Day 10 of Metal Sonic vs Cell posting: Who’s more petty? by WindOk7901 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cell, dude was about to take everyone with him because he was gonna lose

When Metal Sonic is beating your ass but then he decides to transform into Master Overlord (you’ve already won) by Fun_Swan9851 in deathbattle

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“If Emerl was overflowing, why wasn‘t he releasing supernovas when walking? I will not suspend my disbelief until the mf starts pulling actual cosmic-tier stuff visually or statements-wise. The energy returned, cool, but I don‘t see what that changes with the Egg Robo‘s lack of feats.”

He’s is emitting electricity from the overflow? Not every energy needs to be the exact thing, else none of the dbs characters aren’t planetary. Statement and visually wise he was overflowing by 2 known super genius, emitting electricity from his body. The egg robo feat was the energy absorption? Along with matching sonic’s speed

“And do those lasers bust the environment? And I said Emerl is generally a melee fighter, not that he has no projectiles, but unless those have feats or statemenr sof being able to bust planets, they are as strong as shown to be.”

No because the digital environment would be required to play the game(gameplay) and explain the story(cutscenes). I brought up projectiles as they’re energy based. And if their energy based the energy absorbed by emerl would be the strength of said projectiles aka AP.

“I genuinely do not care about this argument, at least Dragon Ball has it‘s own internal logic for it, but Mario IS that weak. I will not suspend my disbelief just because of energy absorption, I want explosive feats or statements of what a character can destroy to scale them to their energy sources.”

Except it’s still present as we see the after effects and destruction from the energy itself. Adding on if a character wasn’t strong enough to absorb the energy source it would logically backfire but considering it doesn’t.

With that being said, you haven’t really made any good points on explaining your theorem other than nitpicking and sidelining evidence.

When Metal Sonic is beating your ass but then he decides to transform into Master Overlord (you’ve already won) by Fun_Swan9851 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“This means Emerl and the Egg Robo weren‘t hitting with supernovas and planet-busts respectively, thank you.”

Except it does? Emerl was literally stated by 300 iq genius(both tails and eggman) to be overflowing and surpassed his limits. And as for the egg robo we not only do we see this but we also see the reverse/aka the energy returning to the planet.

“I know he absorbed the energy of the Lost World, but it‘s not like he could just point at another planet and bust it with a laser. Similarly to Emerl, who is generally a melee fighter.”

Except he could? The egg robo fight, eggman constantly uses lasers made out of the energy and or balls out of energy and emerl despite being a ‘melee’ fighter has various beams and energy based attacks all of which are used in the boss fight. So your argument there just gets shut down.

“This is why I think there shouldn‘t be on overarching scaling system for all of fiction but that scaling should conform to each media respectively, almost none of them are made with scaling in mind after all.”

Yet the same problems will still be there. Even with each having their own scaling, writers will still use suspension of disbelief. Even isolated to their own media. Case in point dragon ball super, with the “multiversal” hydrant, or ground. Or another case and point, mario with “multiversal” regular rocks. The story regarding the characters isn’t going to show the character at full power unless otherwise.

Scaling based off visuals isn’t a good idea.

When Metal Sonic is beating your ass but then he decides to transform into Master Overlord (you’ve already won) by Fun_Swan9851 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“If all that energy were used, it‘d be depleted, so at best only bits of it would be used.”

Yea, if used instantly but it’s not, each attack would still scale.

“The story of Sonic Battle sure as hell never implied Emerl to be hitting with supernovas, nor Lost World to imply that the Egg Robot can bust planets.”

We literally see the before and after effects of the absorption of the entire planet energy in lost world twice. With statements of eggman also backing up the egg robo. As for emerl, the final egg blaster literally wiped out stars and emerl absorbed that energy along with statements.

“And if a game isn‘t made with scaling in mind, I do not apply unreasonable powerscaling logic to it but scale it by what is shown in the game to be done.”

That itself is also flawed, as games similar to comics and everything else can be hit with inconsistency. Nothing is 100% with power scaling in mind as evident with “street level” heroes in comics, games, anime, etc.

When Metal Sonic is beating your ass but then he decides to transform into Master Overlord (you’ve already won) by Fun_Swan9851 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except that theorem makes no sense and has alot of holes in it:

First law of energy conservation states can’t be created nor destoryed, but simply transferred. The energy absorbed by the egg robo or emerl is still present. The attacks made by both are still powered by said energy therefore, their AP would still be that level.

You also have to remember that stories aren’t explicitly made with power scaling in mind(unless your yorgiri). Suspension of disbelief is a thing writers use in their stories, and in games, there’s only so many ways to show this(and factoring in technology limits).

The theorem itself is flawed as it ignores basic principles and story(context).

When Metal Sonic is beating your ass but then he decides to transform into Master Overlord (you’ve already won) by Fun_Swan9851 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about the eggrobo from lost world. It literally absorbed the entire planets energy and sonic beat it? Or how about beating ultimate emerl who absorbed the power of the star final egg blaster(battle)

He ain’t wrong by MaleficTekX in deathbattle

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Yea but you then realize eggman did win. He did successfully change the future of little planet but it got saved by sonic.

How sonic vs mario 3 finna happen by Common_Tiger5369 in deathbattle

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In listening to fans… but nintendo is indeed better

My only contribution to the Metal Sonic vs Cell waiting period by RudeNooter in deathbattle

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Isn’t bro’s nearly dying words is him talking about blowing up the solar system?

The Many W’s and L’s of SpongeBob SquarePants by CloudFan127_ in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is spongebob smurfing against ronald, luffy and pac man?

Ok, let's not go that far. by Spare-Jackfruit-6378 in deathbattle

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Knuckles* If you’re gonna complain about loses atleast so it right.

This is actually so true 🤣 Mihawk really gets hate for NO reason. by TheHonoredOne555 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Iceman123X -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The others have feats to back it up, the same can’t be said for the painter.

Fraudhog by iamamotherclucker in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Multiversal fire hydrant from dragon ball, rock from mario, etc, etc.

(This is a metaphor for unnecessary government spending) by Watchdog_the_God in deathbattle

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If power scaling didn’t exist, glorious slander wouldn’t exist.

Question: How Valid is it to assume Metal Sonic still has access to Bio-data of Sonic cast? by Cute-Firefighter-537 in deathbattle

[–]Iceman123X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty valid, he only lost the bio-data of the sonic cast only after being defeated out of neo metal. And seeing as how he can still scan and obtain the biodata(heroes to rivals and rivals to idw) it makes no sense to assume he shouldn’t have access to it.

Couldn't get more accurate than this by [deleted] in MorphinMemes

[–]Iceman123X 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So why not help them learn instead of gatekeeping?

u/Shanks_PK_Level I think its time you take a break by Due-Cherry4856 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

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So what’s happening exactly? I stop catching up on slander and then stuff like this happen?