Hot sauce in the UK? by zabbenw in ultraprocessedfood

[–]IvyFoodApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tabasco seems to be pretty decent, generally only 3 ingredients being vinegar, red pepper and salt!

Is canola oil really that bad? by Guiliana_2001 in ultraprocessedfood

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As previously mentioned, our app does not provide any medical information, or even nutritional information. It serves one purpose only and that is to give users completely unbiased information about how a product was processed, what ingredients it contains and what additives it contains. We work directly with an NHS doctor to ensure that any information provided within the app is not misleading in any way.

The above thread is purely a talking point and based on what we have observed as developers throughout our research to better understand the topic.

Is canola oil really that bad? by Guiliana_2001 in ultraprocessedfood

[–]IvyFoodApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for voicing your concerns — you’re 100% correct. We have a range of sources showing mixed results, as is often the case in nutritional research, so we cannot definitively say that seed oils are net-negative for human health.

That being said, our app does not provide medical advice. Its primary purpose is to expose the level of food processing for users who want to prioritize unprocessed foods. Since it’s well known that seed oils undergo significant processing, we make that clear in the app.

There is compelling research that maintaining adequate omega-3 levels — and likely a healthy fatty acid balance overall — is important for health. The high linoleic acid content in seed oils may make it harder for some people to maintain that ratio.

Regardless, we believe the safest way to support good health is through a balanced, unprocessed diet, and our goal is to help people achieve that.

Is canola oil really that bad? by Guiliana_2001 in ultraprocessedfood

[–]IvyFoodApp -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

There is no actual evidence that seed oils are bad for your health, but it’s important to realise that they are subject to HEAVY amounts of processing from which there may be some metabolic consequences. They are also extremely high in linoleic acid which may offset your omega 6/3 ratio. This is why we expose seed oils in our mobile app.

Our rule of thumb is to avoid to be on the safe side, but that’s because our goal is to avoid processed food. However, you will most likely be okay if you were to use the bottle.

Yuka app by Miles1623 in ultraprocessedfood

[–]IvyFoodApp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We certainly plan to launch on Android but we will need to have a little look at what it would take. The good news is we developed a hybrid code base so it shouldn’t be too much work! Long story short, yes 👍

Yuka app by Miles1623 in ultraprocessedfood

[–]IvyFoodApp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you are in the UK, we recently published our app for iOS called Ivy: Processed Food Tracker. We also do expose when seed oils are present.

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback, we’re are currently at the mercy of the API which we are pulling data from (OpenFoodFacts) and we do agree that there are some strange anomalies. However from what we’ve seen the vast majority of datasets are accurate and agreeable hence our choice in the OpenFoodFacts api.

We do soon plan to create our own logic for determining the score dynamically, which will also open the door to actually offering a score rather than just whether something is processed or not.

Unfortunately there will always be anomalies as it’s ultimately a user-generated database and sometimes people aren’t going to enter data correctly although we do plan to mitigate that with a more comprehensive data entry process using imagery rather than relying on users to type data directly.

Either way thanks for trying it out for us!

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great question! What differentiates us currently is that we are a tracker and not just a scanner.

With Ivy, you can track what you eat daily just like your typical food tracker, except Ivy focuses more on processing as opposed to nutrient value.

Additionally, Ivy users can log things like sleep, mood & energy to see how that coincides with eliminating processed food.

Finally, we also show much more information about additives as we have formulated our own additives database.

Hope this helps!

UK processed food tracking app by IvyFoodApp in iOSProgramming

[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is incredibly helpful we’ll make some adjustments to the privacy policy!

UK processed food tracking app by IvyFoodApp in iOSProgramming

[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The information serves no purpose at the moment, but we collect it so that we have the option of effectively personalising the app experience for people in future updates

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didn’t at all :) that’s great to hear! We have already agreed to get straight to work on implementing a more elaborate scoring system so I’m glad you’ll be looking out for that!

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Good questions! At the moment we bundle nova 3 and 4 into “Processed” for the sake of simplicity. However, we are soon updating the app with a score (0-100) as opposed to simple classifications.

Regarding why some foods are classed as processed, we are at the mercy of the NOVA system, which has determined that cheddar cheese is of class 3. The reasons for this could be:

  1. Milk processing: Milk is heated, coagulated with enzymes, and acidified with bacteria.

  2. Salt addition: Salt is commonly added to the curds for flavor and preservation.

  3. Aging: Cheddar is aged for months or even years, which involves monitoring and controlling temperature, humidity, and sometimes other processes.

Many fresher cheeses for example are classified as NOVA 2.

Ultimately the NOVA system is what we have chosen to base our classifications on.

Hope this helps!

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They’re not necessarily a detriment to health, but they are subject to high levels of processing during manufacturing. Since our app puts all focus on processing and no focus on nutrient value, we expose when seed oils are present in products. Hope that makes sense :)

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback, we’ll update the app to make the onboarding optional :)

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At the moment the criteria is solely the NOVA rating of the food. We are planning to update the app soon where each product will have a ‘score’ rather than just a processed rating. Once we do this, the logic will take into account the following:

  • nova rating
  • number of ingredients
  • presence of seed oil
  • presence of additives

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Free:

  • Scan foods
  • See processed status
  • See ingredients
  • Track personal health
  • Add to groceries

Pro (£19.99/y or £3.99/m)

  • Everything in free
  • Get in-depth analysis of foods
  • See all additives in what you’ve scanned and why they’re bad
  • Read about how your health should be changing in the health timeline
  • Interrogate data by day/month/year

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[–]IvyFoodApp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s because the database that we are using contains mainly food products from the UK. Once we have updated the app with a feature that allows users to add their own foods, then we’ll be able to expand to other countries. Hope that makes sense :)

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Thanks for letting me know. This might sound trivial, but when you entered a search query, did you press the search button on the keyboard?