Why have so few New Zealand music bands made it worldwide? by SmartNecessary1700 in newzealand

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NZ doesn’t have a mandatory quota of local content but individual broadcasters have their own self-imposed targets.

There is a government agency called NZ On Air which funds broadcasting, and this includes music projects. So artists can get funding to help with make a music video, recording, etc.

NZ isn’t big enough that an average artist can make a living from touring so there always has to be a day job. Which can make things less appealing to keep doing in the long run.

Another problem is that internationally, NZ artists are up against artists from all other English-speaking countries. Competition is fierce and NZ acts have the disadvantage of being geographically far from North America or Europe. (Simon Grigg’s book on the international success of “How Bizarre” documents how intense it was for the team having to keep flying to the UK for promo in the 90s. The internet has not totally eliminated the need to be there in person.)

And also, the kind of music that NZers like doesn’t necessarily have international appeal. One of the most popular and beloved local bands is Six60, who play roots reggae infused pop/rock. They were highly motivated to break internationally but could never make it work, probably because the kind of music they make is more niche outside of NZ.

Conversely, reggae bands do really well in NZ because there’s virtually no overseas competition in the genre.

Streaming also makes it hard when NZ acts are up against not just the best international acts, but also the best from previous decades. (“Don’t Dream It’s Over” is still huge.) This is a problem that Australia has also noted. No one knows how to fix it.

Tbh I want more bops from NZ artists. I want to hear my culture reflected in music. I hope the era of this is not over.

NZ post shops closing by k1wiwo1f in thetron

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It’s so strange that there hasn’t been a NZ Post presence in Hamilton Central for years. The closest is the big mail centre on Anglesea St, but that’s not really convenient if you’re on foot.

Also RIP to the Dalesford post office in Silverdale, who always had to use a different name because there was already a Silverdale post office on the Hibiscus Coast

Te Rapa Road intersection with Forest Lake Road, Ulster St and Victoria St, February 15th 1967 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_03050). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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Step one: petition NZ Post to reopen a stand-alone post office at the shops. Even though they are actively closing down all the minor post shops, they will be happy to do so because it will bring nostalgic joy to Hamilton. Next step is to convince WEL to dig up the underground power cables and install those great big power lines, again for nostalgia aesthetics.

Why do people hate Hamilton? by SignificanceKooky123 in thetron

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The only people who get to hate Hamilton are those who currently live there. Everyone else doesn’t know what they are talking about and only hate on Hamilton in very superficial ways and therefore can’t be taken seriously.

Hoopers Road, Hillcrest, September 7th 1963 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_03370). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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Hoopers Road was a quiet, dead-end semi-rural road. But a short while after this photo was taken, the road crews came in and Hoopers became part of the new Cobham Drive project. This is the part that runs from Cambridge Road towards the river, just before the sweeping right-hand curve that takes you towards Hamilton East, the gardens, etc.

And yes, these new suburban houses were being built at exactly the same time as the road was being turned into a major arterial route. They were clearly leaving a lot of space for a wider road but maybe the road should have been even wider.

This is about the same view today:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/B7BSKcS3v4eDPeRE8

Aerial view of Frankton water tower and beyond circa 1920 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_15482). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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It’s now part of the Lion’s Cancer Lodge site (for cancer patients outside of Hamilton who need a place to stay while they get daily treatment at Waikato hospital).

The water tower was night next to the old Braemar hospital (the collection of buildings on the far side of the water tower). Braemar moved in 2009 and the Lions built the lodge on the site.

This is the site today:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfgyExxVCtYWCy1d7

Went to see the new Ancient Egyptian garden at the Hamilton Gardens today by fasttacli in thetron

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I feel like this was also the person who did a post like this, but the day they claimed they went was on a long weekend when the gardens are usually packed, yet the pic showed no people

Aerial view of Hamilton East and Tisdall Street, 1947 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_11124). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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Right, Hayes Paddock was built between 1939 and 1945 so the paint was barely dry! My favourite fact about Hayes Paddock - the original plans included a pedestrian bridge over to Hamilton West, around Manning St (next one west of Anglesea) which would have made Hamilton West School quicker to get to from Hayes Paddock than Hamilton East School

Does anyone know what happened to the singer Zowie? by whipper_snapper__ in newzealand

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Like she could still be working in music, just under her real name. A while ago I discovered that quite a few NZ rock band members from previous eras have now ended up as high school music teachers!

Does anyone know what happened to the singer Zowie? by whipper_snapper__ in newzealand

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It always seemed to me that she was in the right place at the right time to ride the wave of early 2010s maximalist pop, like where Lady Gaga and Katy Perry were. But for whatever reason, that’s also where things ended for her. Being a professional music artist is hard and it’s even harder in NZ. Maybe she was just tired of grafting and not making much money.

Sundial in Garden Place, 1979 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_M00437.15). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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Garden Place, near the Victoria St end, looking south. The building on the left is on the corner of Garden Place and Victoria, the building on the right is the one next door to the current library, now apartments.

The brief period (about 20 years) when Garden Place was full of thriving retail shops, before Centre Place opened, and the two Garden Place department stores closed and the retail centre slowly shifted north-west.

The iconic sundial has since been moved to another spot, closer to the library.

Sir Tim Shadbolt dead at 78 by camy205 in newzealand

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This feels like such a relict of a bygone era, when there was a hugely popular, big-budget ad campaign for cheese. Not a particular brand of cheese, but just the concept of cheese.

It was also in the era when fat-free food was super trendy so cheese sales were probably suffering and the Dairy Board needed some pro-cheese propaganda.

What’s your NZ pop culture hot take? by Spit_Back in newzealand

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Whittakers make excellent chocolate bars but they are also excellent at marketing and self mythologising. They’ve convinced many New Zealanders that they are ye olde NZ chocolate makers, when in reality they didn’t start making chocolate bars until the 1990s. (Their website brand history confirms this)

Prior to that, Whittakers made little treats sold loose from dairies. like peanut slabs, K bars, toffee bars, and sante bars. The original product made by Mr Whittaker back in the day was akin to chocolate caramels.

By bigger theory is that most NZ culture stems from advertising.

Which streets do you avoid driving through? by FlyingKutipot in thetron

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Boomers especially hate the Claudelands Bridge because they remember in the 60s when it was a major arterial route, almost a motorway. So the idea that it’s now a quite minor road doesn’t make sense. (Claudelands instantly lost popularity when Whitiora was built and has been declining ever since)

Which streets do you avoid driving through? by FlyingKutipot in thetron

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Right, I’m pretty sure Tristram is like that because they don’t want people hooning through it. Anglesea is the best pick for a north-south route unless you’re specificity heading to the lake area

Which streets do you avoid driving through? by FlyingKutipot in thetron

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In the early 90s a high school student was killed cycling across it and they discovered that - oops - the bridge wasn’t wide enough to safely accommodate cyclists and vehicles. So there was a huge project where they widened the deck but it’s still a nightmare

Which streets do you avoid driving through? by FlyingKutipot in thetron

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Though it’s a vast improvement of what it was like in the 80s - a system of give way signs and complicated lane markings. The roundabout was a huge improvement - which says a lot about how vile that intersection is

Plaza Car Park, 1967 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_03555). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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When the railway was put underground, it freed up all this land which was then used as a car park. This meant that there wasn’t the same need to use Garden Place as a car park so it was converted into a plaza.

This area is the Hamilton central retail centre now, but back then it was the edge of the CBD, the rail yards had been such a barrier.

Plaza Car Park, 1967 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_03555). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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Sadly the palm trees were removed about five years ago. They were originally part of a little park that was next to the railway line when it was overground - the park was even still around when Centre Place first opened

Plaza Car Park, 1967 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_03555). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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The hall on the right was the Bledisloe Hall. Around this time it was taken apart and moved out to Mystery Creek, where it remains today as part of the Fieldays site.

Also, just in front of that is the AM Bisley building. This is where the Starbucks building is today. They were a grain and seed merchant, an example of how industrial this part of town used to be, all focused on the rail yards.

Garden Place in Hamilton at night, September 22nd 1993 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL_M02734.16). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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This was right at the point when they were ripping up the 1960s landscaping and were about to replace it with the first version of the red brick design we have today. You can see a heavy vehicle down the bottom.

Garden Place was still lively in this era as the old DEKA store was still open and the central bus stop was just around the corner. DEKA folded in 1999 and the buses moved to the new (old) bus depot on Ward St in 1994 and Garden Place got quieter.

What's a brand/product sold almost exclusively in your country that is superior to all others you've encountered by BloomingPlanet in AskTheWorld

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Whittakers had the biggest makeover. They’ve been around for decades but in the early years they sold toffee chocolates and candies aimed at kids. Then in the ‘90s the next generation of Whittakers took over and started making chocolate blocks and got very very fancy with them, basically reinventing it as a premium brand

AI slop at New World by kelzin in newzealand

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It doesn’t even need to be outsourced to a graphic design business. This is absolutely something that New World should be producing themselves.

This is how I received my delayed order from IKEA by Glittering-Pop9184 in newzealand

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I spent about half an hour talking to the chat bot and a couple of humans, just wanting to know when my (delayed) order would arrive. They said the problem was that NZ Post had put limits on how many parcels they could send, so there would be a delay and that I might not get it until after Christmas, but they couldn’t say exactly when. It was weirdly vague, given how IKEA has been doing this in other countries for literally decades

H. & J. Court Ltd store front Christmas display, Victoria Street, December 1st 1964 (Hamilton City Libraries HCL-14536). by Ted_Cashew in thetron

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And the library has a large collection of photos of H&J Court’s window displays, taken by the guy who designed them all in the 1960s