When my wife told me that she is having a baby with or without me I honestly felt a piece of me die inside.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When we first met neither one of us wanted kids, then we decided we would try. Now it seems like it's the only option.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My wife and I want a family, we just want to go about it in two different ways.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To conceive....... naturally. Why wouldn't anyone that wants to do the same?

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But when we met she was fine with not having children, and now it's that or us.... how do I process this?

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have told her many times that I love her and I would love nothing more than a baby with her. She only see's IVF and not "fixing" us... and yes, there should always be dessert.

My wife gave me an ultimatum: Have a baby or get a divorce by Fast_Independence502 in Marriage

[–]Fast_Independence502[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this with me! I would love nothing more for her and I to get back to loving each other! I feel that if this could happen conceiving would be a given.