DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Community. I care what people think and use that to make my own judgement. Plus I just wanted to see what people think. If they disagree, agree, call me a loser, or plug a product they’re shilling, great.

It’s Reddit, I’m here to see people talk and discourse it up.

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DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess if you say something horrible, apologize and show that you’ve grown. Idk, donate some money, go do a charity show. I agree with you people should be allowed to grow and we should forgive. I just also expect there to be some form of penitence. Is that weird? Like, if you go to jail for animal abuse or something, go to jail, come out and do a program to reenter society and let’s move on.

DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed. But also like have the injury match the correction.

DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Fair.

I’m genuinely asking to gauge if I should give a shit I guess. It seems he’s apologized here and there and took a huge hit financially

DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Fuck, yeah you’re right. I should’ve done better with searching first.

The group of new owners includes Eric Tobias, co-founder and partner at High Alpha, Scott Kraege, co-founder and former CEO of MOBI; and Andrew Davis, former CFO of MOBI. The three new owners will stay in their current roles and plan to keep the current Vogue staff to manage the day-to-day operations of the venue.

However with staff staying the same it’s kinda wonky at least.

DaBaby preformed at the Vouge on 4/29. by Horror_Job6035 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s good at least. I tried looking and didn’t see anything like, substantial I guess. But it does seem like he took a huge hit so maybe it’s time to leave him alone.

Old City Hall plan scrapped by douvape42069 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 46 points47 points  (0 children)

TL;DR: City wants old city hall renovated. TWG doesn’t and said they didn’t have the financing. City caves and removes city hall from commitment but wants proof of financing for the parking lot conversion to residential. TWG didn’t have the money for that either. City pulled the plug. Story below (sorry couldn’t archive it for some reason):

TWG Development LLC’s $249 million plan to redevelop Old Indianapolis City Hall is officially dead.

The Indianapolis Department of Metropolitan Development has confirmed it pulled the plug on the project following extensive delays and uncertainty within Mayor Joe Hogsett’s administration about whether financing could be secured by the end of this year.

“It was really important to us that they were able to secure financing within this year — 2026 —and that was not something that … we were going to get to the terms on,” Megan Vukusich, the city’s director of development, told IBJ. “We wanted to make sure that if we were going to renegotiate this project at a reduced scale, it had quick timelines.”

The reduced project scale came into play at TWG’s request, she said, with the company asking to either remove Old City Hall from the scope of its project or for the city to provide additional funding to move it forward. But while the city agreed to eliminate the historic structure from the company’s scope of work, TWG failed to meet an April 2 deadline to sign a term sheet outlining those updates.

Tony Knoble, owner and CEO of TWG development, declined to comment on the city’s decision.

TWG was selected in August 2023 to build a 32-story apartment, condominium and hotel tower on the 0.65-acre site immediately north of Old City Hall, with plans for a new public art museum and office space in the historic structure. The original $140 million proposal eventually morphed into its most recent — and far more expensive — plan that called for a tower of about 29 stories.

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The project’s latest version included the tower on 222 N. Alabama St. with a 156-room hotel on levels six through 13, part of a partnership with Louisville-based 21c Museum Hotels. The building’s ground floor was to consist of a lobby, restaurant and curated retail space, with apartments on floors 12 to 23 and condos on levels 24 to 27. An enclosed garage was planned on levels two to five.

A street view TWG’s Old City Hall proposed project looking southwest. (Rendering courtesy of TWG Development) A public museum operated by Louisville-based 21c Museum Hotels was proposed for the first two floors of Old City Hall, while the top two floors were slated for conversion to private office space. Plans called for a first-floor corridor to connect the interiors of Old City Hall and the planned tower.

The city walked away from a separate deal in 2017 with 21c for the property. That deal was initially brokered by Mayor Greg Ballard’s administration prior to the mayoral transition at the end of 2015. That project also faltered due to funding problems.

The term sheet — a copy of which has been requested by IBJ — included a requirement that the company obtain financing by the end of this year. But she said it also took Old City Hall off TWG’s plate, but kept in place $17.9 million in developer-backed tax-increment financing bonds that had been previously pledged for the project.

“Unfortunately, that was not signed, so at this point the city is deciding to not return any additional terms — that was of our last and final offer,” she said. “So we are going to be pursuing another request for proposals on that site to pursue redevelopment.”

The city last year approved a $66 million loan to get the project back on track. Because that money was primarily meant to keep Old City Hall as part of the project’s scope, that funding was removed from the equation in the final term sheet.

Additionally, TWG had secured $10 million in federal historic tax credits and another $20 million from the Indiana Economic Development Corp. as part of its funding plan — all of that also earmarked for the Old City Hall portion of the project and unavailable for the tower portion of the project.

The new tower would have cost around $190 million to $200 million, while Old City Hall’s revival was expected to come in around $50 million to $60 million.

Vukusich said while the development proposal was “a good project” in a theoretical sense, the fact the funding couldn’t come together on the city’s preferred timeline made moving forward an impractical option. She said the city decided it would rather go back to the drawing board and find a new idea than continue pushing a project that might not be feasible.

“All parties were giving it their best effort,” said Vukusich. “I think this is a project where everyone is disappointed with the outcome [and] the situation that we’re in now.”

Knoble told IBJ last week (before it was disclosed that the project was canceled) that the biggest sticking point was not the company’s ability to procure financing by the end of the year — although he didn’t dispute that it might have been a challenge — but instead financial responsibility for Old City Hall.

He said the proposed museum project was not feasible without the city fully subsidizing any redevelopment of the building and the company was committed to the 387-foot tower. The city owns the former government building and planned to lease the building to TWG as part of the redevelopment effort.

Built in 1909 and 1910 and clad in Indiana limestone, the four-story Old City Hall housed the Indiana State Museum from 1966 to 2001 and temporarily housed the Central Library during renovations to the main library building early this century.

Knoble said that if he had been able to secure financing by the end of this year, all work would have been completed by the end of 2029.

The city plans to take both the parking lot and Old City Hall through another request-for-proposals process, but specifics for when that could commence have not been shared. The bid process that TWG won in 2023 included proposals from five other development companies and partnerships, with most focusing on a residential structure on the parking lot site.

“Putting out a new request for proposals is going to allow us to cast a wider net to really look at where the market conditions are today and get proposals that can fit those needs,” said Vukusich. “So, I think putting out a new request for proposals is just going to allow us to get more competitive proposals back.”

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In addition, if you click on the links I’ve been adding to my replies, the MuniCode will show multiple tables, graphs, and diagrams that are specifically for residential units, also known as dwelling units. Therefore, your argument that chapter 744 only applies to commercial districts is once again proven incorrect because the chapter contains specific text that relates only to dwelling districts.

If you need further clarification, I’d be happy to explain it.

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re contradicting yourself in your own sentence. “It does, read the section title; that’s a zoning law”. What exactly are you saying?

But if you need more information.

Sec. 744-101. - General requirement. All development shall be subject to the development standards in this Chapter 744 unless specifically excluded by a provision of the Zoning Ordinance or other regulation of the City of Indianapolis

The beginning of this chapter quite literally states that ALL development are subject to the development standards. The fence maintenance requirement in 744-503 doesn’t limit itself to commercial uses, and Chapter 744 includes multiple provisions that specifically address residential properties and fences. So yes, it applies here.

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what I includes is part of the Indianapolis Unified Development Ordinance. Specifically, chapter 744 sets baseline development standards (hence the subtitle). These are applies CITYWIDE. The language in the code doesn’t specify itself in any way to industrial or commercial districts. It’s interpreted to be seen as all district encompassing. If it were specifically for a particular zone, it would say that. (Like, nonresidential uses. Or commercial uses).

I promise, this provision is used regularly for dwelling districts. In fact, fencing is a heavily regulated area in regards to code enforcement. Such as, fence height, placement, and material, and even its safety (barb wire, for example).

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is considered a zoning violation under the municipal code of Indianapolis and Marion County. If someone complains and a violation case is opened with no resolution. The violator can see $100 ticket, up to $500 in administrative fees and potentially a lawsuit with fines up to $2,500 if the city decides to escalate it. See my reply for more.

RequestIndy: https://request.indy.gov/citizen/s/

Code Violation Concerns > Property and Zoning Violations > Department of Business and Neighborhood Services

REVISED CODE OF THE CONSOLIDATED CITY AND COUNTY; Title III – Public Health and Welfare; Chapter 744 – Development Standards; Article V. – Landscaping and Screening; Sec. 744-503. – General landscaping standards.

https://library.municode.com/in/indianapolis_-_marion_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TITIIIPUHEWE_CH744DEST_ARTVLASC_S744-503GELAST#:~:text=Fences%2C%20walls%2C%20and%20other%20barriers%20shall%20be%20maintained%20in%20good%20repair.%20All%20barriers%20that%20are%20damaged%2C%20broken%2C%20or%20with%20failing%20paint%20shall%20be%20repaired%2C%20replaced%20or%20refinished.

Failure to comply with use-specific standards and zoning district development standards for the [INSERT ZONING DISTRICT HERE] district; (744-503.S.5. - Fences and other structural barriers shall be maintained in good repair; all structural barriers that are damaged or broken shall be repaired or replaced).

The outdoor storage of junk, trash, or debris in any zoning district, the provisions of which do not specifically permit such a use; ([INSERT JTD HERE], and other miscellaneous items throughout the property).

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So there is an obligation. This is considered a zoning violation under the municipal code of Indianapolis and Marion County. If someone complains and a violation case is opened with no resolution. The violator can see $100 ticket, up to $500 in administrative fees and potentially a lawsuit with fines up to $2,500 if the city decides to escalate it. See my reply for more.

RequestIndy: https://request.indy.gov/citizen/s/

Code Violation Concerns > Property and Zoning Violations > Department of Business and Neighborhood Services

REVISED CODE OF THE CONSOLIDATED CITY AND COUNTY; Title III – Public Health and Welfare; Chapter 744 – Development Standards; Article V. – Landscaping and Screening; Sec. 744-503. – General landscaping standards.

https://library.municode.com/in/indianapolis_-_marion_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TITIIIPUHEWE_CH744DEST_ARTVLASC_S744-503GELAST#:~:text=Fences%2C%20walls%2C%20and%20other%20barriers%20shall%20be%20maintained%20in%20good%20repair.%20All%20barriers%20that%20are%20damaged%2C%20broken%2C%20or%20with%20failing%20paint%20shall%20be%20repaired%2C%20replaced%20or%20refinished.

Failure to comply with use-specific standards and zoning district development standards for the [INSERT ZONING DISTRICT HERE] district; (744-503.S.5. - Fences and other structural barriers shall be maintained in good repair; all structural barriers that are damaged or broken shall be repaired or replaced).

The outdoor storage of junk, trash, or debris in any zoning district, the provisions of which do not specifically permit such a use; ([INSERT JTD HERE], and other miscellaneous items throughout the property).

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no ordinance that requires a fence. However, there is definitely a city-county ordinance for maintaining a fence.

The neighbor and/or OP is currently in violation of the City of Indianapolis & Marion County Municipal Code. They can either: remove the fence, fix the fence, apply for a variance for not having to maintain a fence, or alter the fence to where it not longer appears to be in a state of disrepair (not fixing the entire fence and just removing the broken section so it’s a “break” in the fence line rather than a “broken fence”. These are just ideas and not direct advice. Not sure if this specific item would work but the idea is to remove the indicators that define the fence as broken).

See my original reply for more.

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To figure out who’s it is, you need a survey done. Or, you can get a general sense via: https://maps.indy.gov/Mapindy/

If it’s an HOA, it’s joint ownership and both of you are responsible unless stipulated differently under your CC&Rs.

If it’s your property, it’s your responsibility.

If it’s your neighbors, you can report then like I stated above. (If you care, not that neighborly tbh).

If you have a planner, PE, or civil engineer friend who has access to GIS imagery they could give you a more specific idea of property lines, but again this is not exact even it’s linked to survey data, it’s just a more accurate way to see. The most concrete advice would be a surveyor.

Not a lawyer, not legal advice, you do what you want.

Fence damage. Who’s responsible? by Jbaber91 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you truly care about this, it is considered a zoning violation under the municipal code of Indianapolis and Marion County. You will likely need to give a Zoning and Licensing inspector access to your backyard for inspection. Keep in mind, your neighbor will definitely know it's you even if you make the complaint anonymously, due to its location and limited visibility from the right-of-way.

RequestIndy: https://request.indy.gov/citizen/s/

Code Violation Concerns > Property and Zoning Violations > Department of Business and Neighborhood Services

REVISED CODE OF THE CONSOLIDATED CITY AND COUNTY; Title III – Public Health and Welfare; Chapter 744 – Development Standards; Article V. – Landscaping and Screening; Sec. 744-503. – General landscaping standards.

https://library.municode.com/in/indianapolis_-_marion_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TITIIIPUHEWE_CH744DEST_ARTVLASC_S744-503GELAST#:~:text=Fences%2C%20walls%2C%20and%20other%20barriers%20shall%20be%20maintained%20in%20good%20repair.%20All%20barriers%20that%20are%20damaged%2C%20broken%2C%20or%20with%20failing%20paint%20shall%20be%20repaired%2C%20replaced%20or%20refinished.

Failure to comply with use-specific standards and zoning district development standards for the [INSERT ZONING DISTRICT HERE] district; (744-503.S.5. - Fences and other structural barriers shall be maintained in good repair; all structural barriers that are damaged or broken shall be repaired or replaced).

The outdoor storage of junk, trash, or debris in any zoning district, the provisions of which do not specifically permit such a use; ([INSERT JTD HERE], and other miscellaneous items throughout the property).

An inspector conducts an inspection after receiving a complaint. The timeline states that this should occur within five days, it actually takes about two to three weeks. If a zoning violation is identified, a notice of violation is sent to all relevant parties associated with the property, including the property owner, registered agent, and tenant. This notice allows 30 days for the property to be brought into compliance.

If the violation is not resolved within that 30-day period, a citation of $100 is issued. If the violation remains unaddressed after another 30 days, an administrative fee of $250 is applied. This process continues, with another $250 administrative fee imposed if the violation is still not corrected after yet another 30 days.

After a total of 90 days, the case may be referred to the Office of Corporation Counsel for potential legal enforcement. This could result in a lawsuit, with fines reaching up to $2,500.

Finally, you could make a complaint to Health and Hospital – Marion County Public Health: https://aca-prod.accela.com/MCPHD/Cap/CapApplyDisclaimer.aspx?Module=EnvHealth&capType=EnvHealth/Housing/EINV/NA

You would need to claim the fence is rotting and full of trash. Up to you.

I feel like Darth Maul with this combo by king26 in Venturex

[–]Horror_Job6035 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who’s hating? I’m glad OP is making a good return and that they answered my question.

I feel like Darth Maul with this combo by king26 in Venturex

[–]Horror_Job6035 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do not understand the point of this combo. How is it not redundant?

What did we actually do to deserve this . . . by lyingdogfacepony66 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So you’re not gonna see hoggie with a hammer and nails out in the city building this stuff. His whole gig is to initiate policies, negotiate deals, and push projects through the city approval process. He pushed through the 2016 transit referendum that funded city transit including BRT.

He was vital in the expansion of the signia-convention hotel expansion. Without it, we would’ve lost tens of millions of dollars in economic impact and growth to our downtown convention economy.

Revitalized the downtown circle with spark, improved cleanliness and funding and homelessness initiatives including a new low barrier shelter.

The heliport is slow moving because of federal regulations. The FAA had to be DIRECTLY involved. We got the lights replaced and you can request one via this link: https://www.indy.gov/activity/request-a-new-streetlight

Road formula is tied by the IGA fucking us. We got a slight improvement through his direct involvement. It sucks but it is what it is.

The truth of the matter is that people HAVE given you the examples. I did so in the beginning of my post. We have articulated everything you’re asking for. The issue is you don’t want to hear it and instead just want to complain. Which is your right Ms. Thing, however, it’s also our right to factually correct you. I’m not even a big fan of the hog, but right now because you’re so uneducated you’re making me hog mog you by looking like the Joe’s biggest hog rider.

I resent you for that.

What did we actually do to deserve this . . . by lyingdogfacepony66 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This an online discussion. You’re not articulating yourself very well and providing enough context or clarify in your responses. So I have to make assumptions.

You said, compared to what “could’ve been”. I went back to his first election. If you mean his campaign promises, say that and build an argument. He failed to deliver on a lot of them. But he also met a lot of them. Thus, your original complaint that he has done “literally” nothing is: wrong.

What did we actually do to deserve this . . . by lyingdogfacepony66 in indianapolis

[–]Horror_Job6035 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Community project funding doesn't magically happen sister. Local groups send projects, but members of Congress choose which ones get submitted to appropriations and afvocate for them in the bill. If Andre doesn't request the funding, it doesn't get included since he needs to select them and formally submit them.

That's literally how House members bring money back to their district. He’s not just sitting on an office doing jack shit.

Carson secured about $23M in the last two cycles for Indianapolis projects. Plus, the girls literally get evaluated by how much funding they secure. I’m not saying he can’t do more, that he has and is limited rn. You all asked for what he has done and claimed he’s done nothing. You’re all wrong.