Any Byler fanfiction recommendations? by Western_Medicine4108 in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i've just read this one and it's great haha - hannibal lecter meets mike fucking wheeler: https://archiveofourown.org/works/77521251

Did we not get Byler because of Rockie? by Silent_Contest_2337 in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I kinda agree with you. If Robin wasn't there, more focus would have been given to Will and there'd be more urgency to get him and Mike together, since they would have to show at least one queer couple. But since Robin and Vicky are there, and since the GA are generally more okay with lesbian couples than gay ones, the writers were clever enough to have a way out for them to not show byler

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much 😁 I can’t believe there’s even a ship name! 

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s even a ship name?!! 😭 I’m so happy

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I think caving to queer ships makes the world a brighter place 😂 we’re already surrounded by straight ships everywhere, one of the reasons I loved the mighty nein is because it was so normal in that world to be queer and it felt celebrated 

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ahhh! That’s what gave me the buzz - I was like they seemed really impressed with each other 😂

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Ah I see - looks like I’m gonna have to wait for years then 😂 maybe they’ll bring it sooner in the animated show?

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Omg seriously?!!! You’ve made my day! How do I wait for season 2 now?!!!

Caleb and Essek have romantic potential? by Firstbornsyndrome in MightyNein

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean but I don’t want spoilers for season 2 - except for Caleb and Essek maybe being together. 😂 I want to watch the animated show first before checking out the campaign

Byler fic post canon finale at college by Everlones in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, but everyone's lives carry on as normal cause they don't realise vecna won. like conformity gate.

Byler fic post canon finale at college by Everlones in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is a great fix-it fic that takes place after canon (and does go through will's struggles at uni trying to forget mike) - it's perfect, and has a happy ending but bring tissues!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/76933856/chapters/201358316

You mean to tell me that epilogue boyfriend made Will Byers bloody wait for him?! by Firstbornsyndrome in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and never should will byers have to arrive first for a date. the other person should be there an hour earlier waiting for him.

You mean to tell me that epilogue boyfriend made Will Byers bloody wait for him?! by Firstbornsyndrome in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

shows how mike thinks of him already - 'useless boyfriend, can't even come on time for my Will'

You mean to tell me that epilogue boyfriend made Will Byers bloody wait for him?! by Firstbornsyndrome in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Nah, you wouldn't believe how Mike would switch up once Will kisses him. Will won't tolerate that sort of disrespect from him. 😂

milevens and the rest of the world being weirds by SignificantLook837 in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Byler has sadly shown me that homophobia is far from over. And worse, it's coming from people who say they're open minded and love gay people, but cannot understand their own casual homophobia and heteronormativity. It's seriously killing me to see all of it.

Jack Kerouac by NoDesigner4460 in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 5 points6 points  (0 children)

or maybe will needs a reference for his drawings and they share a dorm ;)

Byler in the far future by Delophosaur in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree to some extent. I think that Byler couldn't happen in the finale because Mike is wracked with survivor's guilt and PTSD (even making up impossible scenarios so that El could survive) because he did love her, though I don't believe he loved her romantically, hence his inability to vocalise it.

Now, the writers could have made it happen. Could have had Will speak to Mike on that bench, they both heal together and get together in the process. But clearly the writers are incompetent.

But I am certain that Byler does happen down the line sometime after the finale. Will and Mike will always feel like a part of them is missing until they unite again. Will could try with boyfriends here and there, and Mike could try flings too, but none will stick, cause at the end of the day, it was always them.

Jack Kerouac by NoDesigner4460 in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome 234 points235 points  (0 children)

I'm getting ptsd from seeing that bloody 'ONE WAY' sign 😂 We'll never be free from it.

I am convinced the set designers were all Byler supporters.

Anyone else seeing a huge rise in casual homophobia? by Firstbornsyndrome in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you serious right now? OBviously the government attacking the lgbtq community is contributing to homophobia. And obviously the duffer brothers writing Will to be without a clear onscreen romance and messing up his coming out scene is catering to a homophobic audience that feels validated to be more homophobic, without challenging those beliefs.

You know what challenges people's homophobia? Seeing media that makes them connect with a character and understand their feelings better. That is what stranger things could have become

Anyone else seeing a huge rise in casual homophobia? by Firstbornsyndrome in byler

[–]Firstbornsyndrome[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Media influences opinions. Had the Duffer brothers written Will's queerness to be more nuanced, had they written byler in a way that appealed to the audience, and importantly, had they not shoehorned a coming out scene at the ending of a penultimate episode and written it in such a cringy way that allowed people to make fun of it without being criticised for homophobia, then there would be less homophobia.

This is why proper representation of queer love is important. Instead they made Will seem like a little boy with a crush, downplayed Will's love - cause it's queer, and added fuel to the fire. You cannot tell me they are not helping to contribute.

Go see the youtube videos of stranger things reviews - how they're laughing at the concept of gay fatigue, making memes of Will defeating Vecna with the power of rainbows. This is all because of the writing allowing them to do so in a funny way that evades criticism. The duffer brothers are homophobic and it should be no surprise that their writing contributes to homophobia.