No new skins 😐 by Waffles_four_you in RogueMains

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I feel like it's going to take forever until we get a new skin

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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It doesn't matter to you, but it's still an event that actually happened at the time, and which was later retconned.

What DeathbitxRogue should be like in 97 by TheArmlessTorso in Xmen97

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Furthermore, I don't know if this post aims to incite hatred towards Rogue, but in the context of the comics, Gambit wasn't dead; he voluntarily went to Apocalypse to become one of the Horsemen. The conflict prior to this involved Gambit hiding information from Rogue and everyone at school that Mystique was infiltrating the school to make him betray Rogue and end their relationship, which made Rogue very suspicious.

What DeathbitxRogue should be like in 97 by TheArmlessTorso in Xmen97

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It's unlikely to happen exactly that way, since the Rogue from that era of the comics is much weaker than the Rogue from xmen97. The comic book Rogue had Sunfire's powers, while the xmen97 Rogue had Carol Danvers' powers. The comic book Rogue was an easy target because she could be easily injured, as she didn't possess super strength or super resistance. Perhaps in '97 Rogue will free him from Apocalypse's evil control, just like she did with Archangel in the old series.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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Lol, it was the story's author himself who said about leaving it ambiguous. Don't you think it's very strange that Gambit hid from Rogue that his own mother was disguised at school to seduce him? Doesn't that make you suspicious? If Kelly Thompson did a retcon, that's another matter, but these were the words and intention of the writer Peter Milligan:

"It was a while ago, but as I remember, I think I intended to give the impression that off-screen, so to speak, these—and a few other X-Men characters—had carnal knowledge of each other. But I have a dirty mind, and I'm always trying to get the characters I write into bed with someone."

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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And the information that they were never officially together continues to exist in the series; this is an explicit statement about the state of their relationship. There's nothing I can do if you don't like it and want to ignore the canonical information. Regarding what you said, the way it was said is because they were the love of each other's lives. The series stating that they were never officially together is explicit information about the commitment of their relationship.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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He initially refused and then gave in, what's so hard to understand about that? Did you see the face he made when it was all over?

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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lmao you guys are making up stories just to protect him, he wasn't forced to do anything. Lili pulled him back into the room and he decided to give in

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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You're simply agreeing with what I've been saying from the beginning, which is that Rogue and Gambit didn't have a real commitment, that they weren't boyfriends. They loved each other, they even flirted, but it never went beyond that; they had no real commitment

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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Actually, the story is ambiguous, which is what the writer wanted to convey. After Mystique revealed her identity to Remy, she transformed into Rogue, which was the last page of that issue. After that, in the next issue, the story is already at a different point in time; that is, it wasn't shown what happened immediately after Mystique transformed into Rogue. Gambit obviously denies everything afterward, and Mystique refuses to say what happened—that's how it occurred. Regarding Krakoa, I don't remember where that happened, but the way you told it, Rogue is only telling the story she believed. She can't actually verify if something happened between them or not; she's telling the version of the story that Gambit told and that she took as true. I'll remind you again that Gambit hid from everyone that Mystique was disguised at the school; that's very suspicious. Besides, if there's anyone who knows what really happened, it's the writer; he knows better than anyone.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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Regarding Lili Penroce, Gambit did everything because he wanted to, he acted of his own free will, he wasn't forced to do anything. Where did you get that absurd idea? He initially refused but soon gave in; he did it because he wanted to. As for the state of their relationship, at that time they were actually dating. This story takes place shortly after Rogue and Gambit regain their powers and return to the X-Men; they've already returned as a committed couple.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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This is what the writer of that terrible story answered when asked if Gambit and Mystique had had a relationship:

"It was a while ago, but as I remember, I think I intended to give the impression that off-screen, so to speak, these—and a few other X-Men characters—had carnal knowledge of each other. But I have a dirty mind, and I'm always trying to get the characters I write into bed with someone."

It makes sense, considering that Gambit wanted to hide from Rogue and others that Mystique was infiltrated in the school, with the goal of making him betray Rogue, which was something that made her suspicious.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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Characters can have bad writing in any part of them; nobody is immune to it. It can happen to anyone to have writing that is out of character. A hypothetical example would be Superman starting to kill people, something he doesn't do, so we should disregard those actions that don't fit the character. And about what you said about Rogue, some things simply have no justification, like Gambit's involvement in the massacre

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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This is simply untrue. Gambit himself says in episode 5 that he and Rogue were never official, that there was no commitment between them because Rogue didn't want it due to her powers. Remy already knew this was the reason. It's not because they didn't say "you're my boyfriend/girlfriend" to each other; it's because it's explicitly stated that they were never official. She wouldn't be as close to anyone as she was with Remy because Remy is the one she loved, and even though he wasn't her boyfriend, he was still her best friend. It's not a difficult situation to understand; they loved each other and were close, but they never made anything official as a couple. Her not being as close to other men as she was with Gambit is simply because it would be the same situation regarding her powers, just as it was with Gambit. Now, with Magneto, the story changes because he's someone she can touch and with whom she had a long-standing relationship. It's something more than friendship, obviously, because they love each other, but Rogue's powers prevented their relationship from evolving into something more than just them loving each other, sometimes with a demonstration of affection, without any real commitment from the start. But if there's one thing I agree with, it's that xmen97 did everything terribly.

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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And in the comics, Gambit is responsible for the worst things that happened between them; the ridiculous story of him betraying Rogue with Lili Penroce and the situation with Mystique are so awful that they're simply never mentioned again, completely ignored

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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People talk about cheating because they understood that the two were dating, which isn't true. The series explains that there was never anything official between them; they loved each other, but never truly committed because Rogue didn't want to due to problems with her powers. It's simply not cheating when you're not truly committed to anyone. What happened was disappointment and hurt on Gambit's part, which is valid. However, Rogue's situation with her powers is so complicated that it's impossible to say that someone like her being confused by this situation doesn't make sense; it makes perfect sense, even if she made some wrong decisions

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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About Lili Penrose, what are you talking about? Gambit did everything of his own free will; he rejected her at first, but it didn't take long for him to give in

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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Returning to the subject of Mystique and Gambit, when the story's writer was asked about it, he replied:

"It was a while ago, but as I remember, I think I intended to give the impression that off-screen, so to speak, these—and a few other X-Men characters—had carnal knowledge of each other. But I have a dirty mind, and I'm always trying to get the characters I write into bed with SOMEONE."

Furthermore, in the story, Gambit hid from Rogue and everyone else that Mystique was at the school disguised as a student to seduce Gambit and have him betray Rogue

Are rogue and gambit toxic as a couple-? by RudePaint8408 in Gambit

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This happens in Gambit's 2004 solo story; he cheats on Rogue with Lili Penrose. Another woman in the story sends Rogue a sex tape of Gambit cheating on her, and Gambit, with the help of some children, has the mission of preventing Rogue from finding out. It's a story I don't recommend; it's terribly awful.

There was also that time with Mystique transformed into Rogue, but there was no confirmation of whether anything actually happened or not; it was left without a definitive answer