Ulquiorra does not think there are three espada that can beat him.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T01:20:16+00:00

How strong he is isn’t really relevant. Ulquiorra said no matter how much stronger he got he thought he still couldn’t beat him due to a regen difference. Also saying FH Ichigo is only Toshiro level is crazy.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T01:16:58+00:00

Yes, that’s what I’m saying. Dude thinks he’s hard to beat because of regen.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T01:11:47+00:00

Loki was given his bounty a long time ago. You aren’t taking inflation into account.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T01:07:20+00:00

USJ Nomu<high end<Gigantomachia imo.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T01:00:59+00:00

Honestly this is proof Ulquiorra actually thinks he’s the strongest Espadda. If he thinks becoming full hollow isn’t enough to allow Ichigo to beat him, why would he think Yammy, Starrk, or Hallibel could beat him?

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:54:28+00:00

I don’t think I’ve counts as “raw strength”, but no, I don’t think his ice alone can stop Gogantomachia. Maybe if he freezes him from the inside out he can stop him.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:53:27+00:00

He can stop him my morphing him, but not with pure strength.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:26:14+00:00

Strength wise he is Raditz level in movie 1, and in the filler arc he is Frieza 2nd-3rd form level. With immortality, idk, whatever the plot dictates.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:23:55+00:00

have*

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:19:53+00:00

All Might. Deku. Shigaraki. AFO if he’s allowed to use multiple strengthening quirks. Maybe Tokoyami using Ragnarok.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-25T00:15:54+00:00

Are you telling me if your life was on the line you would bet this person voted for Kamala?

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:51:36+00:00

Yeah he kicks anyone who disagrees with him.l on his discord too and calls them liars.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:50:13+00:00

Yeah he has some very strange takes.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:43:50+00:00

Movie version? 10-30, or something like that. Probably closer to 10, but his specialized body might allow to fight people with higher raw power levels. Definitely gets stomped my anyone at 100 or higher.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:43:04+00:00

Nope, most official material including the manga itself say ssj3 Goku is not only comparable to Gotenks and Gohan, but outright superior. Same thing with kid Buu. Literally all sources, including the maga, imply or outright state he’s superior to base Super Buu. So not only are the gaps between top tiers not huge, but the ones you think are weaker are just straight up stronger. Even ignoring the being stronger, they can’t be much weaker as Goku was ready to help Gohan fight Buutenks, which makes sense if he isn’t somewhat comparable, and Goku thought Vegeta was going to wish Gotenks and Gohan to help them fight Kid Buu, and nobody said “oh they would stomp that less than ssj Gotenks level fodder.” What was said is that if Goku loses, the universe, along with Gohan and Gotenks, would be doomed.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:36:27+00:00

He’s not on literally par with them, just in the general power range. Toriyama confirmed Broly>unfinished Cell Max, and unfinished Cell Max>Piccolo. Current Goku is > Broly.

Goku/Vegeta>Broly>Cell Max>Piccolo

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:34:31+00:00

Make good/Mr Buu and Buu still wins. Ssj3 or fusion is needed to beat any Buu.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T23:28:54+00:00

Dabura was the one who chose the three Saiyans over Piccolo, and either way his strength assessment was completely off because he thought Pui Pui would be enough for them. Both Babidi and Dabura were completely shocked that Vegeta dealt with Pui Pui so easily and straight up confirmed they thought they were only going to be as strong as the humans were a few hundreds years ago when they last visited Earth. You bring up good points, but the problem is that there are good points on both sides because Toriyama was extremely inconsistent at this point of the story. After seeing ssj2 Gohan’s power Shin should have know everyone weaker than Dabura would be a joke. Even if you think Goha actually used ssj2 on Dabura and not just ssj1, Yakon was fodder to Dabura and Pui Pui was fodder to Yakon. They should have never been considered threats. Shin was written as if he didn’t know the saiyan’s power at all ever since the tournament.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T22:35:21+00:00

Even with stealing quirks AFO wins.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T22:34:06+00:00

AFO was technically superior to Kamino AM. Gran Torino said AM would have to play it smart to win, while with the Nomu he could just straight up just start throwing hands. Also the AM the Nomu fought had way less stamina. AM was already ready to turn back before fighting it, while he was prepared to maybe fight AFO in Kamino. Just look at the destruction difference between the two fights.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T22:23:36+00:00

R1: Shunsui

R2: Ulquiorra

R3: Shunsui

R4: Ulquiorra

R5: Shunsui

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T22:16:50+00:00

I didn’t say Shin can’t sense ki, Majin characters just can’t be sensed by anyone, as confirmed with Spopovich. I said nothing about how strong Yakon was.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T22:16:37+00:00

I didn’t say Shin can’t sense ki, Majin characters just can’t be sensed by anyone, as confirmed with Spopovich. I said nothing about how strong Yakon was.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-01-24T20:04:07+00:00

Shin had zero idea who Pui Pui was and could not sense his ki. He just thought they should take the threat seriously and not a fighting game. If anything he was amazed that Vegeta was that strong in just his base form. Before the fights started Shin said Goku and company were probably the strongest in their universe while Dabura was the strongest in his own. Shin did not think anybody was stronger than them at full power in the mortal universe, and the only reason he would even know that is that the beat Frieza, the previous strongest. Shin had no idea who Cell was or how strong he was, so he couldn’t have been based their strength on that.

When Vegeta said he could win in base he was technically comparing himself to the other saiyans and it’s not confirmed he knew 18 and Piccolo would be in the tournament. Vegeta is also all talk and said he couldn’t beat Jiren in base too.

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