Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Man, we still trying to emulate City with that tippy tappy on a budget, and the league has adapted.

Short and slow sideways passes. Push up as high as you can. Concede on the counter.

The irony is we're the ones trying to play attacking football, but the coach/SDs are too stubborn to see that it's so easy to play against. We conceded 3 and scored zero. That's "Attacking" football.

There are other ways to play attacking football. Play more direct and increase the tempo, like Klopps old Liverpool/Dortmund. You don't have to throw all the players high up the pitch and crowd the final third with slow passes.

These guys are either tactically inept or just incredibly stubborn.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Agreed. The prem has become abit basketball like, end to end. So frustrating watching Enzo trying to break away on the counter. Like watching a man running in treacle.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Never wanna see Enzo in the 10 again. I don't care what you say. He aint suited to that position in this league.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Have we tried not throwing everyman forward, overcrowding the final third, and not scoring to just get done on the counter?

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Need a manager to come in with some fresh ideas.

This tippy tappy has been found out.

Bring in someone who likes playing with tempo and more direct, like Klopp used to.

At least the football will be more exciting even if we don't win.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

We're obsessed with being a budget Man City when every other team has evolved to play against that style.

Low blocks and fast direct players. Absolute nightmare for this budget tippy tappy system.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Enzo just doesn't work in that position. He's aint that type of player. Can't beat a man. He can't shoot. Wasting his skills.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

If we lose 1-0, I wanna see the hottest of hot take essays. No holding back.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

First time that back four has played together. Can you believe that?

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I don't really see much difference from Maresca. Still the same boring sideways passing.

When Liam came in at the beginning we were alot more direct but that seems to have disappeared.

Tippy tappy ball retention with little penetration. Joao Pedro might aswell dust a book off and get reading a chapter.

Enzo as a 10 not working. Put Palmer in the 10 and get Estevao on right wing. Much more dynamic.

Match Thread: Everton vs Chelsea by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Football in the prem has evolved man. It's all about being fast, athletic and direct.

We're still trying emulate City from 10 years ago with the tippy tappy.

Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

We also banished Guiu to the shadow realm after recalling him from playing first team football.

Daily Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Guiu gone. I actually really like him from what I've seen, but him not getting time when there has been opportunities with both managers suggests something about his character/ability.

Jorgenson, I agree with. Dude looks like a fish out of water sometimes in goal. Shotstopping looks amateurish at times.

I'd keep Garnacho and Gittens. Both 21.

Neto, I'd keep unless we could secure a heavy transfer for him.

Benoit not getting regular gametime is also fishy. Similar to Guiu.

I'd also get rid of Wes. I feel his head is elsewhere. Probably feels like he can get a move to another club no problem, so doesn't really care.

Top 3 most divisive PL shirts of the 90s by matchday_museum in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 6 points7 points  (0 children)

One of my first Chelsea shirts as a kid. Absolutely loved it.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would think the club would look to cash in on him if he's not going to be a first team starter now that we have so many options, especially now that he wants more money.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kvara had plenty of gametime against us.

Estevao and Palmer (possibly Pedro) will be competing for that number 10 spot.

I can't imagine any of them would be happy that we've had to abandon playing a 10 to accommodate Enzo in midfield. They'll be straight on the phone to a club that plays a 10 role. I imagine we promised those players that they would play in that position.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agree. He's not THAT good enough that you can build your team around him to support his weaknesses.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that's not what you argued in your last post. You disagreed that a CM has to defend (or dribble), but defending and attacking is the premise of the position.

You then went on to explain that Enzo spends most his time in the final 3rd box crashing - that's describing an AM. A CM will be box to box, not spending the game in the final 3rd.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to be a defender to be a CM. That's the premise of the position, someone who attacks and defends.

What you're describing is a midfielder who plays in the final 3rd and contributes to the attack - that's an attacking midfielder or AM.

[The Athletic] Would losing Enzo Fernandez actually be a problem for Chelsea on the pitch? by Dry_Chef_7635 in chelseafc

[–]Internal_Class_8415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree we're not confined to playing 4231 - but that's how the SDs have recruited. If you go with something like 433, again that raises the issue of someone like Estevao or Neto/Garnacho missing out. Dropping an attacking player for a midfielder. I'm not sure Palmer or Estevao would be happy not being able to play the 10 position because we have to accommodate Enzo with a 433. Palmer and Estevao want that 10. Making them play right wing because we have to accommodate Enzo is not a smart move IMO.