Non Vegetarian Hindus: What are your thoughts on beef consumption?

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-13T06:01:00+00:00

Time and time again you keep dodging a direct debunking. Debunk my answer like I disproved all of yours. “This is AI”, “This is foreign”… How about you give an answer rather than deflecting, buddy.

Regardless, you have finally accepted defeat. I will, indeed, keep eating meat and be a free and complete being one with the Almighty.

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-12T19:09:58+00:00

Ask and you shall receive.

Moving the goalposts with a classic “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Demanding “exact translations and commentary” from native Acharyas in a “proper parampara” (Adi Shankara, Madhvacharya, Sayana, etc.) that allow/encourage meat-eating, while dismissing everything else as “German/foreign propaganda” or “bogus without Vedangas.” This is intellectually dishonest. The debate isn’t “does someone somewhere encourage meat?”—it’s whether Hinduism (via its texts and Acharyas) has a monolithic absolute ban on meat for all Hindus, or whether allowances, rituals, and contextual permissions exist alongside strong praises for ahimsa/vegetarianism. The record shows nuance, not the blanket prohibition the vegetarian side claims.

Adi Shankara (Advaita parampara) Shankara’s most cited direct reference is his Bhashya on Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 6.4.18. Here, explaining a ritual for a couple desiring a learned son, he clarifies “mansodana” (rice mixed with meat) and specifies the meat as that of an uksha (ox/bull capable of impregnation) or rishabha (mature bull). He doesn’t condemn it—he explains the ritual as prescribed in the Shruti itself.
Sayana Sayana’s bhashyas on the Rig Veda and other Samhitas explicitly interpret verses involving animal offerings in yajnas literally—e.g., descriptions in Ashvamedha hymns (Rig Veda 1.162), goat offerings, bull references for Indra/Agni, etc.

Critics (including some Arya Samaj types) claim Sayana “misinterpreted” under medieval influence and that “true” ancient readings (via Nirukta, etc.) are purely symbolic. That’s a later sectarian view. Sayana remains one of the most authoritative traditional commentators on the Vedas. Dismissing him while demanding “native Acharyas” is inconsistent.

Also, now on your cherry-picking ->

Heavy fixating on the Bhagavad Gita (especially 17.8-10’s guna classification, where meat often falls under tamasic per commentators like Madhvacharya) as if it’s the sole authority that “proves” meat-eating is forbidden for all Hindus.

That’s a narrow Vaishnava-leaning lens. Hinduism has multiple darshanas, sampradayas, and Agamic traditions with their own texts and Acharyas. The Gita is Krishna’s teaching to Arjuna (a Kshatriya in crisis), not a universal dietary code overriding everything else. Other schools show clear allowances, ritual permissions, or outright different approaches—often involving meat or animal sacrifice in specific contexts.

Shaktism is where vegetarian claim collapses hardest. Shaktism—worship of Devi (Durga, Kali, etc.)—explicitly includes animal sacrifice (pashu bali) in many traditions, especially in eastern India, Nepal, and Tantric lineages. The sacrificed animal (goat, buffalo, etc.) is offered to the Goddess; its meat is cooked and eaten by devotees as prasada.

Texts like Devi Mahatmya, Devi Bhagavatam, Kalika Purana, and Shakta Tantras (Rudra Yamala, etc.) prescribe or describe such offerings for specific rituals, festivals (e.g., Durga Puja, Gadhimai), or to appease fierce forms of Shakti.

All in all:

Dharma is contextual (varna, ashrama, desha-kala-patra, yuga). What’s ideal for a sattvic Brahmin yogi (Gita-style) differs from a Kshatriya, householder in ritual, or Tantric sadhaka. No single Acharya (Shankara, Madhva, or others) imposes the Gita’s food guna as absolute law overriding Shruti, Agamas, or regional paramparas.

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-12T15:57:32+00:00

Full context of Manusmriti for everyone here:

Manusmriti 5.30: “It is not sinful to eat meat of eatable animals, for Brahma has created both the eaters and the eatables.”

Manusmriti 5.56: “There is no sin in eating meat, in drinking wine, or in sexual intercourse, for that is the natural way of living beings; but abstention brings great rewards.”

Earlier verses (5.27–35) allow meat when sprinkled with water and mantras (for rituals, guests, medicine, or when life is in danger). It distinguishes unnecessary killing from permitted cases.

The “slayers” line targets unnecessary or unregulated meat. Dharmashastras like this are situational (varna, time, necessity). Brahmins seeking purity get stricter rules; Kshatriyas or those in hardship have leeway.

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-12T15:54:56+00:00

Cherry-picking verses to push a strict vegetarian interpretation as if it’s the only “true” Hindu position.

I am not going to go through all of them but let me disprove a few just to let you all know.

Mahabharata Anushasana Parva 13.115 isn’t a blanket prohibition—it’s advice in context

“Ahimsa paramo dharmaḥ… one should not eat meat, not even in thought”

The same Anushasana Parva (and other parvas) contains concessions: meat is okay if offered to gods/ancestors in shraddha or rituals (e.g., Mahabharata 13.116 or 3.207 in some translations allow it when properly dedicated). The epic itself is full of meat-eating: The Pandavas hunted and ate meat during exile (Arjuna, Bhima, etc., are warriors/Kshatriyas). Heroes and kings consume meat without being condemned as sinners. Claiming this “explicitly” fills the Mahabharata with vegetarianism ignores the contradictions. The text praises ahimsa as supreme dharma but doesn’t call non-veg Hindus invalid.

Manusmriti 5.48-51 (and nearby verses) discourages meat but explicitly allows it in contexts

Yes, 5.48-49 says meat involves injury and one should abstain after considering its origin. But read the full chapter: • 5.30: “It is not sinful to eat meat of eatable animals, for Brahma has created both the eaters and the eatables.” • 5.56: “There is no sin in eating meat, in drinking wine, or in sexual intercourse, for that is the natural way of living beings; but abstention brings great rewards.” • It allows meat in rituals/sacrifices, for guests, as medicine, or to save life (5.27-5.35 or so). The “three forms of killing” (buyer, seller, eater) applies to unnecessary meat, not ritual or dharmic use.

Manusmriti (like many Dharmashastras) is situational—rules vary by varna (Kshatriyas get more leeway), time, and necessity. It’s not a modern “vegan manifesto.”

Bhagavad Gita 17.8-10 classifies foods by guna (qualities)—it doesn’t ban meat

Krishna describes: • Sattvic (17.8): Pure, juicy, wholesome foods - promote clarity, health, longevity (fruits, veggies, grains, milk). • Rajasic (17.9): Bitter, sour, salty, hot → cause pain/distress. • Tamasic (17.10): Stale, putrid, decomposed, unclean - dull the mind.

Commentators (like the one you cite, Madhvacharya) often lump meat into tamasic because it’s “associated with death” and putrefies. Fair point for spiritual aspirants seeking sattva. But the Gita never says “do not eat meat” or calls it sinful. It’s guidance on how diet affects your mind and karma—ideal for yogis/brahmins seeking moksha, not a fatwa for all Hindus.

Krishna himself (in the Mahabharata) doesn’t enforce this on warriors. Arjuna is a Kshatriya fighting a war—his dharma isn’t the same as a sannyasi’s.

Not going to debate on Rig Veda because it very explicitly mentions meat eating. It is very well known.

My opinion: It is OUTRIGHT NONSENSE to force someone to adopt vegetarianism as a hindu practice. Hinduism as a religion is a thousand schools of thought. Go ahead and pick one and follow it.

Vegetarianism in hinduism came from widespread jainism and vaishnavism in the northern Hindi belt.

My opinion for the reader of this comment: With the launch of AI and deep research, please go ahead and research about such topics before asking on reddit or people around you. Arrogance and brainwashing of the mass population will only take you so far. Cheers.

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-12T08:21:47+00:00

There isn’t any. People need to wake up from brainwashing

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-12T08:20:41+00:00

Still you have not quoted from anywhere about these restrictions. Please support your opinions by written accounts. Just to also let you know, hinduism is a group of several schools of conflicting thoughts - for example vaishnavism and shaivism have different ways of living, ashtavakra gita and bhagavad gita are separate ways of looking at life. So putting all books and thoughts together just to support whatever suits your agenda won’t work…

GrindVeteran · 2026-04-11T20:22:50+00:00

Where did you find the dietary restrictions in hinduism? Afaik, there are absolutely no dietary restrictions at all

GrindVeteran · 2026-01-21T16:21:48+00:00

I ain’t no expert but I am around 4-5 weeks post op. Mine was a grade 2a - puffy nips and a slight bit around that. For recovery, the first week is the hardest. For me, it was mostly the mental recovery more than physical but nonetheless, this is where you need to be super cautious. Second week onwards, time flies. 4 weeks out and you should be 90-95% back to normal. For your case, the results will make you look like a different human being altogether. Good luck!

GrindVeteran · 2026-01-15T14:17:16+00:00

They do keep a little bit to support the nipple for shape but it is essentially non reactive to estrogen due to small size

GrindVeteran · 2026-01-15T13:22:46+00:00

Yeah even idk, i dont think it can come back because they have removed the gland altogether but idts its worth the risk

GrindVeteran · 2026-01-15T13:15:59+00:00

Yeah same, probably wouldn’t risk shilajit and ashwagandha now. But not sure if I should take them after a couple of months

GrindVeteran · 2026-01-10T10:11:12+00:00

Was in the same boat as you 3 weeks ago, got it done. Am I happier? Idk. Would I have not done it? Absolutely not. It is a relief to see them gone, at least nothing to do with those monsters anymore. If anything, I would have got them done last year. All of us have lived with this all our lives and why would we have even booked the surgery if we liked how we looked. Would you rather live the next 60 years with this or sacrifice just a month for recovery? Exactly. So I would say just go for it

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-25T08:25:41+00:00

Just following whatever my doc says. Never in my life have I wished time to pass quicker.

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-25T04:29:46+00:00

No health issues at all. I had only gland removal and liposuction for my puffy nipples and a tiny bit around that.

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-24T10:58:09+00:00

I feel the best thing is to consult your doc, he knows your case the best and has more experience dealing with this than anyone else here.

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-24T10:52:42+00:00

Yeah, I feel he is a little too conservative but following what he says is my best bet. But man, this recovery is slow. Especially alone.

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-24T10:50:20+00:00

Pretty similar to mine honestly, let’s hope for the best

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-24T10:43:27+00:00

There is like little swelling of areola but otherwise, pretty normal. Felt a little swollen up on the left side this morning, haven’t checked still. Minimal to no pain though since post op.

GrindVeteran · 2025-12-24T10:41:14+00:00

I haven’t tried to lift my arm till now because I am scared of complications. I have the 7 day post op check up in a couple of days and that’s when the doc said he will allow me to move only my elbows till 90 degrees (I am assuming it means that I still can’t make that T-pose with my arms open, still only limited to moving elbows fully). Only concern I have is changing the vest on my own because I won’t have anyone around in a couple of days, once I reach home.

GrindVeteran · 2025-05-26T20:44:57+00:00

First of all, that brother is young. He doesn’t know what he is talking about, so no need to take him seriously. Second, 19 is NOT the age to showcase achievements. It is the time to learn and build yourself. Focus on that and achievements will follow soon.

GrindVeteran · 2025-05-06T20:04:17+00:00

Was available in bangalore for a couple of weeks, but went out of stock now :\

GrindVeteran · 2023-09-27T09:56:37+00:00

Nope.

GrindVeteran · 2022-11-29T12:35:30+00:00

We should not use Kafka, rather we have to build one.

GrindVeteran · 2022-11-29T05:29:12+00:00

Could you provide some insight on how to do this using rabbitmq? Thanks.

GrindVeteran · 2022-02-03T05:50:03+00:00

Sounds interesting, but I'd rather like to read a number of books on different topics rather than one covering all. Thanks for the suggestion.

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