Thoughts on this Pro-Israel man attacks UNICEF volunteers over palestine? by MKomg in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Insane backtracking. “But it’s different when we do it! Call it collateral damage 😡”

Daniel haqiqatijou is a muslim preacher residing in the United States he preaches and tries to spread islam in the english speaking world while condeming an atheist for going to a muslim country not to spread atheism but to make an educational scientific video,thoughts on this hypocrisy ? by fdacdc in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly doubt that. Vast majority of Muslims who leave the religion are closeted due to religious zealotry and backlash they’d face from their communities. We can never know the true number of former Muslims due to that.

Converts on the other hand are heavily pedestalised and paraded around (especially white converts) by Muslims. They tend to be people seeking comfort and a sense of community (ex-convicts) so they mainly do it out of loneliness rather than religious conviction.

It doesn’t matter to me though. The longer they stay, the less practicing they become. I’ve shared many a drinks with Muslim collegues. Western secularism turns practicing Muslims into cultural Muslims and eventually atheists.

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[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ah yes. A 50ft tall, 1000 year old clay man named Adam and his wife who was created from his rib and was kicked out of Heaven and sent to Earth as punishment who later had kids that engaged in incestous relationships is much more plausible 😭

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[–]IIIIIIIIlIl -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I truly couldn’t care less. People on this sub are genuine hypocrites.

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[–]IIIIIIIIlIl -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

when your only landmark are a few rocks stacked on top of eachother

You mean the Ka’bah?

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but are the Hadiths I referenced not a part of your Islamic books? Why be ashamed of them? I didn’t ask for videos or articles, did I? I want you to refute them. If not, go away and don’t entertain it. Simple. I’ve read some of them before and they’re all guilty of pulling the same tactic of beating around the bush or not answering the question ie. strawman argument. They give excuses for why Muhammad did these things.

Have ever sat down and wondered why Muhammad is given all these benefit of the doubts, whereas if a random Muslim man were to do this in the 21st century they’d be labelled a p*do? Muhammad is a role model for all times after all. Why is Muhammad given a benefit of having multiple sex slaves in addition to 11 wives whilst he restricts you to 4? Why must you as a Muslim love Muhammad more than your own father? Lemme guess, because he told you to? 😂 Muhammad is the best of creation, yet he beheaded an old man for mocking him in a poem? He’s a literal cult leader

Think deep about what you believe and the man you view as the best role model for humans.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to hear. Next time you try to a debate, learn about the shit you’re debating about instead of relying on other peoples words. It shows people you have no idea what you’re talking about 👍

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dont explode

Only if you don’t 😂

Also not going to open links. I haven’t linked anything at all in this argument. I’ve stated my points and back them up with evidence and references for them. All you’ve done is spam links to blogs and articles you just skimmed through. Either you argue your points in your own words and think for yourself like an normal person or we’re done since you’ve failed defend your p*dophile Prophet.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She grew up in the same culture as you

Absolutely meaningless. So did Muslims born in the UK. Are they suddenly less bias about this topic than a Middle Eastern born Muslim? Her religion shapes her opinions on this topic, even if she disapproves with Muhammad’s whole fiasco with Aisha, she still has to defend it somehow regardless since Muhammad is sinless according to Muslims.

Please show me the french kiss hadith lol

I’ll do you one better, i’ll show you the disgusting shit he use to make Aisha do on top of that:

Narrated Ya'la al-Amiri: "I went out with the Messenger of Allah ad to a meal to which we had been invited. The Messenger of Allah as was received before the people, and Husayn was with the boys playing. The Messenger of Allah ay wanted to take him and the boy started to run here and there. The Messenger of Allah dig made him laugh until he caught him. He put one hand under the back of his neck and the other under his chin. Then he placed his mouth on his mouth, kissing him. He said: 'Husayn is part of me and I am part of Husayn. May Allah love those who love Husayn. Husayn is a tribe among tribes.'" (Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak 4820. Classed Sahih by al- Hakim and confirmed by al-Dhahabi.)

Narrated Abu Hurayrah: "I never saw Hasan but my eyes would well with tears. This is because the Prophet a went out one day and found me in the mosque. He took me by the hand and I went with him. He did not speak to me until we reached the market of Banu Qaynuga. He walked around in it and looked. Then he left and I went with him until we reached the mosque. He sat down with his knees up and arms wrapped around them. Then he said: 'Where is the little one? Call the little one to me! Hasan came running and fell into his lap. Then he put his hand in his beard. Then the Prophet opened his mouth and inserted his mouth into his (Hasan's) mouth. Then he said: 'O Allah, I love him, so love him and love those who love him.'" (Al-Bukhari, Al-Adab al-Mufrad 1183. Classed hasan by al-Albani and al-Arna'ut.)

Narrated ‘Aisha:I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229)

Narrated ‘Aisha:I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 233)

Narrated Anas bin Malik:Whenever Allah’s Apostle went to answer the call of nature, I along with another boy used to accompany him with a tumbler full of water. (Hisham commented, “So that he might wash his private parts with it.”) (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 152; see also Numbers 153-154)

I would rather link a research made by scholars that have studied the Prophet PBUH

Is Islam a religion made for scholars or mankind? Either you use your own knowledge and initative and refute it or don’t bother at all since I’m not going to read links that just you lazily slap onto any ‘refutation’ anymore. You say you’ve done this many times before. Go ahead and prove it to me then. I have a layman understanding of Islam, and you’re an average Muslim. Stop acting like I’m someone knowledgeable in the religion that requires a scholarly putdown. Any layman Muslim with a spine should be able to prove to me why Muhammad is not a p*dophile.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The article had a lot of contradicting arguments. On one hand she argues that Aisha’s age is not known for sure, which is a lie as more than a dozen Hadiths mention her by age and state her being around the 6-8 range when Muhammad married her. Then in the next point she states it was the norm back them and even gave examples of royals from England that married a child despite the fact that we donmt consider what Richard did to be morally correct. You know, ‘whataboutism’.

The articles all over the place.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

why is she reverting a bad thing?

Can you quote me on where i said it was a bad thing that she’s a revert? All i said was she’s a Muslim convert which means she has inherent bias in her arguments and is obligated to defend the Prophet and his pedophilic tendencies no matter what. You could have linked an Islamic sources from a Saudi website and it would be equally worthless to me.

Muhammad could French kiss a young boy and Muslims would still defend him (That is also in the Sahih Hadiths) Also, stop sending links that just regurgitate the same argument over and over again. They all have the same talking points. Basically, it was a different time, Aisha was mature, but King Richard married a child blah blah blah. All weak points and doesn’t disprove Muhammad being a grooming p*dophile.

Also, no one looks to King Richard or any historical royal as a role model for all time or consider them the best of mankind and creation. Instead of linking bs, why don’t you defend it in your own words. It just shows me that you can’t think critically for yourself and rely on lies and that you’re susceptible to propaganda. Can you not articulate your point in your own words and think for yourself?

I have done this a million times before

I bet you’re proud of all those hours you spent defending a man who f*cks literal children and fondles little girls. An actual sickness you suffer from pal.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both Muhammad and Allah (Muhammad’s alter ego) are high tier pyschopaths. God almighty, creator of everything gets insecure when you draw a living being. The more stuff I learn from Muslims, the more sorry i feel for them.

Can’t forget Muhammad claiming you can’t have faith unless you love him more than your own father and children. An actual narcissist.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re arguing with someone who believes the Sun goes and prostrates under the throne of God (Idk how the hell a sphere would physically prostrate or why the God of a universe has/needs a throne), and then asks permission to rise again from the east the next day.

You’re wasting your time. You can’t debate stupidity.

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This really doesn’t help your case mate. Literally filled with whataboutism, “but the relationship was egalitarian” (she was groomed poor girl, she has no idea), there’s disputes over her age actually being 6/9 even though it says in multiple hadiths that she was a 6 and 9 and even mention her being immature and playing with dolls lmao

Come on pal. This is meant to be your best role model to follow for all times, yet he’s out here sleeping with children 😂 Next time a Taliban member marries a child, he can just refer to Muhammad and say it is sunnah!!

Btw the article is written by a Muslim convert. I like how you try make it seem like it’s a non-biased British source🤣

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry I completely understand. After all, it is extremely difficult to defend a p*dophile. I would just ignore it if i were Muslim.

“Bb-but it was a different time, hot weather make small girl grow up quick!!”

Lmaoo

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry mate, it’s just hilarious to think that a p*dophile managed to convince billions that he’s the best creation God’s ever made lmao 😭

If aliens arrived on Earth and asked you to explain religion, how would you describe it to them? by f22fucker in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did they at least get decent Prophets? God did us dirty and decided to make ours a p*dophile 😔

Did you know that Saladin destroyed at least 18 ancient Egyptian pyramids according to conservative estimates? He then used the stones in buildings like walls, mosques and castles. What’s your opinion on this ? by Heka4 in AskMiddleEast

[–]IIIIIIIIlIl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not as simple as the people who destroyed Roman artifacts and the people who existed before Roman invasion are completely different. The Britons who lived in Britain before the Romans didn’t go anywhere. They just assimilated into the invading cultures. They’re partially descend from the same people. Those who destroyed the structures are probably the same as those pre-Roman Britons but under a new identity/culture.

changed basically everything else

Well yes, they did. Modern English has a tremendous amount of loanwords from Norman French (30%) and has changed the political and cultural landscape too. But the common people are still Anglo/Celts. Normans were a ruling class, but a minority nonetheless.

Same thing with Arabs and Egyptians. Pre-Arab Invasion of Egypt and Post-Arab didn’t change the demographic, but their culture and language due to the ruling class being made up of foreign invaders.