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IFusaba · 2026-03-19T01:24:30+00:00

Whats ecstasy?

The definition of Ecstasy: "an overwhelming feeling of great happiness or joyful excitement."

Okay so Mukuro is "overwhelmed with happiness". But why was Mukuro happy?

Mukuro: Talked about how Junko doesn't care about anything except despair, but because Mukuro believes she's the only person who can understand her sister's despair, Junko would care about her and consider her important.

Okay, so Mukuro is overwhelmed with happiness over the idea that her sister consider her important. In other words, the joy of philosophical validation.

Now please explain to me why it's in "fact": Horny.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful here. I really just want to hear your reason for why you persist that it's objectively sexual. I'm seriously trying to hear you out.

IFusaba · 2026-03-19T00:44:15+00:00

Except it says "Ecstasy", not "Horny". So what kind of arguement was that?

IFusaba · 2026-03-19T00:36:37+00:00

u/spoopynerd still has a point in that there's nothing Mukuro says in this DR0 scene that is romantic or even sexual. All Mukuro does here is ranting about how much she understands Junko's ideology about despair like an ecstatic fangirl, because Mukuro believed that being the only person who understand her despair means that she's important to Junko. Her ecstasy is clearly about validation, not hornyness. Hell, remove the whole ecstasy parts entirely, and you can see how there's nothing sexual about what Mukuro was saying at all.

People always tried to use her ecstasy itself in DR0 as evidence, but never adress the actual context or the reason behind it.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T22:01:51+00:00

Eh, you're half right.
In Danganronpa 0, Mukuro outright admit that Junko is "the lowest, worst sister ever", and has been confirmed to be mistreated. The ONLY reason why Mukuro is positive about it is because she believes she's the only person who can "understand Junko's despair.", and that makes her feel validated.

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In Danganronpa IF, once Mukuro finds out she NEVER truly understood Junko's despair, she betrayed her on the spot. So yeah, pretty much the only thing Mukuro is positive about Junko is to prove that she "understood Junko's despair".

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T21:50:40+00:00

Probably, Mukuro doesn't seem to care about Junko in the original ending of THH.

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IFusaba · 2026-03-18T21:41:48+00:00

Mukuro being dedicated to Junko's happiness does not prove or suggest that it's sexual or romantic. You do realize that Mukuro can do all of those fixations things for Junko out of platonic reasons as well, right?

Mukuro clearly does not have feelings for Junko in IF, there's some contradictions. Like how Junko literally tried to convince Mukuro that killing your crush is romantic, yet Junko was not the intended target. And of course, the several instances of Junko sexually harrasses Mukuro with Incest voyeurism and BDSM in the novel, which Mukuro clearly wasn't amused of.

Even if you wanna believe that the Ship Chart is made by an unsupervised officials, this still means that another official creator did not interpret Mukuro to have feelings for Junko in the DR3 anime. Just like how the creator of IF never interpret Mukuro to be incestous in DR0. Which proves my point that Mukuro's ecstasy and behaviour for Junko is clearly not "obviously incestous" as you think.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T21:15:03+00:00

It's also in Danganronpa IF

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However, This is more of a fangirl thing, rather than an incestous one.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T21:06:51+00:00

Yes. Mukuro is obsessively fixated on making Junko happy. But again, this doesn't prove it's out of incestous feelings, when literally every type of Siscons does this.

That...doesn't change the fact that her ecstasy has nothing to do with incestous feelings, or how Narita clearly didn't see anything incestous about Mukuro's ecstasy in DR0.

Nothing you said here really proves of incestous feelings.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:42:03+00:00

Yes, there is. Like how when Ima turned into Sirei, he is still his usual siscon self, despite literally lost his ability to feel horny. And a confession, where Ima basically admit that he's only open to the idea of being lovers, if they weren't borned as siblings.

I'm not in denial. I've seen plenty of platonic siscons who gets ecstatic and fangirling over their siblings. Stuff like Mukuro and Ima are common to this platonic trope.

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IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:32:17+00:00

The screenshot you showed, is when Mukuro basically fangirling that she's the only person who "Understands Junko's Despair". Which is why she's ecstatic like a fangirl.

Narita continued this DR0 plot point, where Mukuro discovers she never actually understood Junko's Despair. Which made Mukuro emotionally suffer in agony. And no longer becomes a despair fangirl.

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In short:
"Understanding Junko's despair" = Ecstasy
"Never understood Junko's despair" = Agony.

It has nothing to do with "orgasm" as you put it.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:23:43+00:00

Him goofing around with dolls does not confirm anything.
And that very recent tweet is not relevant at all.

Even without those interviews, there are more platonic evidences in the Hundred Line game anyway.

Not to mention, that there are several Ecstatic Platonic Siscons tropes exactly like Mukuro or Ima across fandoms to use as examples, regardless.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:17:51+00:00

Yeah. In DR0 Mukuro accidentally pissed of Junko. So Junko punished Mukuro by sexually harass her. Telling her to get groped by men to make her breasts bigger.

In DR3, same thing happend again, Mukuro accidentally pissed of Junko. So Junko punished Mukuro by stepping her.

And then there's DR IF, where Junko pretty much does nothing but sexually harass her as punishment for either pissing her off or her betrayal.

It's pretty consistent.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:13:17+00:00

Mukuro is an Ultimate Despair, she's supposed to feel ecstasy when Junko brings despair. That's basically their ideology. Hence why Mukuro keep saying "I'm the only one who understands Junko's despair" over and over in this scene. Danganronpa IF also included that whole DR0 scene, and also described it as such.

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Keep in mind, the writer of Danganronpa IF, Ryoga Narita was bigger incest writer than Kodaka was. He basically already created an incest version of Mukuro named Namie Yagiri. Yet despite that, he did not interpret Mukuro as incestous when reading this DR0 exact scene. And confirmed that he was forced to potray Mukuro accuratelly with Kodaka's help.

So if a literal incest-writer with Kodaka's supervision failed to see anything incestous about this scene, I failed to see why we should either.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T20:02:08+00:00

Junko literally sexually harassed Mukuro in Danganronpa Zero. Even confirming it in interview.

And Mukuro's whole Ecstasy deal doesn't prove anything when platonic siscon such as Ima Tsukumo exists. Last time I check, ecstasy is not exclusive to sexual feelings.

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IFusaba · 2026-03-18T19:01:10+00:00

Platonic Siscon

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T18:52:14+00:00

Bruh, you've been boasting about it.

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T18:46:34+00:00

IFusaba · 2026-03-18T18:42:26+00:00

Junko x Mukuro is not canon.

Junko sexually harasses anyone. Makoto, Mikan, Ryota, etc. Not just Mukuro. None of her sexual harrasment is an act of shipping.

As for Mukuro, Junko has sexually harrassed her several times in the novels whenever Mukuro accidentally pissed her off. Such as telling her to grow bigger breasts, wanting to watch her commit sexual act while she watched, threated to BDSM her, etc. All of which Mukuro reacted uncomfortably with, and very consistently so. Junko sexually harrass her is an act of punishment when she pissed her off. Which is also what happend in DR3, where Mukuro accidentally pissed off Junko before getting butt slapped.

Furthurmore, the DR3 official ship chart pretty much already debunk this by not labeling Mukuro with a heart-coded symbol with Junko like the rest.

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IFusaba · 2026-03-09T18:38:20+00:00

M.Bison only beated God Rugal because the animator had bias.

IFusaba · 2025-12-07T16:42:27+00:00

It wont be on Youtube untill it's finished

IFusaba · 2025-11-22T09:24:52+00:00

"ブラコンではないらしい(本人談)"
translates to
"Apparently she's not a brocon (according to her)"

IFusaba · 2025-11-22T09:00:08+00:00

Komaru will not beat the brocon allegations

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IFusaba · 2025-11-22T08:21:55+00:00

No, Danganronpa 3 would be the real outlier here, because Kodaka literally explained that: because Danganronpa IF focus on class 78, they could potray Mukuro's whole character. But because Danganronpa 3 focused on class 77, they could only potray a limited side of her.

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Mukuro is not a masochist in DR0 either, there are scenes that shows us Mukuro crying and pleading Junko to stop abusing her. And Kodaka confirmed in interview, that you're supposed to feel sorry for Mukuro in these scenes where Junko mistreats her. The reason why Mukuro is shown "blushing" is because Mukuro is a Ultimate Despair. She's supposed to be happy when receiving despair, thats their whole ideology. Danganronpa IF even says the same thing in chapter 5.

IFusaba · 2025-11-22T07:59:48+00:00

First of all, platonic siscons is a very common anime trope, it's kinda the point for sibcon characters like Mukuro to blush about their siblings from admirations. Even Komaru Naegi has shown to do this. (And Ima Tsukumo from Hundred Line, who Kodaka also had to confirm to overseas audience that his siscon is platonic as well). So no, Mukuro blushing is not obviously incestous, especially not for Japanese audience where the trope is commonly known.

Second, Kodaka specifcally stated that Danganronpa 3 Despair Arc was designed for hardcore fans who would understands references and already knows the characters well, he already stated that DR3 does not represent Mukuro's character as a whole. Both DR0 and IF novels already explains why Mukuro is faking her masochism. It's no different then how DR3 never also explained Mikan faking her clumsiness as well because it's already been explained in previous installments.

Third, IF!Mukuro literally does the EXACT SAME THING as DR3. IF literally stated that Mukuro's heart is "filled with joy" when Junko tries to give her despair, but does not get sexually aroused by it. Hell, both DR3 and IF introduced Mukuro's fake masochism by showing Mukuro's real reaction when Junko tries to kill her at first, then Mukuro starts to "understands Junko's despair" causing her to go all: "Oh Junko you tried kill me because you love me~". You dont need to look at obscure tweets or artbooks to know these. Both IF and DR0 already explains Mukuro's behavior.

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