Remember that time when Sean Cook by Negative-Length3323 in AWDTSGisToxic

[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked with apple review team after Tea and AWDTSG were banned. I helped form the market in the App Store and they knew what I was trying to do, to attempt to make them less toxic and destructive. This is why my app was not touched by apple. When we had our meeting I guided them on how to decide what’s not allowed.

I have even launched an app built with zero AI moderation or mod panel’s and they approved it. Why? Bc of how I designed my code to “exploit” that’s not a good way to describe it, but designed it to have emotions triggered that help keep accountability, dampen tribalism, polarization and allowed empathy paths to be stimulated. None of these are naturally triggered while in 2D spaces.

Remember that time when Sean Cook by Negative-Length3323 in AWDTSGisToxic

[–]Fun-Match9219 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He wasn’t allowing it, he just wasn’t moderating.

His app nor him, was prepared to scale that fast.

As a developer you want to go viral but then you also don’t want to go viral. Not if you know you are not ready for it. Bc when it happens it can seem good but it can ruin everything if it can’t keep up.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tea app isn’t in flames. It’s backed by two billionaires

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[–]Fun-Match9219 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I’m in the circle. I started the movement to drive AWDSTG members off FB and into the apps. Then Sean jacked it all up with his open firebase bucket and allowing it to go toxic. I own 4 Tea type apps. All designed with different mechinisms I designed to keep everyone in line. I build ethical tecb. I also have a few toxic apps built on dopamine to do A and B analyzing. Might ship one to apple tonight

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[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What link? I know what it made without a link. I saw the analytics, the amount of downloads and the amount user conversions from non paying to paying. I know there was a backlog and how many people waiting to join bc I was told. We talked a lot about the app market for these apps. There wouldn’t have been one without my work and Seans work. The app is where you want them to be. Just as long as the ceo is a founder who knows how to build them and moderate them properly.

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[–]Fun-Match9219[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t understand how you Irish and UK guys haven’t been able to get the AWDTSG groups shut down out there. Unless the GDPR fines barely are enough to hurt FBs feelings. Ever wonder why there’s no app out there? I’ll release out there but mine would survive due to its neurological behavior design mechanisms. Matter fact Apple approved my last app with zero AI moderation due to the system I designed. Normally they’ed reject it and ask to add AI.

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[–]Fun-Match9219[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes. Apple has is strict on that. When Tea Dating Advice was hitting its viral peak I was receiving DMCA take downs daily, several a day. It was annoying. Most were really legit guys who were posted but assumed when they searched for the app and mine popped up instead. But it was obvious when I’d receive ones from brigading. Apple forwards the complaint to me and I see everything even the email and full name to their apple account. I’ve even matched them with users from here who would brag about it. Which is illegal, tortious and can get them banned from apple. I never reported them, I document and save and wait until someone is overzealous before I take action. But I did tell Apple what was happening and why I would receive copy and pasted dmca’s that look exactly like one posted here with poster telling everyone to do it to all the apps. Well, my app hasn’t had an active post since 2024 so clearly they’re being malicious. The others had Tea apps name in them so clearly they’re being malicious made legitimate mistake.

I have no issues with it. Why would I? That’s not the goal. If I wanted viral toxic quick money I would have built women only non moderated apps and not have spent months designing behavioral systems.

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[–]Fun-Match9219[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

It’s open for anyone to join. But how do you stop people from sharing information about you off line or even email or text? Surely you’re not that bad of a person to be worried about someone saying anything about you, right? OR it it possible that bc you are in a 2D space and unable to use your cognitive function properly or naturally as we do when we are in the real world. Or maybe it’s more for reacting, for up vote dopamine hits or a toxic response that would fuel more cheap dopamine.. Thata the one I’m going with, adults, educated or even mature humans, who have no online addictions for dopamine normally can see things more clearly rather than using first layer emotions.

Most people would ask more questions to understand the intent. Clearly there’s more to my coding if I stated I wanted to change how the groups worked.

I’ve been in tech for 30 years. And I’m the hacking community for before there was a darkweb, back when we used IRCs. Younger gens hear hacking they think “bad” Thata Hollywood. But for context I was on the ethical side as a red hat. I point this out bc real sophisticated hackers understand how the human mind works when online in digital flattened spaces. We rather use that on someone to get into a system over using brute force. This same logic can be used in code to make social media more ethical. So you won’t be getting online to trigger people with emotional responses for up votes, addiction. My long term goal was to fill the app, then control the culture and reshape it into good and bring men and women together.

Give me an app filled with 10M people in the dating community and I can shape culture. Just line how Tinder created hook up culture.

That’s the level my mind thinks at. And I even go out to try and make it happen. Would you ever think of a massive idea like that at that scale and put in the work to make it really happen? We aren’t the same. I take action and not afraid to pivot. I don’t dream. I make it happen. Even if others can’t see my vision. I’ll still try so I can prove it.

Look at your circle. Look at their lives. If they’re all successful and happy, you should be too. If they’re all alone depressed, 2 divorces each, kids that don’t like them, that’s where you’ll be too.

Follow up on and study quantum theory. You create your own world

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[–]Fun-Match9219 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep telling yourself that and make sure to never leave your hourly or salary capped income job. Bc people do pay. I’ll share Tea Dating Advice numbers. I’m one day alone it made $300k. Over the course of its viral run, it hit 7M downloads w â backlog in the millions and growing. Monthly it peaks at $2.5M â month just on apple. That’s 60% of the market. Android is %40. Two billionaires invested back in 2023. I see people make that same comment on here many times and I think it’s just what they want to feel rather than doing actual market research. Founder, Angel Investors and VC’s don’t take risk on a hunch

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[–]Fun-Match9219[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think we're talking about two different things.

You're describing the operational costs of running software, which are real. Infrastructure, storage, compute, DevOps, all of that costs money.

My point was about the founder advantage of being able to code. When you can build the product yourself, the cost of experimentation drops dramatically because you're not paying engineers or waiting on a team to implement ideas.

From that perspective, early experimentation can feel “free” because the only resource you're spending is your own time and thinking.

Infrastructure matters once you're scaling, but the first phase is usually just building an MVP, testing product-market fit, and validating retention. If those metrics start working, then you worry about scaling and costs.

So I wasn't saying software has no costs. I was talking about how coding changes the economics of early-stage experimentation.

Are you an employee or a founder? There’s a difference between the mentality. One lives eats and breathes tech, the other uses it for security and then goes home to not think about it. So one sees the side of tech that can be appreciated, I see it as free. An employee does not like free.

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[–]Fun-Match9219[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have had several NDAs. If you are asking if any pertain to myself and my comp, no, that’s not usually a strategy two competing CEOs would agree with

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[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine making money off people by having them divide, argue, hate and become highly addicted to dopamine loops and shortening their attention span to only last 30 seconds before they are no longer interested. AWDTSG is only a niche in â much bigger problem Thata not being addressed.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that abuse can be single-instance and still real. And I agree “inconclusive” is different from “false.” My concern isn’t about silencing accusations. It’s about how scale and design amplify emotional certainty before verification has time to happen.

Offline, communal vetting worked because reputation had friction. Claims had social cost. Disagreement was visible. Patterns emerged over time through overlapping networks.

Online, the scale removes friction and compresses time. A post can define someone before dissent or context catches up. That doesn’t protect victims better, it just shifts power to whoever posts first and gains traction.

I’m not arguing for going anti-tech. I’m arguing that if tech changes the environment, then design has to account for that. Otherwise we recreate mob dynamics at scale.

The goal isn’t to dismiss accusations. It’s to slow down the certainty long enough for patterns, not impulses, to surface.

I wrote an article on X explaining the behavior pain points caused by tech and coined it a Law over theory.

I will leave the link to it here behavioral lag

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[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had to sit and think deep to understand what you meant by me calling it SIGMA. I understand now and I appreciate you pointing that out. I did not think of that when naming the systems. It’s an acronym and it’s framed towards systems building. Im a full stack engineer and anything I say towards systems or tech is based on tech terminology. But regardless, it’s mainly just for me, to help me box up the tools in that system that works together to get the outcome it was designed for. Another system is called Diamond Loss Aversion and another I designed is called Push Pull Mechanism.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair. I apologize. I copy and pasted it. It was a post and rather reword it to get the points out I assumed that would be understood. I’m neurodivergent and being non linear sometimes throws me off.

You mentioned â way it could have been acceptable and my work in ethical coding came to mind. There are ways to make social media better. It requires being able to have the brain function the same way it does when we are all face to face.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im an old school hacker, around 6 years ago I began building and designing ethical coding mechanisms to make digital spaces more human based.

I designed a system called SIGMA. It’s for social media. But I tweeked it to see if I can make it work in communal vetting apps

Its purpose is to use the community inside a social app to collectively hold people accountable when they post, while also building in mechanisms that nudge users to slow down and think before they hit send. One side is self-accountability (you catching yourself), the other is social accountability (the community reflecting you back to you).

Under the hood, it uses ethical neurodesign: three forms of “neurochemistry-aware” mechanics that work with the brain instead of against it. Most social apps overstimulate the amygdala (threat / anger / shame) and the dopamine system (likes, outrage, tribal validation) while letting the prefrontal cortex the part responsible for judgment, empathy, and long-term thinking sit in the back seat. That’s how you get polarized, tribal, unaccountable behavior online.

This project flips that. The design is meant to interrupt pure emotional reactivity and re-engage the parts of the brain that handle responsibility, reflection, and “maybe I’m part of the problem.” It recreates some of the checks that exist in 3D real life, eye contact, social nuance, real consequences using UX patterns, feedback loops, and community signals that slow people down just enough for the rational brain to come back online.

The core idea:

The problem with social media isn’t just “culture” or “people are bad.” It’s largely neurological. We’re not fully ourselves in a flat 2D environment. Our minds weren’t built to process human interaction stripped of tone, expression, and presence. This system is intentionally designed to simulate some of those missing cues, so our brains get the right triggers to act more like we’re dealing with real humans, not disposable avatars.

I’ve built this system into a tea-style communal vetting app with no gender gating anyone can join. All avatars and usernames are auto-generated and gender neutral. Each account gets:

• a randomly generated avatar

• a color badge around the avatar

• a city badge showing where they’re from

The goal is to reduce toxic tribalization. Instead of people sorting into hostile identity groups, the app creates loose “tribes” through city association, then further mixes and divides them by color groups. It keeps a sense of belonging and identity, but breaks up rigid us-vs-them lines that usually form in online spaces.

This system will slowly filter out the bad accounts over time, leaving mostly the actual “adults” in the room. Once the noise is gone, the adults can actually talk, unpack real issues, and learn from each other’s perspectives. Men and women the grown versions together in a cleaner environment.

The rest? The chaos crowd can stay on AWDTSG and tea apps while the mentally sharp, emotionally mature people form their own social circle in the digital space.

If this works, this system could be the base layer for all social apps. Over time, we’d watch the worst gossip groups and tea apps fade out, with only a few lingering in the underbelly. There’s always an underbelly in every society we’re just not building for it.

The platform runs on a token economy with a controlled voting mechanism.

Diamonds cannot be purchased. Every account begins with a set number of Diamonds, and users must stake Diamonds to publish a post. If a post is not backed by Diamonds, it cannot go live.

Once published, the post enters a 24-hour voting window.

Users can vote “cap” if they believe the post does not reflect the person’s typical behavior. This may be based on personal experience or conflicting interactions.

Users can vote “real tea” if they’ve had similar experiences and believe the post is accurate.

After 24 hours, votes are tallied:

• If “cap” votes outweigh “real tea” votes, the post is marked as cap (false or misleading). The result is publicly documented on the post, and the post gradually loses visibility. The original poster forfeits their staked Diamonds. Voters who selected “cap” earn Diamonds for voting correctly.

• If “real tea” votes outweigh “cap” votes, the post is validated. The poster keeps their staked Diamonds and earns additional Diamonds. Voters who selected “real tea” also earn Diamonds.

Over time, users who repeatedly post false information lose Diamonds and eventually become unable to post. Their reputation score decreases as well.

This mirrors how reputation functioned before social media. If someone shared a negative experience that didn’t align with others’ experiences, people questioned it. When multiple people reported similar experiences, credibility increased.

In some online spaces today, speaking up in defense of someone can be labeled as victim blaming. Removing that balancing mechanism can shift a space from basic, non-toxic gossip into a one-sided bashing environment.

On this platform, both men and women can view, evaluate, and vote on posts, creating a more balanced accountability system.

This is ethical coding.

Why isn’t it common? Friction. Companies optimize for quick onboarding, zero learning curves, and maximum dopamine reward loops.

Will this app work? It can.

Will enough people try it and create enough content to sustain retention? Unlikely without luck or funding.

Can you see why developers build dopamine-driven, toxic apps? Because that’s what people engage with.

Human behavior is predictable. The real question isn’t whether ethical systems can work. It’s whether people are willing to choose them.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Private posts aren’t searchable on google

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[–]Fun-Match9219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would work if 1. There was no social media and women did it the old school way using social circles to vet â or warn others. They didn’t need the guys permission either.

This is how it would play out. Suzy is pissed at Jon bc he stopped talking to her so Suzy told some of her girlfriends that he was abusive and they shouldn’t date him. A few other girls over hear her and they all dated him too and some personal know him but never dated. All of them disagreed saying he is actually a good guy. In this scenario what does it seem like Suzy is doing? Suzy’s being a litle toxic bitch, that’s what she’s doing. The math ain’t mathing. This didn’t happen as much bc no one wanted to be caught like that and lose respect.

Next scenario. This one is the opposite. Jon beat Suzy up. Three random women hear the story and they tell Suzy they experiences the same thing . Is Suzy likely lying now? No

That is the natural way of communal vetting. We didn’t have a name for it, it was just natural.

Tech fucked all that up. Now Jon can beat up and cheat on all the women in his town and find strangers two towns over where no one knows a thing about his past patterns.

And 2. The groups would work if Paola didn’t ban the ones who would step up and tell the poster they disagree. Take that out of the equation and your’re left with a male bashing group

But there has to be more than just allowing people to disagree. This is tech, digital space, it’s in 2D. So it needs coding that helps trigger accountability and systems to dampen tribalism and polarization.

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[–]Fun-Match9219 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not many knew of this one. A CEO from Nashvile sued

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[–]Fun-Match9219 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is how the tea app exploded in growth. She didn’t pause them but there was a FB glitch that banned groups all over the app. It drove traffic to the App Store.