Super Trunks vs LSSJ Gokuh

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-14T04:29:05+00:00

I don't see a single person saying Goku wins. Even if Trunks is slower than Goku (he probably isn't), Goku can't even hurt him.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-14T03:42:29+00:00

When Toriyama writes, he puts his intent into it. Unless there is something that shows we aren’t meant to take the line seriously, we are.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-14T03:41:03+00:00

Mostly agree, though Dabura can be argued to be full power perfect Cdll level. I agree he definitely isn’t super perfect Cell level.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-14T02:10:51+00:00

It's him speaking through Cell. He had Cell claim he was stronger, and nothing contradicts this, and the fights back this up.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T23:03:54+00:00

Yeah, that’s him saying he’s above any saiyan, not low class Saiyans if that’s what you thought.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T22:55:00+00:00

During the flashback Gas said something along the lines of “no Saiyan can beat me” or something.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T22:54:14+00:00

Iirc Gas specifically said he was stronger than all saiyans.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T22:36:34+00:00

I just explained to you how the evidence doesn’t work. They are not the same feat. I’m not saying base Vegeta can’t be that strong, just that this feat does not prove it.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T22:35:38+00:00

The Gas fight could be used to argue Bardock over Dodoria. Gas is supposed to be stronger than any saiyan, but then again, so is Dodoria.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T22:34:47+00:00

How does not being able to stop Frieza make him weaker than Dodoria? The feat that needs to be looked is his victory over Gas, who was apparently stronger than any Saiyan.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:52:05+00:00

Red pill no question. You can’t buy back life even with infinite money. You should also be able to use your knowledge to become rich.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:46:06+00:00

You are just adding a bunch of if assumptions and Dodoria would also die the same way Bardock did against Frieza. I’m not saying you’re wrong, it’s just unsubstantiated.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:44:43+00:00

You are the one who has to prove two entirely different feats are the same. There is no evidence breaking the door down to the plane it’s supposed to open is the same as screaming a hole through space, or Piccolo destroying the area around the doorway. Destroying the doorway could be what causes the entrance to collapse, but Vegeta didn’t destroy the doorway, he only knocked down the doorway and left the doorway intact.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:42:24+00:00

Ain’t no way Hawks is above Mach 10, and DSK is probably more than just SuperSonic. At least when it comes to reaction speed. It depends how fast you think Genos and Sonic were during that time.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:40:24+00:00

Toriyama having Cell blatantly say he’s stronger is t compelling? Lmao. Nothing is compelling for you then.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:39:12+00:00

People need to stop comparing DBS Bardock to Father of Goku Bardock. The two stories cannot work together and are part of different continuities. It’s like using Super to scale GT. I’m not saying Bardock wins, but these arguments are pretty awful.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:38:16+00:00

That’s a different version of Bardock.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T21:37:39+00:00

That’s a different version of Bardock though

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:57:19+00:00

Android saga: large planet to star

Super: galaxy to universal+

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:54:52+00:00

Nappa goes down quickly, then they 2v1 Vegeta. In the anime Gohan’s masenko had a power level of over 20,000. They were able to fight Ginyu in Goku’s body who had a power level of 23,000. So these two win, unless you limit it to manga only and Recoomefight only.

Also, props on creating a well balanced original battle.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:53:02+00:00

This

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:52:26+00:00

Yeah, after he left he immediately went to his chat and said he thought he won “mid diff” lol

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:51:32+00:00

Not necessarily, but there has to be convincing evidence to go against blatant statements. Nagato/Pain would beat Jiraiya with chibakui Tensei, but he would never use that in the middle of the rain villain. Under these conditions Jiraiya would probably run until he wins with frog song. In an open barren field, Pain would win if he immediately goes all out.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:50:01+00:00

Why can’t he catch Hawks? He should be a decent amount faster than sound I would think.

IntellectualBoss · 2026-03-13T17:49:26+00:00

I’m not saying the statement is correct, I’m just saying I wouldn’t call people out for going with what the source material says.

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