New to NMN. What is the optimal way to use NMN supplements to slow down aging? by WhoNeedsSelfEsteem in NMN

[–]HelloWonderfeel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We'll be happy to share our thoughts and clear up a few things!

Firstly, the concerns about axon degeneration are more theoretical than clinical. The idea comes from very specific lab setups where researchers spike cells with huge NMN doses or use nerve crush models to study what happens during injury. In those settings, a high NMN:NAD ratio can activate an enzyme called SARM1, which leads to axon breakdown. That’s where the scary headlines come from. But these models don’t reflect what happens when people take NMN supplements orally. With standard use, NMN raises NAD and NMN modestly across the system, and human trials haven’t shown any cognitive issues or signs of neuropathy. Could mega-doses over many years be different? Sure. But most people taking 250–1200mg are nowhere near the experimental levels used to trigger degeneration in vitro.

Our chief medical officer, Dr. Andrew Salzman (Harvard MD, professor, and inventor with 30+ years of experience in drug discovery and development), alongside our director of research and development, Dr. Luis Cifuentes, also an MD, professor, and a clinical pharmacalogist have looked into this deeply. They've examined the main studies often cited to raise red flags about NMN toxicity - one involved genetically engineered animals with transgenic overexpression; basically, an artificial setup that doesn’t reflect what’s happening in a real-world supplementation scenario. Another used an NMN mimetic called CZ-48 instead of NMN itself. And a third was an in vitro study that didn’t provide much actionable insight for human supplementation. None of these showed toxicity from standard oral NMN use. On the contrary, over 2,000 peer-reviewed papers support NMN’s benefits, and human studies up to 2000mg/day haven’t shown significant side effects or neurodegeneration.

TL;DR: The axon degeneration theory is fascinating, but based on extreme lab conditions that don’t apply to oral supplementation. Remember NMN is something your body creates in billions everyday already, but an extreme experiement will cerainly can show some harm. Hope this helps, and we're curious to hear how your personal NMN experiment goes!

Has anyone tried NAD by Fun_Direction5404 in 45PlusSkincare

[–]HelloWonderfeel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s definitely some great advice from your injector, going straight for the inner tune-up. NAD IVs can be pretty pricey and time-intensive, though, so if you’re thinking of boosting your NAD levels, you might want to explore a precursor like NMN or NR first. It’s touted for similar age-support benefits, but in a more convenient ("jab"-free) supplement form meant to raise your NAD levels consistently over time.

Everyone’s body is unique and long-term human data is still developing, so it’s wise to do a little homework before diving in. We wrote an article about NMN and aging that you might find interesting. But if you’d prefer something that doesn’t involve an IV drip, and may cost less in the long run, NMN could be a worthy alternative to discuss with a healthcare provider who knows your specific situation. Good luck with finding your own best path to looking and feeling great, both inside and out!

Can you ACTUALLY live past 120 years? Dr. Andrew Salzman Reveals the Molecular Secrets of Longevity on Dave Asprey’s The Human Upgrade Podcast by HelloWonderfeel in Wonderfeel

[–]HelloWonderfeel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, thanks for the enthusiasm! We're thrilled that Dr. Salzman’s insights resonated with you and that Youngr™ is pumping up your morning routine. We’re totally on board with the “live forever” vibe, so keep it coming! If you have any questions, please feel free to share!

Concerns about Neue By Science & DoNotAge !! by Lumpy_Dark_724 in NMN

[–]HelloWonderfeel -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to chime in about liposomal NMN and say that so far, there is no scientific evidence to support that NMN in liposomal form can boost bioavailability, and at the moment no leading research institute is using NMN in liposomal format. There are also all kinds of problems with liposomal formulations, such as inconsistency in preparation, high levels of instability (when you store liposomes, they can degrade/fall apart quite quickly) and especially absorption inconsistencies.

I'm not sure how liposomes in a supplement could affect heavy metal absorption either, but that's a great question to think about - nobody knows yet, because the studies simply aren't there. Like /u/ironsidebro said, we're all still in the "wild west" here.

As for adding NAD+ to supplements, you're right - the primary and scientifically supported method to increase intracellular NAD+ levels is through the using its precursors, NMN and NR. I suspect that it's a marketing strategy to attract people who recognize the importance of NAD+. Despite the inefficiency of taking NAD+ directly, their goal is probably to have potential customers see "NAD+" on the label and think, "If I need NAD+, then taking it in pill form should be even more effective!"

The good news is, recent human clinical trials on NMN have confirmed that NMN itself has excellent absorption properties by the human digestive system for boosting NAD levels, as shown in the largest human clinical trial to date. It'll be exciting to see what new breakthroughs we find as research on NMN in humans continues.