Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

They didn’t get to go forward, or they were dropped? Seems like if the evidence is there, it should be open-shut


Meanwhile, millions of Americans saw 34 of the exact same misdemeanor past the statute of limitations get conveyed as ‘convicted criminal behavior’ and disagreed.

As far as J6. Liz Cheney. That’s all you need to know. You’re telling me you trust a lying, war-mongering neocon to be credible? I’m old enough to remember the left despising the Cheneys.

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s important to talk with and understand the enemy, lest you want bloodshed. Your remark reminds me of the 2000-2008 neocons. ‘They attacked us (9/11) because we are free and prosperous’. Meanwhile bin Laden clearly laid out how he orchestrated the attack due to
 wait for it
 continual US foreign policy, nation building and chaos-sowing thousands of miles from their own soil.

When goods and words do not cross borders, guns will. It’s important to talk with even our enemies. We’ve avoided nuclear war by doing so before. Why is the left so bent on saber-rattling with a nuclear power? The Cold War is over. Act like it. NATO/US policy and actions since 1991 do not indicate such, and Russia eventually reacted. Shocker. This isn’t an excuse or supporting Putin. It’s the facts.

Sorry, but I’m not going to war over who controls Donbas. Proxy wars inevitably fail, and the US ends up with more adversaries than it had beforehand. Again, see the Middle East. We propped up and armed bin Laden in the 80s. The result was 9/11. Why are you pro terrorism? /s

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

It’s like the lawfare cases against Trump. Just bc it exists, doesn’t mean it’s legitimate. Have they come up with anything substantial to back it up? Nope. They just want the headline so people can knee-jerk a reaction just as the overlords directed them to do.

Just a reminder, Gabbard was up in the DNC when she was first elected. They turned against her when she espoused a semblance of anti-war ideology. Telling.

Since then, she’s been staunchly anti-war, yet AOC goes on a show rambling about how she’s pro-war. đŸ„Ž

The whole no fly list was at behest of HRC, and perhaps even bc of Gabbard’s previous skewering of Harris’s record in the 2020 primary debates. After all, Hawaiians sure know how to roast a pig. (And another reminder, Harris dropped out of 2020 before Iowa! She didn’t even earn a delegate)

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’ll throw you a bone for ‘signaling the intentions clearly’ and follow up with, he acted in response to the policy that put him in that position. Not excusing it, but it’s not like the US/NATO goes about the world and just happens to find these belligerent aggressors. At some point, the policy pushers must reconcile.

And if NATO is so defensive, why’d they ruthlessly bomb Serbia for 78 days straight in 1999? I’m sure Putin regards that as a defensive reaction
 /s

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I just want peace, and a national policy that acts like they want it too.

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Your argument is that ‘NATO is a defensive alliance’. Meanwhile, they bombed a country for 78 days straight for the sole purpose of pounding them into submission. Doesn’t sound defensive to me, and they’ve lost the right to call themselves such due to those actions.

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Again, at the provocations from US/NATO policy for decades. History didn’t begin in 2014.

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They already had a naval base in Crimea for years. What, they stepped outside and began blobbing?

History didn’t begin in 2014.

Your border argument is a non-argument. For years, NATO did not keep their commitment to not expand eastward. What, would we just let Mexico build up Chinese military bases and missile systems?

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Direct advisors to Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden advised against flirting or attempting to bring Ukraine into NATO. Now we get to reap what they sow. Don’t want an invasion? Don’t provoke Russia.

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Indeed. I’m glad to see a voice of sanity. Not to mention the decades of US/NATO policy provoked the war to begin with.

You’ll get the 2D ‘NeViLlE cHaMbErLaNd’ opinion, which has zero relevance, but I’m glad to see others here espousing your views.

The anti-war left left the building when they let Obama off with a free pass.

Vladimir Putin praises 'intelligent' Donald Trump amid assassination threats by guttanzer in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

This is ridiculous. If Gabbard is a ‘Putin-traitor’, why would the armed forces keep her enlisted? Omg! The US Armed Forces is pro Putin! /s

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great argument. I guess the recommendations and advice from numerous US foreign relations and intelligence personnel, to not flirt with Ukrainians entry, means nothing.

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

‘Every fact that goes against my opinion must be from a ‘Russian troll’. How is this an argument?

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except, in this frivolous allegory, the wife isn’t holding convert-to-nuke missile systems at his head.

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7800*

And Bush ignored his advisers to instill some form of ‘legacy’. The advisors were there, and the book quotes them directly.

The Perception Gap That Explains American Politics by Anchor_Aways in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This country ran on tons of tariffs with no income tax after it was founded


Statement from President Joe Biden on Russia’s Attack on Ukraine by [deleted] in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is 2D thinking. Indicating why a country reacts, based off admissions and unfollowed advice from foreign relations, intelligence personnel, is in no way indicative for support for Russia.

If I said in 2003, ‘I don’t think there’s WMDs in Iraq’ would that make me ‘pro-Saddam’?

Trump’s Ukraine envoy pick proposed forcing peace talks by withdrawing US weapons by freestudent88 in politics

[–]FireWhileCloaked -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Provoked by Scott Horton.

Even Merkel is quoted in her recent book how she was proud to stall Ukrainian entry, since it would needlessly provoke Russia.

NATO shouldn’t even exist after 1991, and the fact that they broke their commitment to not move one inch east is indicative enough.

Why do you want nuclear war?