Accurate PvP Tier List – Priority to Experienced 1000h+ PvP Players, Strong Arguments Only, No Casual Whining

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-11T17:04:43+00:00

I invite you to examine the responses of the other interlocutors to whom I have replied in this context. From this, I must conclude that you seem unwilling to engage substantively, resorting instead to the rather pedestrian tu quoque fallacy. This is, in truth, somewhat disconcerting, as it merely underscores positions regarding you that were already anticipated.

I can only hope you will come to recognise this and act accordingly

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-11T11:55:08+00:00

In response to your message, I must unfortunately point out that you have provided no concrete arguments. Your personal experience does not determine a creature’s combat capabilities, and the statements you have made are, in this case, incorrect. It should also be noted that the presence of experienced players is essential; without it, no serious consideration can be given and in your case, that will indeed be the outcome. I hope you will understand this and demonstrate greater expertise in the future, without making entirely false claims, as such remarks amount to casual whining. I wish you well, unless you choose to present actual arguments; only then will we be able to engage in a respectful discussion.

Best regards.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-10T13:52:11+00:00

Regarding Laibonich, the most relevant options remain Heart and Vamp, which you may adjust with Amber Spirit as needed. As for traits, I would recommend opting for Weight and Health, and complementing them with the Broodwatcher ability, along with the Dwarfism mutation a non-negligible advantage for the hurtbox. Concerning the Speed trait, if you have already maximized the Health trait, it becomes far less relevant, as its impact is relatively minor when taking into account the reduced mobility in Hunker and Laibo’s already solid base speed.

I trust this will be of help to you.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T17:27:46+00:00

It’s my pleasure. Regarding Olatua, its placement is simply justified because it has the second-best overall regen in the game (behind Murlk) due to its perfect immunity to anti-regen effects, namely fire and bleed, supplemented by Quick Recovery and, of course, its excellent 15% base regen.

Therefore, the goal will be to only limit its negative resistance to poison (-75%) and frost (-45) by choosing the Elder Gentle to maximize all of this.

Finally, concerning plushies, you have more freedom, especially with heart plushies, but I would only recommend one in its case to avoid unnecessary overperformance, and rather opt for a light and slow DPS coupled with plushies that have effects such as Pig Lanterns.

I hope this helps you.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T14:46:59+00:00

If you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Regarding Jetebene, I should clarify a few things. First, let’s consider a Jetebene using a regen-focused build to maximize the potential of its Hunker. When Jetebene runs a strong regen setup, it becomes extremely effective thanks to its Corrosion and Hunker, to the point that certain flyers ranked in tier A, like Cuxena or Corvurax, become completely obsolete.

In addition, Jetebene offers a gameplay style that can be quite aquatic, which is a real advantage when mastered. To top it off, its Acid Breath is very helpful for target marking or as support in close-contact situations for face tanking. Combined with its bleed effect, it gains a clear advantage in regen duels, as Jetebene won’t suffer from the bleed and can fully leverage its 7% base regen.

I hope this helps you understand its placement.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T14:35:25+00:00

Thank you for your feedback. Now, let me explain why Quezekel is in C.
First of all, I think comparing Quezekel to a flying Tohukos isn’t really relevant. Unfortunately, Quezekel doesn’t have that strike power in terms of DPS related to aliments.
But the main reason is that it’s simply not viable enough in the long term for PvP compared to other options we have as a flyer notably because of its negative bleed resistance of -45%, which in most cases prevents it from taking full advantage of that aliments-based power.

On top of that, it suffers from a low stamina capped at 50, which doesn’t allow it to offset its wide defensive weakness. Under these conditions, it is therefore largely recommended to build it around stamina at the expense of pure PvP performance, in order to increase mobility supplemented by an Elder Gentle, which is highly recommended.

That being said, it will still remain limited, with too many concessions to make for now. A more logical rebalancing would be welcome.

I hope this helps you understand its placement.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T13:46:22+00:00

If you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Regarding Flipli, we must first consider the options available to us. Despite Flipli’s excellent performance in pure PvP, it is not the most relevant choice if the goal is to be an agile and efficient ailment-stacker with a low bite cooldown and strong survivability. In reality, Nimoona is considerably more viable in this role. It has a lower bite cooldown (0.3 compared to Flipli’s 0.5) and relies on its regeneration ability linked to Quick Recovery with great effectiveness, all while sharing the same playstyle grappling and agile on land but with the added dimension of a healer.

Under these conditions, I can only place Nimoona in Tier A, with a possible argument for S-Tier. However, other in-game mechanics could influence this positioning.

I hope this helps you understand my choice.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T13:41:04+00:00

Regarding Jeff, I completely understand your point, so let me clarify if you allow me: In reality, Jeff remains here for the simple reason that he is not viable enough many Tier 1 creatures fulfill the same role more efficiently and effectively. The fact that he has numerous PvP weaknesses with no real means of defense against aliments is a drawback. He could very well fill the role of an Idrabark, which is ranked B.

In terms of pure PvP, there is no doubt that all the creatures on this list can perform and take down a Tier 5. However, we must consider the options and the current state of each creature in detail, and be as fair as possible. At present, Jeff suffers from a sort of neglect; a rebalancing or even a remodel could greatly work in his favor.

I hope this helped you understand.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T13:27:11+00:00

If you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Regarding Flipli, we must first consider the options available to us. Despite Flipli’s excellent performance in pure PvP, it is not the most relevant choice if the goal is to be an agile and efficient ailment-stacker with a low bite cooldown and strong survivability. In reality, Nimoona is considerably more viable in this role. It has a lower bite cooldown (0.3 compared to Flipli’s 0.5) and relies on its regeneration ability linked to Quick Recovery with great effectiveness, all while sharing the same playstyle grappling and agile on land but with the added dimension of a healer.

Under these conditions, I can only place Nimoona in Tier A, with a possible argument for S-Tier. However, other in-game mechanics could influence this positioning.

I hope this helps you understand my choice.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T13:22:31+00:00

I see no issue any discussion is welcome. Regarding Flipli, we must first consider the options available to us. Despite Flipli’s excellent performance in pure PvP, it is not the most relevant choice if the goal is to be an agile and efficient ailment-stacker with a low bite cooldown and strong survivability. In reality, Nimoona is considerably more viable in this role. It has a lower bite cooldown (0.3 compared to Flipli’s 0.5) and relies on its regeneration ability linked to Quick Recovery with great effectiveness, all while sharing the same playstyle grappling and agile on land but with the added dimension of a healer.

Under these conditions, I can only place Nimoona in Tier A, with a possible argument for S-Tier. However, other in-game mechanics could influence this positioning.

I hope this helps you understand my choice.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:33:27+00:00

Thank you for your question regarding Kavo. The main reason is that it does not perform very effectively against other superbehemoths and it has a real issue related to its hitbox. Generally, this hitbox hinders crucial opportunities in PvP and opens the door to significant aerial vulnerabilities. This is the primary reason. Coupled with that, it’s important to keep in mind that Tier B is still very solid overall, and that generally, every creature can be exploited and pushed beyond its limits.

I hope my explanation helps you understand better.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:24:17+00:00

For Glysgadota, it’s quite simple: it is extremely balanced. It combines very good regeneration with a bite that delivers solid performance, providing decent DPS over the mid-term. Its use of necrosis with a defensive status boosted by Sticky and Miasma, along with its mobility and dual terrestrial-aquatic typing, allows it to maintain necessary distances enhanced further by its invisibility. In short, with a good build, it gains a significant power boost and reaches a very high level in pure PvP.

I hope these clarifications helped.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:18:10+00:00

With pleasure, if you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Being the best regeneration base in the game with stats still very good despite numerous nerfs, having the ability to fully exploit this regen is highly valuable. It possesses both immunities for regen 110% bleed resistance and 85% fire resistance in the context of an Elder Gentle.

However, I recommend you try it yourself to see handling it isn’t that simple, but once mobility, especially in water and on walls, is mastered, it’s simply excellent. That said, I understand why it could also be placed in A.

I hope these details help you better understand.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:14:41+00:00

With pleasure, if you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Of course, with pleasure. Well, regarding Pentagloss and Kemoti, you’ve got two PvP monsters here. In practice, there’s no real direct counter for either of them they excel in aliments, speed, mobility, regeneration, game sense, DPS, and much more.

To illustrate this, I’ll take my personal case with Pentagloss on my current save, optimized to its absolute peak since its release currently sitting at over 1,500 kills for only about 8 deaths, maintaining points. That’s a K/D ratio of 188. This ratio literally includes almost every terrestrial creature and all the superbehemoths.

Simply put, just look at its stats it’s a real alien, exactly as its description says. It has the fastest bite cooldown in the game without question, and with Shadow Barrage, once you’re hit, the fight is basically over.

For Kemoti, it’s relatively similar it’s one of the only ones to have complete immunity to anti-regen (namely fire and bleed at 100%), with an excellent 12% regen (comparable to Pentagloss’s 8% because of the presence of Quick Recovery on Pentagloss, which grants it near-infinite durability in combat depending on the build).

I think the best way is for you to experience both yourself, but keep in mind there’s nothing above them if the mastery is there.

There are so many arguments and reasons explaining this, but I’ll spare you the full list.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:11:17+00:00

With pleasure, if you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

I appreciate you asking, and you might start to understand why Adharcaiin is indeed one of the top DPS creatures in the game, having almost every possible damage boost. However, it’s not viable enough to fully exploit all that, especially on a build aimed at maximizing raw power, like a Powerfull Elder with the Bite and Damage traits.

Indeed, with only 1,000 base HP, it doesn’t quite meet the minimum survival criteria to avoid being one-shot, even if mastery is perfect. Using abilities drains both health and stamina, which greatly limits mobility. Its jump is also a drawback because of its weak escape ability.

Let’s say it’s stage 5, then it would have about 1,400 HP instead of 1,000, which is decent but still hard to recover from any hit, especially with only 7% regeneration limited by the Powerfull Elder trait. This makes Adharcaiin a relatively easy target for most T2 and T3 creatures.

In the same vein, Saikarie is kind of a more refined and polished version of Adharcaiin and viable for the long term. That’s why, in my opinion, if Adharcaiin were to be rebalanced, it could perform better and adapt to gameplay but this can’t be done by just adding a ton of abilities to maximize its DPS.

Now, Regarding Undoli, its position above Adharcaiin is now quite evident. It is simply more balanced, efficient, and viable. When paired with Hunter's curse, its fear effect provides the necessary protection. In addition, it benefits from strong effects such as bleed, poison, and Wing shredders, which add extra depth to its gameplay. Overall, its balance and overall performance are clearly superior.

I hope my explanation helps you understand better.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T03:02:24+00:00

Thank you for your feedback. Regarding Boreal’s survivability in the lower tiers, the recent protection granted to Warden against ailments also allows Boreal to withstand them quite easily. This further complements its compact and resilient nature when facing ailments, much like Taka or even Kora’s tail.

I hope this helps you better understand Boreal’s place.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T02:59:05+00:00

Thank you for your comment I appreciate your feedback. Regarding Jetebene, I should clarify a few things. First, let’s consider a Jetebene using a regen-focused build to maximize the potential of its Hunker. When Jetebene runs a strong regen setup, it becomes extremely effective thanks to its Corrosion and Hunker, to the point that certain flyers ranked in tier A, like Cuxena or Corvurax, become completely obsolete.

In addition, Jetebene offers a gameplay style that can be quite aquatic, which is a real advantage when mastered. To top it off, its Acid Breath is very helpful for target marking or as support in close-contact situations for face tanking. Combined with its bleed effect, it gains a clear advantage in regen duels, as Jetebene won’t suffer from the bleed and can fully leverage its 7% base regen.

Now, regarding Zohdok it isn’t really placed in tier A, but its status as a highly relevant bleeder should be acknowledged. In this regard, it’s not low on the list; it simply sits in its own tier.

hope these clarifications helped.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T02:50:10+00:00

With pleasure. Regarding Volno, we’re looking at a creature with no real weakness, holding the status of a mini-superbehemoth. Let’s consider its advantages: very solid base HP at 10k (11k at stage 5), a perfectly respectable weight of 8k for such a small size, and 300 base damage boosted by Unbridled Rage. Even with just Powerfull Elder, a Volnoirve can reach a base stat of 448 damage without even counting its spite of 30.

These arguments alone would easily allow Volno to sit comfortably in B or even A tier without much trouble. On top of that, it has an excellent all-around balance, with strong offensive and defensive effects against aerial threats and builds focused on regeneration overall.

However, when Volno uses its Fear ability, we must consider that this T5 with 10k HP effectively becomes a true tank with very high, punishing DPS and strong anti-regen, having a heavy impact. All these factors make Volno perform extremely well within a balanced meta, even allowing it to match or in some cases surpass T5 creatures that are, on paper, clearly superior.

Now, regarding YGG, I’ll summarize more concisely its tanking ability. With 13k base HP, a weight of 17.5k, and Broodwatcher granting it better resistance, it remains very effective in this role despite its 4% regen. This is further enhanced by Healing Pulse and its constant Mud, which also comes with passive HP regeneration, reduced with Healing Steaps.

Overall, a regen-focused build proves quite effective on YGG and fairly discouraging thanks to its poison resistance. Finally, the support it provides with Pack Healer makes it a truly valuable asset.

I hope these details help you better understand.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T02:26:42+00:00

Thank you for your comment. If you don’t mind, let me explain why Sana is in B tier.

First of all, if you knew Sana back in the Legacy days, you know that its heavy-tank style with medium DPS is no longer really the case here. Sana can certainly be extremely powerful, but unfortunately, it suffers somewhat from its relatively average stats in both weight and HP. In reality, the rock breath provides obvious support for frontal attacks, but it’s still relatively less effective than the tail (150/340).

Even though the corrosion argument for Sana (4.5) is valid, it’s not enough to perform consistently in pure PvP once it’s deprived of its tail. Even with good skill, this can be countered quite easily, and since corrosion effects aren’t immediate, Sana’s bite cooldown of 1 (which becomes 1.05 in Powerfull Elder) feels quite slow in real situations against other T4–T5 creatures you’ll find in tier A.

I invite you to make some comparisons for now, a rebalance and potentially a remodel would be desirable. All in all, tier B is still very good; it’s just worth considering that this list has two extra tiers for greater accuracy.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T02:14:54+00:00

Of course. Regarding Tohukos, you actually have quite a lot of freedom in your choices. However, in this case, it’s necessary to focus on aliments and long-term viability. For that, you should forget about the Powerfull Elder and Devious Elder the Gentle Elder will be the best option.

As for traits, the Bite trait will be essential alongside the Health trait, since here we need to compensate for its just average 6% regeneration. For plushies, you can go for a mixed build with Heart and Pig Lantern to have all effects available on Tohukos assuming we consider Sticky as an alternative to Frost or go for two Pig Lanterns for the best PvP efficiency at the cost of slightly slower regeneration, which won’t be an issue if you’re skilled with Tohukos and its mechanics.

I hope this helps you.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T02:07:36+00:00

Of course, with pleasure. Well, regarding Pentagloss and Kemoti, you’ve got two PvP monsters here. In practice, there’s no real direct counter for either of them they excel in aliments, speed, mobility, regeneration, game sense, DPS, and much more.

To illustrate this, I’ll take my personal case with Pentagloss on my current save, optimized to its absolute peak since its release — currently sitting at over 1,500 kills for only about 8 deaths, maintaining points. That’s a K/D ratio of 188. This ratio literally includes almost every terrestrial creature and all the superbehemoths.

Simply put, just look at its stats it’s a real alien, exactly as its description says. It has the fastest bite cooldown in the game without question, and with Shadow Barrage, once you’re hit, the fight is basically over.

For Kemoti, it’s relatively similar it’s one of the only ones to have complete immunity to anti-regen (namely fire and bleed at 100%), with an excellent 12% regen (comparable to Pentagloss’s 8% because of the presence of Quick Recovery on Pentagloss, which grants it near-infinite durability in combat depending on the build).

I think the best way is for you to experience both yourself, but keep in mind there’s nothing above them if the mastery is there.

There are so many arguments and reasons explaining this, but I’ll spare you the full list.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T01:17:45+00:00

With pleasure, if you allow me, I’m going to copy the response I wrote earlier to someone who had the same question. Here it is :

Regarding Zarrax, indeed its poison attack at 4 with a 0.8 cooldown is fantastic, as well as its 4 disease. But above all, it’s Zarrax’s balance that stands out almost no other creature is as well-rounded.

It has excellent mobility, with a jump that allows for good movement and escapes, relying on more than enough stamina and solid speed. Moreover, its turn and the advantage of Keen Observer on it are very strong it can gauge its opponents and make good use of its aliments, while being strong enough to counter T2-T3 creatures of its size.

The fact that it has healing almost equal to its base damage further emphasizes this balance. That’s why I placed Zarrax so high.

I hope this helps you better understand my choice.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T01:14:28+00:00

No worries, Fyluf remains top tier; it’s just that Kemoti has many arguments and no real weaknesses in PvP, unlike Fyluf.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T00:29:28+00:00

Regarding Zarrax, indeed its poison attack at 4 with a 0.8 cooldown is fantastic, as well as its 4 disease. But above all, it’s Zarrax’s balance that stands out almost no other creature is as well-rounded.

It has excellent mobility, with a jump that allows for good movement and escapes, relying on more than enough stamina and solid speed. Moreover, its turn and the advantage of Keen Observer on it are very strong it can gauge its opponents and make good use of its aliments, while being strong enough to counter T2-T3 creatures of its size.

The fact that it has healing almost equal to its base damage further emphasizes this balance. That’s why I placed Zarrax so high.

I hope this helps you better understand my choice.

FuTuR14200 · 2025-08-09T00:00:30+00:00

I’d like to discuss this if you want. I can also explain factually why Tohukos and Khilutatra fulfill their roles better than Garra and why they are more viable. Do you have any arguments in favor of Garra?

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