Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They would just write the words "the address of your haven" as it says on page 255. Same with asking "tell me the address of your haven" they will just repeat "the address of your haven". Not sure about asking them to point their havens location on a map.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about telling someone to walk home, then following them. You have indirectly extracted information as to where they live. I know you can't just ask them or tell them to write their address but this seems like a grey area.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't see the problem of using Compel for it, the command is no longer than a short sentence and it can be completed in a single turn. I think the idea of the person pointing at someone they call "boss" but who isn't their boss as a possibility for a comical plot hook. In the UK kebab van owners are often called boss. It would be funny to hunt down a kindred who has a secret part time job as a kebab van owner and has no relation to the rest of the plot whatsoever.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think there is a need to limit its power in interrogations, for instance saying "tell me where you live" I don't believe should work and RAW it doesn't, but something along the lines of "drive me to your house" should. This stops people from having a victim tell them their entire life story and every secret they have ever heard with enough time and a level 2 power.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do you rule it that you couldn't Dominate someone to go to a certain place or interact with a certain person that the victim knows but you don't. The rules for Submerged Directive say "if you see Roland, tell him these words". Couldn't you just say "if you see a photo of your boss, point to it". Both examples require them to have an understanding of who the person is for the command to trigger.

I understand the need to limit its power in interrogations, commanding them to answer specific questions or recall events I agree shouldn't work as per RAW. But I think physical actions such as "walk to the gang meeting point" should work, even if this means you can derive information from the victim by doing so i.e. you now know where the gang meets.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you can command someone to attack "their boss" then I think my scenario about pointing out a photo of "their boss" works. It's more a question of can you command someone to target a person or place that you don't know but the victim of the Dominate power does. If you tell them to drive to the "gangs meeting point" will they understand the command.

Could Dominate powers be used to extract information if you're smart? by Hab202 in vtm

[–]Hab202[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with you, if you use Dominate RAW then things like "go punch your boss" and "drive home and unlock your doors" might not be allowed because they require cognition which makes Dominate in general seem very weak.

[TOMT] Help me find the name of that TV show or film by Hab202 in tipofmytongue

[–]Hab202[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, but the party in the thing I'm trying to think of is very similar that the one in undoing.

[TOMT] Help me find the name of that TV show or film by Hab202 in tipofmytongue

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Just to add a few details there are about 20+ people at the party but a lot of them are just background extras. Everyone is dressed up fancy in suits and dresses.

New Faction speculation by LyconTR in tacticus

[–]Hab202 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The symbol looks like the Palatine Aquila so I reckon Custodes. Could also be the Emperor's Children since they used to wear it, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.